Post subject: The smurfs
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http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/download/25699960531248053 Improving my cancelled submission (http://tasvideos.org/4847S.html), right now I'm 135 frame ahead, this derives from jumping early in the first level to get ahead during the cutscene and jumping on the cave entrance (thanks to axodo for the finds), jumping early in the second stage and saving 16 frames (still not exactly sure if this is the only factor that save time, still investigating), and general better optimization in the third stage!
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http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/download/25727704646427694 More time saved, I'm now 328 frame ahead. Two major thing are jumping from the snowman directly to a ledge in stage 4 and better boss fight in stage 5. In stage 4 I've tried during the boost part to totaly avoid the snowman before the pit with the fan, but I couldn't do it, don't think it's possible!
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I found that you can save time in the 8th level, by going back to the checkpoint after getting double jump, then go to the platform on the top left (where there is the yellow enemy), then to the moving platform to reach end of the level, instead of doing all the double jumping stuff intended ;)
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http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/download/25751651888985149 Almost done with this run! Big improvement come from a glitch in the sixth stage, by jumping in a specific frame after you jump off the rope you can kill the bat without losing speed. 421 frames ahead
Axodo wrote:
I found that you can save time in the 8th level, by going back to the checkpoint after getting double jump, then go to the platform on the top left (where there is the yellow enemy), then to the moving platform to reach end of the level, instead of doing all the double jumping stuff intended ;)
Used this route, but still I needed to wait for the platform and the crushing wall, at the end it's not faster, but still a nice find, thanks!
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turbofa wrote:
Axodo wrote:
I found that you can save time in the 8th level, by going back to the checkpoint after getting double jump, then go to the platform on the top left (where there is the yellow enemy), then to the moving platform to reach end of the level, instead of doing all the double jumping stuff intended ;)
Used this route, but still I needed to wait for the platform and the crushing wall, at the end it's not faster, but still a nice find, thanks!
I admit I didn't take the time to check, I was sure it would be faster =p Nice find for the bat jump. Do you have an idea of what makes your speed dont reduce on that jump ? If yes maybe it could be used in sommes other places in the game
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Axodo wrote:
turbofa wrote:
Axodo wrote:
I found that you can save time in the 8th level, by going back to the checkpoint after getting double jump, then go to the platform on the top left (where there is the yellow enemy), then to the moving platform to reach end of the level, instead of doing all the double jumping stuff intended ;)
Used this route, but still I needed to wait for the platform and the crushing wall, at the end it's not faster, but still a nice find, thanks!
I admit I didn't take the time to check, I was sure it would be faster =p Nice find for the bat jump. Do you have an idea of what makes your speed dont reduce on that jump ? If yes maybe it could be used in sommes other places in the game
I think it's the camera. In the moment I hit the bat, the camera starts moving. This is the only place I've got something like this and I noticed by re-watching the movie! Done nothing really particular in that jump, just this!
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In the 4th level, for the big jump before the checkpoint (the one with the snowman and the fan), when jumping at the edge of the platform, I don't obtain the same result when I do it before the snowman appears (thank to the speed potion and the cutscene that allow me to be outside the camera), and if I wait for the camera, kill the snowman then perform this jump. I'm not totally sure, but I think it's because the fan is probably not loaded yet in the first case, so I hit the wall and loose my speed This would mean that you have to wait a bit that the fan is loaded, so I agree with turbofa in the fact that you have to deal with the snowman whatever you do
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I improved the first level, by using a new trick, that consists of taking damage to get a little more speed than usual, and keeping this speed by jumpig as soon as you touch the ground. For some reason, sometimes when you touch the ground, you loose a bit of your speed. I don't know what causes this yet http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/28040014320914096 This movie ends the first level in 9696 frames, against 9806 in the published one ;)
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Player (76)
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I found a way to get OoB ! This requires very precise jump, and is useless for now. But I want to share it here Link to video
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Player (76)
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Thanks to a new glitch found by turbofa, I improved once more the first level. I tried to use TAStudio to change the "old" first level from ths TAS I'm currently doing by this one, but it makes the rest of the run desync, I could not find a way to deal with it, I should have to redo the whole run. As the TAS is almost finished, I will not do it again. I share the new first level here in case someone would like to do another TAS after mine, or simply find a way to make the rest of the run sync with this new level I hope this would help : http://tasvideos.org/userfiles/info/30242638064197287
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Well, I changed my mind and started over the TAS with the improved first level. Thanks to new stuff, half of the game is done and I'm 627 frames ahead of my previous work, and 1231 of the published movie The WIP is available here
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