Posted: 9/27/2014 11:19 AM
Post subject: Hourglass to TAS Touhou?
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Does Hourglass work for Touhou games? Just wondering.
Posted: 9/27/2014 11:54 AM
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Yes! If you want to see a TAS in Hourglass of any of the ZUN Touhou shmups, go to nicovideo. I think I have seen a TAS of every single one by now.
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Posted: 9/28/2014 5:56 PM
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Yeah, I've seen many of them, and it's quite amazing. Umh, does it only work for some games? I tried with Touhou 8 and I didn't even get past the loading lol ("The game crashed...", and many times. With Multithreading Allow it just crashes a bit later. And yeah, I would like to make a full TAS. RNG Powerups and defeat bosses ASAP.) EDIT: Oh and yeah, putting "Wrap" makes Windows crash. :D EDIT2: I, ofc, have already trying to put Disable on Multithreading and already Disabled DirectSound Creation. It still crashes 1/6 of the times when I load state. And I load state very oftenly.
Posted: 9/28/2014 11:21 PM
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https://code.google.com/p/hourglass-win32/wiki/CompatibilityList lists recommended settings for TASing Perfect Cherry Blossom. I'd suggest you get that working first, and then see if the same settings work for other Touhou games.
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Posted: 9/29/2014 1:17 AM
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Touhou only works correctly in Windows XP, so you'd better use a VM. The later games (I believe MoF onwards) also need you to remove the BGM files in order to sync, and you need some trick (that I don't know very well) to save replays. Here are the TAS High Score for each game, by the way.
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Posted: 9/29/2014 2:32 AM
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I don’t think the power ups are RNG by the way… but it’s been a while since I’ve played, I don’t know.
Posted: 9/29/2014 5:54 AM
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ALAKTORN wrote:
I don’t think the power ups are RNG by the way… but it’s been a while since I’ve played, I don’t know.
Yeah, regarding items, there's almost zero RNG. But I myself don't really find Touhou time-attacks very interesting. It's basically using the strongest shotgun, getting full power and point-blanking every boss (since the stage's length is fixed aside from the midbosses). The game is way more interesting to score in tool-assisted runs, like Kopiapoa has been doing.
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Posted: 9/29/2014 6:03 AM
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I'd also be interested in TAS score attacks in non-Touhou shmups.
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Posted: 9/29/2014 12:48 PM
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Thank you guys. What is VM? Sorry for noobness.
Posted: 9/29/2014 3:07 PM
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Virtual Machine, for example DOSBox or VirtualBox.
Posted: 9/30/2014 6:13 AM
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Thank you, I will try when I get home.
Posted: 9/30/2014 6:25 AM
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If you have Windows 7 Professional, Ultimate or Enterprise you can use 'Windows XP Mode' which is a kind of official Windows XP virtual machine. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-AU/windows7/install-and-use-windows-xp-mode-in-windows-7 Disclaimer: I haven't tried it with hourglass. (I actually -should- try it with hourglass... Would be interesting to see if I can do anything!)
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Posted: 10/1/2014 5:52 PM
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gl then~ Oh and yeah, I have 7 ultimate. Thank you Patty, I will go for that.
Posted: 10/4/2014 3:03 PM
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(Sorry for double post) So, I'm back home. I tried the Windows XP Mode, but it doesn't seem to allow 3D Acceleration so I'm in a dead spot =/ I'm trying some other VMs, but I'm not sure I can get a positive result.
Posted: 10/4/2014 3:35 PM
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IIRC 3D is a bit tricky in VirtualBox, you may need to boot the virtual Windows in safe mode and then install the Guest Additions.