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AKheon wrote:
I briefly played this game at one point, got my ass handed back to me by the giant rat. These glitches look quite promising... interested to see more of this.
Thanks! Also, I seem to be suddenly unable to glitch my way into making the spiders hit me several times + poison myself. Can anyone please help me figure out why? Edit: Btw, using "yes" in battle may change address: FFD2 - game state I managed to bring up the inventory, return to the overworld, show a message box and more, but haven't been able to change it to 68 - the map selection screen. If I could, I can simply warp to "Final Dungeon 1" and trigger the Devil's Snare battle and proceed with the story, skipping large amounts of the game.
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jlun2 wrote:
Also, I seem to be suddenly unable to glitch my way into making the spiders hit me several times + poison myself. Can anyone please help me figure out why?
I'm still trying to figure out how that glitch occurred. Can anyone please help me? Edit: If this is figured out, the run can go like this: 1. Same thing as the wip until the train. 2. Glitch yourself to forbidden woods. 3. Kill the frog to get to level 90 4. Encounter another enemy 5. Glitch it to attack yourself 6. Use "Yes" from the frog battle while you get attacked at the same time. This'll open more possibilities than simply using "Yes" during battle. So I was hoping it can manipulate FFD2 to 68 and skip most of the game.
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Sorry man, I'm no tool assistant D: What's changed about it that stopped it from working? Can you not select the targetting in the same way, or does selecting it not do the same thing?
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Mastania wrote:
Sorry man, I'm no tool assistant D: What's changed about it that stopped it from working? Can you not select the targetting in the same way, or does selecting it not do the same thing?
The former. The game menu sometimes doesn't act like the way it was before. Sometimes, you can select an attack during the battle transition, while sometimes, you can't. Unfortunately, I can't figure out why. o_0
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I just encountered something (sorta) amazing. You know the "Yes" item I talked about? Well, one of the effects of using it in battle is resetting the game. Now how's that good? Well, in the run, I never saved my game, so normally, if I soft reset, I'll lose all my data. Well, this glitch does that WITHOUT erasing your data! The moment you start a new file, you'll get a stat reset, but the cards you obtained will remain! Now how's that important? Well, at the beginning of the game, you get to choose which card collection; it determines what cards you'll find later. So normally, to collect all cards and combinations, you must beat the game 4 times. With this glitch, you can simply beat the game once and STILL obtain 100%! What's 100%? Well, since you don't get to keep your items after you beat the game, I think anything that remains should count as part of 100%. If GameFaqs are correct, that means the following: 65535 Sickles/Exp 99 Levels 50 Combinations All Cards The first two and the last can easily be obtained by glitching, and that leaves the combinations which I must manually locate. :P
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Oh look, I've just improved the very beginning of the TAS. WIP v13. This is going to take a while to complete.
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Whoa. Still, if I'm reading this right, doesn't that mean you would still have to play though a large portion of the game each time to retain all cards upon resetting? If 100% is your goal, it's worth mentioning that it's possible to lose the house cup in this game if you don't get enough of the bonus points floating around. My memory is a bit fuzzy, but I think this also leads to the Harry Potter card not being awarded at the end.
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Whoa. Still, if I'm reading this right, doesn't that mean you would still have to play though a large portion of the game each time to retain all cards upon resetting? If 100% is your goal, it's worth mentioning that it's possible to lose the house cup in this game if you don't get enough of the bonus points floating around. My memory is a bit fuzzy, but I think this also leads to the Harry Potter card not being awarded at the end.
Don't worry, the house points can be glitched. I've managed to make it to over 40k using the same glitch as the one that made me get to level 90 fast. Btw, resetting the game with the YES option preserves everything, but as soon as you click new game, only the cards and sickles remain. Which means I'll need to find a way to both glitch the sickles AND the battle at the same time. Oh, and by using that glitch, I somehow learnt new spells, gave away an item I never owned (causing me to have 255 of it), crash the game, warp, turn the screen red/green, turn the time to night, etc. CC05 is the address for which boss you'll fight. You must get it to 15 to fight the toad. I'm going to do both an any% and a 100%, but it'll take some time due to all these improvements I keep finding. Yes, I would have to beat large portions of the game everytime for a 100%, but at least I don't need to start a newgame+. Besides, time is saved by not viewing the ending. And no, it's not to retain all cards, but instead to obtain card combinations, since I found out each deck has its own card combos which can only be obtained by choosing that deck. As in, the card combos found in the overworld changes depending on the deck you chose.
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Can't you just hex the improvements in? This looks interesting and I want it done soon enough :( But not pushing you or anything.
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TehSeven wrote:
Can't you just hex the improvements in? This looks interesting and I want it done soon enough :( But not pushing you or anything.
Everything but the battles and minigames can be hexed in. :P
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Which means I'll need to find a way to both glitch the sickles AND the battle at the same time.
Which I just found! Unfortunately, it lowers my EXP gained to only reach level 78. Also, I somehow managed to control my character during the frog's turn. 0_o
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So..... Link to video No idea why it does that, but this seems like the earliest place you can do it. Basically pause right before an event and open another menu there.
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Any VBM of this? This can lead to a glitched branch.
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Any VBM of this? This can lead to a glitched branch.
I think that's the first post, but since I also remember posting about the game randomly crashing during any battle before, it could also be that.
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hi, i hope to not be banned for regraveyard. me and some other runner start to re-route the game again and start speedrun it. We discover some really cool skip troll skip, light (die and respawn in the infermery in some part of the game). but we get some weird glitch like a teleport from the train to the forest, another where you need to save&reset use the combo to die and skip a lot of walking. so i was thinking if there is someone that want come back into the game and trying to broke it more than the past. trying to understand how things works and stuff like that. i don't know if this is the right place where post it but it's the only HP1gbc post. see ya if you want help us :D
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Gand988 wrote:
hi, i hope to not be banned for regraveyard. ... i don't know if this is the right place where post it but it's the only HP1gbc post.
You're in the clear. We prefer people bumping old topics rather than starting new ones.
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There actually is a completed tas on youtube here: http://youtu.be/tHpPi-yFWaI Sorry about the weird URL. I'm using mobile. That tas only uses save states. So its severely unoptimised. On the other hand, it did show some luck manipulation at least. He thinks a minute or so could be shaved. I'm convinced it could get below 1 hour.
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Gand988 wrote:
We discover some really cool skip troll skip, light (die and respawn in the infermery in some part of the game).
I have a clue what you mean. Is it related to the next paragraph?
but we get some weird glitch like a teleport from the train to the forest, another where you need to save&reset use the combo to die and skip a lot of walking.
This one. This video of me levelling up 86 times. One of the weird side effects is that moving to a certain spot warps you to the forest. Also funnily, this glitch right now is what screwed me over; I keep somehow getting the troll fight/normal battle rather than this glitched battle that massively levels up.
so i was thinking if there is someone that want come back into the game and trying to broke it more than the past. trying to understand how things works and stuff like that. i don't know if this is the right place where post it but it's the only HP1gbc post. see ya if you want help us :D
Good luck! I know a death warp by somehow allowing you to "control" an npc and move during it's turn, then use a move, but I have no idea how to start it outside random occurance. @InfamousKnight Sorry, that's for the sequel, so I'm rather clueless about it. Edit: Steps for doing that wrong warp/train level glitch since I never posted: 1. Get a card 2. Move right infront of the Malfoy encounter and open the menu at the same time 3. Quickly move down and use said card 4. The game will instantly count as a "win" 5. Talk to the npcs in the same order as the video 6. Move to that black shirt npc and try to talk 7. Carefully move to the goggled npc staring at the window and talk; failing to do so will wrong warp to the forest with no method to advance the story. 8. If you did it correctly, the next battle should be a glitched npc and a frog. This will give out 50k xp. Doing it wrong will give the troll boss fight. Oh, in case you wonder what happens if you talk to other NPCs:
Talking to NPC's before you talk to the glitched one that messes up the screen causes weird effects: -Gives you glitched items -Give you 10k-50k sickles -Never ending dialogue box -An expiray date -Nothing
Edit2: https://www.youtube.com/user/dt4ra22in/videos this guy has some tricks
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first of all thanks for the answare and to be still active in this therad. @jlun2 daniel , supermonkeypotate and me are the people how discover most of the broken things in this game in this months. for the 'light skip' i mean this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBGem7TGNoE we discover that we can jump a lot of walking just dying, but it's hard to do because you need to get a dead fight in memory and at night you have more chance to get an encounter. i discover that is possible to save and quit, use a combo and trigger fight against myself, but the chance of working are really low. QUESTION: for your frog XP you need to win a card in a fight. pick somewhere or buy some chocofrog? because with our route we pick 2 cards at the beginning of the game, but before fight the rat. So if you tell us that we need to pick it after collect the money from the bank we can deal with it :) edit 1: i was trying againt the frogXP but i'm able to fight only against the Troll and as you know you can't run from him XD any clue?
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Gand988 wrote:
first of all thanks for the answare and to be still active in this therad. @jlun2 daniel , supermonkeypotate and me are the people how discover most of the broken things in this game in this months. for the 'light skip' i mean this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBGem7TGNoE we discover that we can jump a lot of walking just dying, but it's hard to do because you need to get a dead fight in memory and at night you have more chance to get an encounter. i discover that is possible to save and quit, use a combo and trigger fight against myself, but the chance of working are really low. QUESTION: for your frog XP you need to win a card in a fight. pick somewhere or buy some chocofrog? because with our route we pick 2 cards at the beginning of the game, but before fight the rat. So if you tell us that we need to pick it after collect the money from the bank we can deal with it :)
1. Uh...It's been a while but I believe the card that was obtained for the frog was one of the ones given at the beginning. 2. Have you folks ever succeed a consistent way to "fight yourself"? I know you died in the skip, but it turns out by being at a high level it's very hard to die. :P 3. Have you managed to get both the 50k sickles and XP frog happen at the same time? The sickles would really help buying new cards (from chocolate) 4. After that frog battle, I get an item called "Yes". Using it gives a variety of effects, including changing the game's story progression to "New" while keeping XP, items, etc. Have you folks managed to get anything else happen? Edit: I'm somewhat free today, so I can try and get a input file for you that has the frog.
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1. [...] i see, i've try a lot of things in this mounths but i was able to get the frogXP only after warping in the forest, so was really useles. ps: in the train we found that we can use a combination out of combat ( so we trigger a fight, a win) we talk with a girl 4 times and we are able to skip the malfoy fight. 2. [...] To fight against yourself you just need to restart the game, so the memory addres when you have the previous fight is clean. At that point you just need to use a combination out of fight and you fight against yourself. If you don't get any damage the game softlock. this is the only way to get consistent. 3. I figure out how to get the 50k sick (maybe more). But you need to have a specific item and number of item to get it, i think i have a video on twitch where i try to do it. At moment the only way to get more money at the beginning of the game is to drop the shoes against the big rat at Gringot, take the money from the bank, exit from it (w/o get any fight), buy chocofrog and hope that find some combination. So we are able to dupe the last drop more times, at least untile the game crash xD 4. supermonkeypotato is trying to understand what's appened if you get that item. he found a lot of weird glitch ( useles ) ---- i found a way to get outofbound time ago. if you open in the same frame the menu and fight against a boss you trigger the fight inside the menu, you fight like normal you do but after that you are stuck in the texture. i don't have any videos but is really easy to replicate.
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http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/28057096673752240 Froggy encounter at the lake. I found out if I pressed "A" 6 times at the black shirted NPC, it gives a higher chance of a frog encounter than a troll. Hope this helps you find out what's going on and how to get 50k sickles + 50k XP at the same time. Edit: Hey, I'm not sure if you had better luck, but I can't seem to override the knight boss with the frog. Edit2: EC05 (System Bus); its responsible for boss encounters. Here's some values 1. Malfoy 2. Giant Rat + 2 purple rats 3. Troll 4. Ogre 5. Purple rabbit (How do you even fight this guy normally???) 6 Chickens x3 7. Rook (Castle) 8. Knight (Horse) 9. Knight (Humanoid) 10. Devil's Snare 11. Professor Quirrell 12. Voldemort 13. Giant Rat + 2 brown rats 14. Knight (Not chess piece; from before Hogwarts) 15. Frog + unattackable glitch character (Gives 50k XP) Edit3: http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/28066293382421698 For reference; this loses the ability to get 50k XP and instead gets a 38956 XP. I also managed to figure out how to not warp into the forest. I'm positive this is needed simply because it'll allow me to mass buy chocolate frogs for cards later. I'm not sure how to handle the death warps, but at the very least I can use the cards for quick chicken feathers later. Also finally, I found out you don't even need to move to malfoy encounter; just immediately use a card, talk to the black shirted fellow 6 times, then continue on with the glitch. This forfeits any chance of obtaining the sickles however. Edit4: Link to video And thanks for the tip with the death warp! That may actually be faster, since as long as another encounter is avoided, you can simply use another card to die.
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@jlun2 i've try to replicate it but i always found the troll. you think this is possible to replicate in RTA or is possible only on TAS? i'm worried about standing in a specific pixel and walk in a specific pattern. can you try to see if something change if you talk with the girl in a different spawn and something like that? btw, we also know that you can use the combo card to skip the malfoy fight ( we call it train skip ), this skip change a lot of things in the route. thx for your work and help
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@jlun2 i've try to replicate it but i always found the troll. you think this is possible to replicate in RTA or is possible only on TAS? i'm worried about standing in a specific pixel and walk in a specific pattern. can you try to see if something change if you talk with the girl in a different spawn and something like that? btw, we also know that you can use the combo card to skip the malfoy fight ( we call it train skip ), this skip change a lot of things in the route. thx for your work and help
After you get the sickles, be sure to talk to Neville. For some reason, whenever I talk to the window guy without doing so, the game won't let me talk to anyone else afterwards. Make sure to hear the door sound at least twice when pressing A several times at the window guy; it seems if it only happened once either you warp to the forest or the game no longer allows you to talk to anyone else. To make it easier for practise on emulator, EC05 should turn to 3 (troll fight) when you talk to the far right cabin npc for the sickles and then 15 once you talk/press A at the window guy. Finally, I actually tried saving and resetting at various points. If I save at the train after using the cards, but before talking to others, resetting makes the far right cabin npc no longer "responsive". Saving before using the cards also won't work, since apparently you need to "win" a battle for the malfoy/train skip to work. Right now, the earliest point to save and have this glitch still work is before handing in the school supply list, since that will allow you to fight rats and win for the cards to work. Edit: Just noticed this doesn't place the glitched "Yes" item to my inventory, unlike the variant without the sickles. Curious.
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the save and reset, to be effective, can be used only 2 times during the speedrun. 1) when you take norbert from hagrid. If you die inside the house the game warp you on infirmary (4rd floor?) and next you go at 7th floor. The fun fact of this warp is that you can glitch the game and force him to day time. This mean you can walk when you want without finding enemy and teacher, but you can't use shortcut because the game don't allow you to take them at night. It's a really weird glitch but fun and really useful. 2) after we exit from the forest after detention. i sometimes abuse of this deathwarp when we need to go at the 3rd floor for the last part of the game. you die in the common room and it's done, but at 90% of the time the screen glitch very badly. you can check this video that is the last route of the game. Link to video you can find there all the last stuff we discover. the most important things that we were trying to achieve are : minigames skips, some cutscene skip and a solid FrogXP. a fun fact: if you open the menu in the same frame of the cutscene dialog with hagrid inside the gringot the game softlock, you are not able to take the money from the bank and the quest don't progress :D if you need help to how some glitch/skip works tell us question how did you discover this glitch? the fact that you can talk with the girl and next in that spot and the other stuff? i'm really curious thanks