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Sorry, i don't come here as often as i used to otherwise i would have responded sooner. I don't have a link to any of my runs, but i can send them to you over msn or aim. msn - Culden@hotmail.com AIM - TheRealCulden I should be online today
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Well, I'm not going to do the run..I have better things to do than read through ALL of the posts here to figure out HOW to manipulate battles and stuff. I'm not a big reader, and I'd rather do as LITTLE reading as possible to figure something out. Someone else will have to do the run. Sorry, but after waiting for FOUR days for someone to tell me which pages the information for manipulating battles is on, I don't feel like doing the run anymore. Plus I didn't get an answer. I don't have a lot of patience in the first place, so.. So, sorry, but I can't do the run now, I'm too angry about not getting an answer..
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What, you can't even set aside 15 minutes to read the whole topic? What makes you think you would have the time to make this movie if you have to rely on other people finding some scrap of information on a mere 7-page topic for you?
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Nope, cause it would take me a little longer, considering I wear glasses, and staring at a computer screen trying to read hurts my eyes a bit, so no. Plus I don't have the patience, hope that answers your question. -.- And as stated before, since I got no help really, I'm not doing the run. And I very much doubt anyone can change my mind, sorry. All someone had to do was tell me what pages to look on, but that seemed to be too much trouble for them. So I won't bother with the run. This will be the last time I post/read on this subject, so just drop it. I am.
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Well, since you won't be reading this anymore, it doesn't matter...but isn't that a bit selfish of you to get mad at those of us who are reading this topic because we won't take time out of OUR lives to do something that YOU could do just as quickly? Seriously, you aren't the only person in the world. If you had asked for help on something NEW, perhaps you would have recieved a downpour of help. seriously, that's just so...childish and selfish.
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And I'll say it again: If you don't have the patience to read everything you can about the game, then you probably don't have the patience to make a good movie.
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Kitsune wrote:
Well, I'm not going to do the run..I have better things to do than read through ALL of the posts here to figure out HOW to manipulate battles and stuff. I'm not a big reader, and I'd rather do as LITTLE reading as possible to figure something out. Someone else will have to do the run. Sorry, but after waiting for FOUR days for someone to tell me which pages the information for manipulating battles is on, I don't feel like doing the run anymore. Plus I didn't get an answer. I don't have a lot of patience in the first place, so.. So, sorry, but I can't do the run now, I'm too angry about not getting an answer..
Very immature as others have stated IMO. If you can't take the time to read through some posts (which would take what? A total of two minutes?), don't bother with any movies. You shouldn't blame others for your laziness.
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Well, apparently I didn't make my point clear, did I? Why should I do a run that people want to see, if I'm not going to get any help? What do I get out of it besides a headache? And Insults certainly won't make me change my mind. I got enough Insults in School, so I just don't let them make my actions for me. I may be Immature, but it's never a good thing to grow up too much. I will admit that I have a stubborn streak a mile long. You can say what you want about me, because only my Mate truely knows me. My point is, I asked for help, but didn't receive any, other than an EarthBound run from Culden, which I am greatful for. But he doesn't know how to manipulate battles or anything. I will also admit that I am a little lazy, but I don't feel like ruining my eyes staring at a bright screen, trying to read through all of the posts. I can't afford new glasses right now. My eyes are already bad enough with the glasses I'm wearing. I may consider doing it again in the future. But for now, just lay off, I have enough problems in my life lately, with my low life Father trying to make it so my family has no place to live.
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You got seven pages of help!
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Not to be rude BoMF and HSZZZ, but she seems to be having troubles of her own, and quitting makes sense if she wouldn't be able to put in the effort to get accepted anyways. And if you want it done so bad, you could do it yourselves.. I am the lazy hipocrite
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But I don't want it done so bad!
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OH. Okay then. Have fun with your megaman run and whatnot. :)
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I'll probably consider doing the run again once things in my life stop being such a pain. Just need some time..
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I wish you luck, assuming you work on it, of course :) The fourteenth post on the second page is where Halamantariel first opines on manipulation. The third post on the fourth page contains his conclusion on battle manipulation. Hope that helps planning a little (and maybe greases the wheels a little bit...) :D
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Hehe, thanks much for the information. I'll look those two parts up right now. ;3 THis should be most helpful on making my decision. :3
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Spriteless wrote:
Not to be rude BoMF and HSZZZ, but she seems to be having troubles of her own, and quitting makes sense if she wouldn't be able to put in the effort to get accepted anyways. And if you want it done so bad, you could do it yourselves.. I am the lazy hipocrite
I did not realize that Kitsune was having trouble IRL, so my comments may be a little unjust. I'm not waiting on this movie desperately, either, by the way. I just skim through topics of games I MAY be interested in, and I happened to only read these last couple of posts before replying. Sorry if I offended anyone.
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Don't worry about it a whole lot. I'm still thinking on doing the tas for EarthBound. My Childhood was spent playing that game mostly, well, from age ten anyway, I'm 22 now. ;3 All I know really, is that I've owned the game for at least ten years now, hehe. I've been using some information on the battle manipulation, and finding it rather...Intriguing. Depending on what you do, your Battle Turn could come first, you could SMAAASH!!, or you could do extra Damage. My gosh, I actually manipulated my first battle, got a SMAAASH!!, and Leveled up, but got a 6 offense boost. I never got that much before. Not even in ONE of the higher levels. So, depending on how well I can manipulate, I could end up with a super high Offense for each character. Culden has agreed to help out by doing a new, 100% run, and telling me how to manipulate how things drop hopefully. If Possible, I will get The Sword Of Kings in my tas. But for now, I'm just going to enjoy playing the game through a few times.
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The girl shouldn't need good stats, if you manipulate her pray command.
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That's not exactly true. Speed is an essential stat for Paula. As is PP, since her Psychic Powers tend to cost a bit. And trying to manipulate Prayers could be pretty dangerous, since there are some prayers that can knock your whole party out, put them to sleep, diamondize them, etc. I plan to try and at least have Ness have PSI Paralysis before facing Mondo Mole if I do a run. Mondo Mole in the Happy Happy Village Cave is a real pain in the rear, cause it has high Attack Power. But if I can paralyze the bugger, he won't last very long. Plus, I plan for Paula to at least PSI Shield Sigma, seeing as how that will protect the Party from PSI Attacks in later battles. There is a lot of planning to be put into an EarthBound run, considering how long the game is, and how hard it would be to speed run. Ness would definately be the heaviest hitter either way in the run, considering you can manipulate levels to increase his attack power.
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If you manipulate the enemies into either missing you altogether or using non-damaging attacks, you won't need PSI Shield at all.
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Manipulating that in later battles though, is another story. After all of the aliens invade Onett, you run into at least one Ghost of Starman each fight most of the time. At least I think it's Ghost of Starman, I'm sure of it.. They use PSI StarStorm. And anyone who's played the game knows that PSI can devestate your party. I plan to fight every battle I get into, so that my Levels should be fairly decent upon reaching Giygas. And if Manipulating strong or SMAAASH!! attacks proves useful, it will speed things up quite a bit. So now you know what to expect if I do the run. ;3
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Ah, yes, Ghost of Starman. How I hate thee. Some other things you may want to watch out for (or avoid altogether) would be the various trees, spheres, orbs, and power robots that explode/burst into flames when defeated. They can all do pretty hefty damage, so it may be worth the time to just avoid fighting them.
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Indeed. Or just try to run away from them if I meet up with em. Of course, if I have PSI Lifeup, they won't be much of a problem. Would just have to keep an eye on the Psychic Points while using it. I'll probably rely heavily on PSI Attacks if I do the run, seeing as how I don't plan to buy them better weapons. Maybe just Armor. Buying new weapons would just be a waste of time with Paula, seeing as how her Psychic Attacks do more damage. Well, if you'll excuse me now, I'm going to go take a shower, hehe. ;3
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It was already proven that the enemies you fight can be manipulated. You should never have to fight anything that poses a serious threat. For that matter I STRONGLY believe that avoiding almost all fights is the best way to approach this run. Weapons & Armor are expensive so the best way work around that would be to fight the occasional enemy that drops something worthwhile and then sell it. In the previous WIP there were a few fights with dogs early on. In the end I very much doubt they will have done anything for him. He could have gotten more exp simply by fighting 2 required fights 2 or 3 minutes from where he was. Required fights put you on a very decent level to finish the game. You need to worry more about getting fast money (there should be NO, NONE, ZERO, NOTTA power leveling) than leveling up. I know for a fact that you can complete the game in the lowest level possible having done so myself. Money was my main problem. So any fight you decide to fight should consider the following: How much damage will you take (ideally none) How much money do the enemies yield How many turns will the fight take (More than 2 and I say it's too long) What items do they drop How much can said items be sold for Ideally I think you want to take no damage, finish in 1 turn or 1 attack, get a large amount of money, and win an item worth selling.
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Yes, well. If I'm going to do the run, I'll be doing it my own way. I'm sick of RPG Runs where people skip most of the fighting. Plus, with EarthBound, skipping all unnecessary fighting will put my party at great disadvantages. And without PSI Paralysis to use against Mondo Mole in Happy Happy Village Cave, the hopes of beating him are slim due to his high attack power. Fighting every battle will have great benefits. I'll be at a minimal level, but strong enough to beat Bosses. Plus, it will also help the Money Situation some. It's not like I'll be sticking around one area fighting for over an hour, that would ruin the whole run. Any fights I come across, I'll probably complete. It will ensure I am able to buy plenty of Multi Bottle Rockets for Jeff, which I will probably fill up his inventory with, and possibly Poo's. That way once I'm able to buy them, I won't need to buy anymore for the rest of the game. Multi Bottle Rockets are the strongest weapon in the game basically, I haven't seen anything else that could do more than two thousand damage to a single enemy. Well, anyway, as I've said before, you know what to expect from my run.
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