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Posted: 12/17/2014 9:12 PM
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Samtastic
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I thought mednafen was one of the most accurate PSX emulators?
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games! Has TASed: Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07 Currently working on: Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
Posted: 12/17/2014 9:20 PM
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TheThrillness
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Some other questions: 1. Is the disc swap actually implemented for movies or just general for normal play? I guess this is for general since the issues say handling movies across multiple discs but making sure. 2. I know this will never be a thing for normal submission but is there anyway to make the disc combining kits work in BizHawk? This would completely remove the need to disc swap. These kits: http://ngemu.com/threads/disc-combining-kits.118402/ I tried it with one game and the cue file I loaded into BizHawk thought it was a TurboGrafx game. :(
Posted: 12/17/2014 9:24 PM
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zeromus
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samlaptop, there is nothing inconsistent with what I said and what you thought thethrillness.1 - it works across movies theoretically, but I havent tested it. it doesnt work with savestates, so youll not be able to tas it. chill for a while, maybe days, maybe weeks. thethrillness.2 - theres no reason bizhawk should know or care whether youve combined a disc, if you've done it properly. if you havent done it properly, mis-detection is one possible result. But bizhawk might be have trouble loading a file that's been stressed this way. I'd have to check the specific file. If you're even considering this, then you're way too impatient and need to go sailing or something in the meantime.
Posted: 12/17/2014 9:40 PM
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dekutony
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Humm... how do I run a PSX game guys?
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Posted: 12/17/2014 9:47 PM
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hegyak
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Kurabupengin wrote:
Humm... how do I run a PSX game guys?
That is incredibly vague. How do you want to run it? With Bizhawk, with Mednafen?
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Posted: 12/17/2014 9:51 PM
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dekutony
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Bizhawk... is that possible?
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Posted: 12/17/2014 10:09 PM
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solarplex
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Kurabupengin wrote:
Bizhawk... is that possible?
That is literally what this whole thread is. Yes you can run psx on bizhawk but only the developer builds, which is the zip file hyperlink on the other page.
Posted: 12/17/2014 10:17 PM
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hegyak
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Kurabupengin wrote:
Bizhawk... is that possible?
It is. For the most part. It's still not fully ready. You will need an SVN Build (as of this post, r8557). The latest Release build (1.9.1) will NOT load PSX games.
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Posted: 12/17/2014 10:27 PM
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dekutony
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So how do I play them then?
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Posted: 12/17/2014 10:44 PM
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scrimpeh
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Kurabupengin wrote:
So how do I play them then?
Download the latest Bizhawk svn build from here (Linked from the previous Page). If you have a CD image in the form of a .bin and .cue file, open the .cue file. If you have a .ccd file, just open that.
Posted: 12/17/2014 11:11 PM
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zeromus
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Next we'll have to hold his hand through installing the firmwares
Posted: 12/17/2014 11:16 PM
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zeromus wrote:
Next we'll have to hold his hand through installing the firmwares
Oh yes, I forgot about that. Kurabupengin, You'll need SCPH1001.bin, the PSX BIOS file. It's copyrighted, so you'll have to google for it. Put that in the \BizHawk\Firmware directory (if it doesn't exist, create it), and you should be good to go.
Posted: 12/17/2014 11:35 PM
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dekutony
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It worked! Thanks, but I have a question though... If you record a movie does the PSX bios records too? BTW, It is accepted to submit a movie using this builds?
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Posted: 12/18/2014 12:44 AM
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zeromus
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to answer your first question: you can spend 1 minute testing that yourself. to answer your second question: no, it is not accepted to submit a movie using these builds. in fact, any movie you make with these builds has a high chance of being broken in future builds.
Posted: 12/18/2014 1:45 AM
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hegyak
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Kurabupengin, I can tell you are using an older version. If you have problems, don't forget to note your Revision (r) number under Help, About with bug reports.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 7:26 AM
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hegyak
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Get r8565 or newer to make this work for you.
zeromus wrote:
fix bug in CUE processing resulting in final sectors of data track in mixed mode disc being kind of messed up
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:15 AM
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TheCoreyBurton
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Despite having the bios (SCPH1001.bin) in the firmware directory, I had to assign a custom location (and still used that copy) before it'd work. I know it's trivial, but hey. Other than that everything seems to run well. Any chance of the higher res / opengl graphic plugins (like Pete's) running in this? It's not a big deal but I'd love to see some of the 3D games and TASs in crystal clear quality rather than nearest neighbor.
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Posted: 12/18/2014 8:42 AM
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zeromus
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there is no chance of any plugins running in this before a time so far in the future that you and I will both be dust. what you call nearest neighbor, i call nearest to exact. It's possible that if you are using a broken firmware, that you'd have to manually set it to make it work. The feedback from the firmware manager is pretty confusing right now, so you might not know thats what happened.
Posted: 12/18/2014 8:48 AM
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Samtastic
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Where is the Mac port of bizhawk with PSX support?
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games! Has TASed: Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07 Currently working on: Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
Posted: 12/18/2014 8:52 AM
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zeromus
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I don't think we make automated builds of that, youll have to wait for sappharad to say something
Posted: 12/18/2014 5:03 PM
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Samtastic
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Tested today's build on Windows. Looks good. Sound hasn't been that crackly running Abe's Exoddus. I think Dooty and I should wait till Bizhawk is able to TAS PSX so we can do 100% run of Exoddus on a better quality emulator than PCSX-RR. I notice the pitch goes up and down a bit though. I assume this will be fixed in later builds.
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games! Has TASed: Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07 Currently working on: Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
Posted: 12/18/2014 5:15 PM
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Samlaptop wrote:
Tested today's build on Windows. Looks good. Sound hasn't been that crackly running Abe's Exoddus. I think Dooty and I should wait till Bizhawk is able to TAS PSX so we can do 100% run of Exoddus on a better quality emulator than PCSX-RR. I notice the pitch goes up and down a bit though. I assume this will be fixed in later builds.
Only the eighth day of adding psx files into BizHawk :) For SURE, it will only get better
Posted: 12/18/2014 5:27 PM
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Samtastic
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So once Bizhawk 2.0 is released, we will be able to submit PSX movies from Bizhawk?
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games! Has TASed: Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty) Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15 Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27 Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07 Currently working on: Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
Posted: 12/18/2014 5:33 PM
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solarplex
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Samlaptop wrote:
So once Bizhawk 2.0 is released, we will be able to submit PSX movies from Bizhawk?
For my initial post, it looks as though 2.0 will be the time to start TASing PSX. But I would still wait until the devs say its good to go. Hegyak started a bug report listing on the Second Post, so be sure to keep an eye out on that as well as my first post for any new additions/updates
Posted: 12/18/2014 7:59 PM
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Please note, that when I said 2.0, I may have been wrong. It may be something else, but The Approved Emulator list will have BizHawk listed for PSX TAS runs. Please, try all kinds of games. Let us know what is good/bad.
When TAS does Quake 1, SDA will declare war. The Prince doth arrive he doth please.
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