Posted: 12/8/2017 7:41 PM
Post subject: G&W simulator vs emulator
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Fortranm
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Most of the stuff being discussed here is in future tense, but it's not a bad idea to start the discussion now. http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Game_%26_Watch#Simulators Long story short: Libretro is adding simulator cores for G&W games, and MAME is implementing the ability to actually emulate G&W roms. It seems very likely that TASing those simulators via Libretrohawk might become possible(if ever) before TASing via MAME-core on Bizhawk does. If this turns out to be the case, will movies made with libretro G&W simulators be eligible for publication? Those cores aren't actual emulators, but does the simplistic nature of most G&W games make high-quality simulators good enough to represent the actual game?
Posted: 12/8/2017 7:53 PM
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Id be up for it. Although alot of game and watch games dont have any sort of speedrun capability, for example fire rescue, chef, fire attack, and so on. But games like Doneky Kong and such can definitely work. We do have a DK TAS for G&W Gallery but so far that's all we were able to do. I would love to see more TASes like this if we allow it. https://youtu.be/U1eY59o_Xr4
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Posted: 12/8/2017 8:09 PM
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Accuracy is a slippery eel, and emulator vs simulator is not always well defined; while all of our major cores certainly do emulate basic cpu functionality, other parts of hardware are often simulated at a very low level of accuracy. So simply being a simulator isn't enough to disqualify something. The existence of a potentially higher quality emulation path also isn't enough to disqualify something unless that higher quality emulator is also fully TASable. I don't agree with this decision, but it's been the official TASVideos decision forever. Any particular GMW emulator or simulator should be examined for all of the usual criteria, including accuracy and TASability, but not prematurely rejected.