Posted: 4/17/2017 12:16 PM
Post subject: Question about unoptimized runs
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thegoldfish
Joined: 4/2/2017
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Hello! I just started here recently, so I'm generally an amateur TASer. This means I do not have a whole lot of skill in optimization, etc. Does anybody know of any runs I could do that are generally flexible (e.g. that do not require proper optimization, WR times, etc)? Sorry if this question was a little vague, I will clarify if needed. Thank you! EDIT: On second thought, this should have probably gone in Newbie Corner.. Whoops.
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Posted: 4/17/2017 12:56 PM
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ThunderAxe31
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Hello and welcome! So, are you basically asking for suggestion about games that are easy to TAS? Well, I'm not able to suggest you any titles, because all the games I've picked up turned out to be hard to optimize... But I still have some directions. The first TAS I worked on was an improvement of a published run, and that allowed me to get used with the TASing tools and getting experience at my own pace. I suggest you to try to beat a currently published TAS as well: this will be simpler than starting a project from scratch, because you will be able to access to the documentation provided by the movie that you want to beat and its movie file. I also suggest you to use TAStudio tool from BizHawk. Don't be afraid to make mistakes and to ask help if you have any troubles! ;) Good luck!
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Posted: 4/17/2017 2:09 PM
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thegoldfish
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ThunderAxe31 wrote:
Hello and welcome! So, are you basically asking for suggestion about games that are easy to TAS? Well, I'm not able to suggest you any titles, because all the games I've picked up turned out to be hard to optimize... But I still have some directions. The first TAS I worked on was an improvement of a published run, and that allowed me to get used with the TASing tools and getting experience at my own pace. I suggest you to try to beat a currently published TAS as well: this will be simpler than starting a project from scratch, because you will be able to access to the documentation provided by the movie that you want to beat and its movie file. I also suggest you to use TAStudio tool from BizHawk. Don't be afraid to make mistakes and to ask help if you have any troubles! ;) Good luck!
Thank you! I'll try that.
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Posted: 4/18/2017 12:15 AM
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Patashu
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And if you want TASes that are 'easier' to beat, you can see lists of published TASes by year at http://tasvideos.org/Movies-Y2005.html (for 2006, 2007, 2008, etc. just replace the year in the URL) For 2005 there's a bit of a survivor bias, in that there's an on-going project to obsolete every 2005 TAS so the remaining ones are the hardest to do, but 2006 to like 2010 should have less of this bias. EDIT: Or if you want to TAS a game that has a speedrun but no TAS yet, check out http://tasvideos.org/SDARunsWithoutAPublishedTAS.html
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Posted: 4/18/2017 1:09 AM
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Also, if you don't mind the very dated gameplay experience, Atari 2600 has many possibilities for TASes where you can learn a lot in a pretty simple environment.
Posted: 4/23/2017 3:21 PM
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thegoldfish
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Patashu wrote:
And if you want TASes that are 'easier' to beat, you can see lists of published TASes by year at http://tasvideos.org/Movies-Y2005.html (for 2006, 2007, 2008, etc. just replace the year in the URL) For 2005 there's a bit of a survivor bias, in that there's an on-going project to obsolete every 2005 TAS so the remaining ones are the hardest to do, but 2006 to like 2010 should have less of this bias. EDIT: Or if you want to TAS a game that has a speedrun but no TAS yet, check out http://tasvideos.org/SDARunsWithoutAPublishedTAS.html
Alyosha wrote:
Also, if you don't mind the very dated gameplay experience, Atari 2600 has many possibilities for TASes where you can learn a lot in a pretty simple environment.
Thank you both for the helpful advice! I'll be sure to try all of those.
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