Post subject: Metal Fight Beyblade series
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I'm sorry for making a more generalized topic, but does anyone recommend TASing a Metal Fight Beyblade game for the DS? There are https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Beyblade:_Metal_Fusion_video_games quite a few of them apparently. I tested with Beyblade: Metal Masters (DS video game) a little bit but my emulator was so slow I didn't get very far at all. Anybody have any clue of the TAS potential of these Beyblade games? I'm really into Beyblade, and I haven't yet seen a TAS of a Beyblade title here, so I thought I might could be the first if I can become an expert at the most efficient one I can find. Any ideas? Suggestions? Feel free to move this topic if there already is a Beyblade topic. P.S.: I haven't really played any Beyblade video games before so I really don't know, just looking for better experience here :P
Post subject: Re: Metal Fight Beyblade series
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Ready Steady Yeti wrote:
my emulator was so slow I didn't get very far at all.
Assuming you're using DeSmuME, do you have Advanced Bus-Level Timing/Dynamic Recompiler on? (Config > Emulation Settings)? Did you try setting frame skips to 1, 2 or 3+ if you are running it very slowly? These are the main factors that influence framerate.
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Hmmmm, I didn't think about that. I just thought it was because of the computer I was using at the time. My Windows 7 Starter computer was being a slow ass, and I had to reboot it because of that, then Windows Explorer crashes every time I turn the computer on. How sad. It has a warranty, so we're sending it back for repairs/replacement. Meanwhile I have a new, faster, Windows 8 computer. Anywho, this isn't a Microsoft forum, so what am I babbling about anyway? XD Anyway So I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with any of these games. They already look like they'd be complicated just to figure out how to play them right, and they seem very battle-oriented and not much adventure/storyline, which can get pretty boring IMO. So I was just wondering, should I even waste my time playing these games to test them out for TASing purposes eventually after I, you know, beat the shit out of them a couple times and find some glitches and tricks or whatever, you know the usual thing TASers do. I didn't see any of them on the bad games list, so if they are bad games for TASing, can we put them there? I'm just wondering guys.
Post subject: the cheesiest speech of all time
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Ready Steady Yeti wrote:
So I was just wondering, should I even waste my time playing these games to test them out for TASing purposes
Alright, I'm going to tell you something for out there. Unless this game is really bad (which it doens't seem to be), the game will be interesting to watch if you put your heart in it. For breaking the game, findings tricks, let your will guide you. You can go at whatever pace you want; you have no time limits. The entire community will be waiting here for your progress. If you want to talk about TASing, and just general help (even more specific help; you may find people interested for the current game you're TASing) don't be scared to check out the TASVideos IRC Channel (at the top of the forum page.)
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Link to video Movie file First 2 fights. Notes: - This is the Gingka path, so we have to take Gingka as lead. - We take Random and wait a few frames because it is faster to Random and do RNG manipulation than just select the characters. This saves 3 frames. We must have the chracters in right order; Gingka at the lead to get his story, Masamune because he has more knockback. - LET IT RIP - For the first fight, I wait a bit before doing a cyclone dash to make sure he doens't block. I then do another one, clipping him out of bounds. - LET IT RIP - The second fight starts off with a Savage Noise, then we do what is called a dash cancel. By doing our special (Savage Noise) at the same time we finish a flame dash, we can immediatly cast Savage Noise. This makes Ryutaro get stuck inside a wall and get both knocked back by the Savage Noise AND the flame dash, clipping him out of the field and much further than you would expect. - Because you only need to win two fights, we will not use Tsubasa for the entierety of the run (he's ugly anyways boo)
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Hmmm, actually it's not a bad TAS idea. Very cool to watch. I'll definitely look into this game. Thanks for showing me the TAS potential it has, really, special thanks. Especially because the battles can be finished rather quickly, that can be part of the reason why the game would be entertaining, plus the fast text scrolling and such. I'll play it for at least a month or two, and then I'll start a TAS hopefully. I already have other projects, so I don't know how much effort I'll put into this one, but it's definitely a good idea. First I should figure out if there's any%/100%. A 100% completion of a game with a lot of text scrolling and battles may be fun to watch. To my knowledge, there are items, characters, and such, that you have to unlock, so I imagine that would eventually count as 100%. I'll look into it, and update you guys further if I start the TAS or something. Thanks. P.S.: I've never heard anyone say Tsubasa is ugly tbh D: To my knowledge, he's one of fangirls' favorite characters. He's not exactly one of my favorite characters either though. I'd say the favorite one I'd seen in your run so far is Tetsuya. He's a nut, acts like he has schizophrenia or something, like some of the other characters on the show, which is why he's really funny.
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Link to video Full game "Arcade, Gingka" (click this link) Start from clear sram (if you don't know how, just make a savestate right at the start of the movie.) Encode coming when my internet stops dropping. Don't know if I should submit it here, as it's pretty boring.
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Yes, please please do submit this. Idk about you but personally I love this TAS and will definitely give it a Yes vote. I want to one day make a TAS of me unlocking everything in the game possible (100%). Maybe you could help me with that also. Please please submit it. You have no idea how much I want it officially submitted! :D P.S.: I really also admire your ability to do this entire TAS within 1 day. I'm incredibly impressed, and great run indeed.
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Yes, please please do submit this. Idk about you but personally I love this TAS and will definitely give it a Yes vote. I want to one day make a TAS of me unlocking everything in the game possible. Maybe you could help me with that also. Please please submit it. You have no idea how much I want it officially submitted! :D
http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17057
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Ready Steady Yeti wrote:
I want to one day make a TAS of me unlocking everything in the game possible.
On a different subject, it is impossible to 100% this game as of now. Why? You need passwords to unlock the last parts, and only one has been released. To get 100%, you'd have to actively dig around in the game memory, find the passwords (if they are not randomly generated based on clock time or region locked lol) and enter them. This alone is a task that I'm not sure anyone can do (and even less sure anyone is interested in), unless they really like digging in memory. Edit: Did I mention to 100% the game, you need to finish Story Mode 35 TIMES!!!!!, do all 100 missions, do Survival Mode (which is battle the 34 other chracters without losing), and get the password and product codes all to get all the 350ish Beyblade parts and 100%? .. yeah, see you in seven hours.
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Hmmm... I am very disappointed that it is really that hard to make a 100%. Maybe we should look at another MFB game next...
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xy2_ wrote:
Ready Steady Yeti wrote:
I want to one day make a TAS of me unlocking everything in the game possible.
On a different subject, it is impossible to 100% this game as of now. Why? You need passwords to unlock the last parts, and only one has been released. To get 100%, you'd have to actively dig around in the game memory, find the passwords (if they are not randomly generated based on clock time or region locked lol) and enter them. This alone is a task that I'm not sure anyone can do (and even less sure anyone is interested in), unless they really like digging in memory. Edit: Did I mention to 100% the game, you need to finish Story Mode 35 TIMES!!!!!, do all 100 missions, do Survival Mode (which is battle the 34 other chracters without losing), and get the password and product codes all to get all the 350ish Beyblade parts and 100%? .. yeah, see you in seven hours.
Hey, at least there's a vault tier now, so this can be publishable.