Posted: 6/14/2015 2:16 PM
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Post subject: Question about Steam games patching
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Hi, there's this Steam Summer sale going on and I'd like to buy some more games. But I'm a little worried games on Steam are patched so certain glitches I'd like to try out don't work anymore. My question is are the games I would like to buy affected? - Tomb Raider collection (all PC Tomb Raider games) - Ori and the Blind forest - Thief 2 Thanks.
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Posted: 6/14/2015 2:58 PM
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http://store.steampowered.com/steam_refunds/ I'm not sure if this applies to the 'summer sale', but if said glitches aren't on the steam version, I believe you can refund them if you wish. But it has to be within 14 days of purchase and less than 2 hours of gameplay
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Posted: 6/14/2015 7:17 PM
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They will refund basically anything for any reason whatsoever, but they haven't (perhaps understandably) not divulged what they consider abuse of the refunding system. It's probably safest not to simply buy hundreds of games and ask for refunds for all of them.
Posted: 6/14/2015 7:42 PM
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I figured as much. I bought The Cave a few days ago, a 2D platformer (just the genre I really like) and decided to watch speedruns only after I finished it. I was disappointed to find out a major glitch that allowed a whole level to be skipped was patched. If I ever were to get back into speedrunning and I'm only sitting on a pile of patched steam games, that would be sad. Well, I can still run glitchless then, I suppose. Oh, by the way, I did go for the tomb raider offer. Got all Tomb Raider games on steam now, for 16€. I hope popular bugs such as corner clipping aren't patched.
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Posted: 6/15/2015 11:11 AM
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It's probably worth checking out the speedrun communities or SDA threads for games you're interested in. If I recall correctly, someone made "reverse patcher" for the Borderlands games: as long as you keep Steam offline, you can roll back to any given version and use that. It's possible such tools exist for the games you want to run.
Posted: 6/19/2015 7:57 PM
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Most games on Steam (Like 99% of games) will only offer the latest version with no way to downgrade to a previous version. There's maybe 30 games on Steam currently that will offer an option to go back to a previous version and some of those only let you go to the version before the latest version and not to an even earlier version. Unsure why more companies aren't exploiting the beta feature of Steam for this purpose, does that feature cost them money to use?
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Posted: 6/19/2015 8:16 PM
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Btw, I find it very unlikely that they have fixed the corner bugs and other bugs in the older TR games.
Posted: 6/19/2015 8:19 PM
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franpa wrote:
Unsure why more companies aren't exploiting the beta feature of Steam for this purpose, does that feature cost them money to use?
It takes time for their employees to implement this feature that maybe one customer in 1000 cares about, and time for them to then support the feature when it doesn't work to that 1 customer's satisfaction. The cost/benefit analysis is horrifically slanted against supporting older versions.
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