Posted: 6/3/2012 6:39 PM
Post subject: Shockwave Flash rerecording emulator?
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MarbleousDave
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We know that SWF files converted to EXE won't play on Hourglass. There is a possibility that there would be a rerecording SWF emulator.
Posted: 6/3/2012 11:47 PM
Post subject: Re: Shockwave Flash rerecording emulator?
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CoolKirby
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PikachuMan wrote:
There is a possibility that there would be a rerecording SWF emulator.
Source?
Posted: 6/3/2012 11:48 PM
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NitroGenesis
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I think he's saying that a SWF "emulator" is a possibility.
YoungJ1997lol wrote:
Normally i would say Yes, but thennI thought "its not the same hack" so ill stick with meh.
Posted: 6/3/2012 11:50 PM
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henke37
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I think that is a typo. He means "could". It is not impossible in theory. But you pretty much need to write your own flash player. That would be difficult.
Posted: 6/3/2012 11:53 PM
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CoolKirby
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We would need the swfs to play back deterministically, or else they can't be accurately TASed.
Posted: 6/3/2012 11:54 PM
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henke37
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Well, aside from the automatic frame skipping, the sound synchronization, the file/socket io and the RNG that shouldn't be too hard.
Posted: 5/7/2016 3:56 PM
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Can anyone play flash games using gnash? I can only use win32 version and it doesn't play abobo well for example.
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Posted: 1/26/2017 2:23 PM
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feos
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Bump. Anyone tried using flash player on Wii/Dolphin? I can't believe no one got this idea before. The entire flash player memory will be within Dolphin's, so it can be saved/loaded on a whim.
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Posted: 6/29/2017 3:58 AM
(Edited: 2/15/2018 10:10 PM)
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dekutony
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Here's some Flash players/emulation projects that are open source (notice that all 3 haven't been worked on for years): -Gnash: https://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ Source Code: http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/gnash/ Source code 2: https://github.com/strk/gnash Other Source (not official): https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily/+package/gnash -Lightspark: http://lightspark.github.io/ Source Code: https://github.com/lightspark/lightspark -Shumway: https://mozilla.github.io/shumway/ Source Code: https://github.com/mozilla/shumway
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Posted: 1/26/2018 5:27 PM
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TheCoreyBurton
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It might be worth looking in to Swivel. Although it has no TAS tools, it was developed with the intention of capturing SWF animations to high quality video files without dropping frames. It's open source and currently the creator looks to be in the progress of re-creating it and fixing a few of the problems the original version had. Interestingly, rather than try emulate Flash itself, the program seems to rely on Adobe AIR. I'm not sure how this would affect determinism.
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Posted: 1/6/2020 4:38 AM
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Ruffle is a Flash Player emulator written in the Rust programming language. It's still in early stages. https://github.com/ruffle-rs/ruffle
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