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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L-9FRVb4gQ&feature=youtu.be
I sequence broke this boss, usually, when its health runs low during each round, the robot will superjump onto the rocks in the background and starts to throw rocks at you, which you have to dodge and throw them back at it.
But once again, Mr. Incredible doesn't have time for that and this is the outcome.
This speedrun shows what happens when the Omnidroid runs low on health: https://youtu.be/92IgmKw6E08?t=40m39s
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Thanks to speedrunner Spidy Bawlz for finding a huge skip on the Apartment Inferno level.
Link to video
I apologize for the lack of progress on this game, the main reason is because of the Omnidroid Boss fights, the first one demotivated me alot and the 2nd looks disgusting to TAS.
I'll get back to this game, eventually. (eventually)
Perception is the greatest deception.
nitrogenesis: 04:43:04: but TAS is life
nitrogenesis: 04:43:23: TAS everyday
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Currently Trying to TAS:
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The Incredibles (GC)
The Incredibles: Rise Of The Underminer (GC)
Future:
(GC) Egg Mania: Eggstreme Madness
(Wii) The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of The Unicorn
Mario Kart Wii 32 Track GP
wonderful commentary on that video. I haven't played this game in ages, what's the estimated time save on that?
Edit: went around to mess with this game and found about a minute timesaver in the first stage.
After looking into it more I found you can walk around the side of the cutscene trigger and then activate the cutscene as you grab onto the zipline, allowing you to slide down that during the cutscene. It should save a few more seconds.
Link to video
I started looking into other things, but this games checkpoint system and unskippable cutscenes are kind of demotivating me
Edit: alright here's a 10 second time saver (maybe more depending on console loads?)
Link to video
And a 1 minute and 15 second time saver
Link to video
And a 1 minute and 10 second time saver
Link to video
And just a general exploit
Link to video
Edit again: Here's a little timesaver on the Bomb Voyage fight. It saves about 3-4 seconds/hit, I think it's doable on every hit but some are risky because if you miss you'll be too far out to make it back (getting hit by the bomb should be enough knockback to throw you back). It's probably worth testing to see if it works with the missiles as well, though I'm on console at the moment and don't want to try it without savestates.
Link to video
Completed:
2010-Current | Sonic Adventure 2: Battle - Individual Level TASes
2014 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Any% in 1:05:03.23
2014 | Sonic Adventure 2: Battle - Hero Story (w/ THC98) in 25:11.87
2016 | Metroid Prime - Any% in 00:37 (In-Game Time)
2018 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Cheat% in 1:42.350
2020 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Any% in 0:39:20.10
2022 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Cheat% in 1:25.567
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Wow you are awesome man!
The estimated time save on that level is about 1min 7secs I'd say.
The question I gotta ask my self is should I redo the whole thing now?
Perception is the greatest deception.
nitrogenesis: 04:43:04: but TAS is life
nitrogenesis: 04:43:23: TAS everyday
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Currently Trying to TAS:
On Hold:
The Incredibles (GC)
The Incredibles: Rise Of The Underminer (GC)
Future:
(GC) Egg Mania: Eggstreme Madness
(Wii) The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of The Unicorn
Mario Kart Wii 32 Track GP
Obviously it's your call but if you have the time and patience to start it over, that'd be pretty cool.
I don't have much faith in myself finding anymore skips, there are a few that I've tried for a while but had no luck with. If anyone else wants to look into them here's a list, I'm out of ideas.
Bank Heist has that one cutscene skip that was posted in here before, maybe there's some way to make it work on GC?
Skyline Stretch as whole is one area, if there were a way to get onto an unintended building you could probably bypass a section of the level. Also on the last area, you can use that swinging exploit to get onto the fence to the right of where you start. I wasn't able to find anything to jump on after that which would aid in getting to the top though.
Nomanisan Island has a rock you can do that R jump + B attack trick to land on, on the other side of the rock wall before the OoB that I found. If you can climb up there it would skip the tree flinging you over the rocks and having to do the OoB again. I might mess with TAS on this later when my computer isn't overheated.
Robot Arena has seemingly huge potential for a skip, but the invisible walls in this level just seem too high no matter what. You can get up on the concrete walls before the rail gun part of the level, but there's nothing else to stand on up there. I also strongly believe that the power supply to the blue lasers in the left and right tunnels at the start are invincible until later on. Even the code to break everything doesn't break them. If there were a way you could just go through there, you could skip the rail gun section. There's a thin tree and a thicker tree beside it you can jump onto before the boss at the end of this stage, again the invisible walls just seem too high to get over, even from on top of the tallest tree there.
Syndrome's Base I noticed has some acute angled ceiling/walls meeting the floor, crouching into those makes you clip the wall a little but I wasn't able to actually break out or have and useful outcome here.
Finding Mr. Incredible has a door that opens to let guards out near the start of the stage that you can jump through before it closes, having that door close on you can clip you inside it, from there I'm not sure if you can escape, I tried with savestates for a while.
Secret Lava Labs you can use the first swinging thing in the first lava room to get onto the pole the swinging thing is hanging from, but you can't really do much from there since the panels don't seem active
Completed:
2010-Current | Sonic Adventure 2: Battle - Individual Level TASes
2014 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Any% in 1:05:03.23
2014 | Sonic Adventure 2: Battle - Hero Story (w/ THC98) in 25:11.87
2016 | Metroid Prime - Any% in 00:37 (In-Game Time)
2018 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Cheat% in 1:42.350
2020 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Any% in 0:39:20.10
2022 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Cheat% in 1:25.567
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itsPersonnal wrote:
Obviously it's your call but if you have the time and patience to start it over, that'd be pretty cool.
Yeah, I think I will redo it.
Do you think it is possible to hex edit some input from different levels in without trouble with de-syncs?
Perception is the greatest deception.
nitrogenesis: 04:43:04: but TAS is life
nitrogenesis: 04:43:23: TAS everyday
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MKWii TAS Records: https://goo.gl/ZrGKgt
Currently Trying to TAS:
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The Incredibles (GC)
The Incredibles: Rise Of The Underminer (GC)
Future:
(GC) Egg Mania: Eggstreme Madness
(Wii) The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of The Unicorn
Mario Kart Wii 32 Track GP
I've never had any luck with hexing inputs for GC games, normally it syncs for a couple seconds and then something gets mistimed and everything gets out of sync. I even once had inputs I never did show up, when I recently tried to hex a section of the BfBB TAS it ended up pausing the game partway into the added inputs, I had never pressed start...
Apparently Tasmalleo has hexed inputs into some of his TASes, so maybe he knows something I don't. Easiest way to contact him might be Twitter.
Completed:
2010-Current | Sonic Adventure 2: Battle - Individual Level TASes
2014 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Any% in 1:05:03.23
2014 | Sonic Adventure 2: Battle - Hero Story (w/ THC98) in 25:11.87
2016 | Metroid Prime - Any% in 00:37 (In-Game Time)
2018 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Cheat% in 1:42.350
2020 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Any% in 0:39:20.10
2022 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Cheat% in 1:25.567
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Even faster strat for Apartment Inferno
Link to video
Perception is the greatest deception.
nitrogenesis: 04:43:04: but TAS is life
nitrogenesis: 04:43:23: TAS everyday
MKWii TAS Discord: https://discord.gg/z5bu44H
MKWii TAS Records: https://goo.gl/ZrGKgt
Currently Trying to TAS:
On Hold:
The Incredibles (GC)
The Incredibles: Rise Of The Underminer (GC)
Future:
(GC) Egg Mania: Eggstreme Madness
(Wii) The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of The Unicorn
Mario Kart Wii 32 Track GP
Perception is the greatest deception.
nitrogenesis: 04:43:04: but TAS is life
nitrogenesis: 04:43:23: TAS everyday
MKWii TAS Discord: https://discord.gg/z5bu44H
MKWii TAS Records: https://goo.gl/ZrGKgt
Currently Trying to TAS:
On Hold:
The Incredibles (GC)
The Incredibles: Rise Of The Underminer (GC)
Future:
(GC) Egg Mania: Eggstreme Madness
(Wii) The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of The Unicorn
Mario Kart Wii 32 Track GP
Perception is the greatest deception.
nitrogenesis: 04:43:04: but TAS is life
nitrogenesis: 04:43:23: TAS everyday
MKWii TAS Discord: https://discord.gg/z5bu44H
MKWii TAS Records: https://goo.gl/ZrGKgt
Currently Trying to TAS:
On Hold:
The Incredibles (GC)
The Incredibles: Rise Of The Underminer (GC)
Future:
(GC) Egg Mania: Eggstreme Madness
(Wii) The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of The Unicorn
Mario Kart Wii 32 Track GP
Completed:
2010-Current | Sonic Adventure 2: Battle - Individual Level TASes
2014 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Any% in 1:05:03.23
2014 | Sonic Adventure 2: Battle - Hero Story (w/ THC98) in 25:11.87
2016 | Metroid Prime - Any% in 00:37 (In-Game Time)
2018 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Cheat% in 1:42.350
2020 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Any% in 0:39:20.10
2022 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Cheat% in 1:25.567
Currently working on:
METROID PRIME ANY%
Perception is the greatest deception.
nitrogenesis: 04:43:04: but TAS is life
nitrogenesis: 04:43:23: TAS everyday
MKWii TAS Discord: https://discord.gg/z5bu44H
MKWii TAS Records: https://goo.gl/ZrGKgt
Currently Trying to TAS:
On Hold:
The Incredibles (GC)
The Incredibles: Rise Of The Underminer (GC)
Future:
(GC) Egg Mania: Eggstreme Madness
(Wii) The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of The Unicorn
Mario Kart Wii 32 Track GP
Perception is the greatest deception.
nitrogenesis: 04:43:04: but TAS is life
nitrogenesis: 04:43:23: TAS everyday
MKWii TAS Discord: https://discord.gg/z5bu44H
MKWii TAS Records: https://goo.gl/ZrGKgt
Currently Trying to TAS:
On Hold:
The Incredibles (GC)
The Incredibles: Rise Of The Underminer (GC)
Future:
(GC) Egg Mania: Eggstreme Madness
(Wii) The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of The Unicorn
Mario Kart Wii 32 Track GP
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Update to the RTA WR 1:18:32
*Video was deleted by uploader*
Perception is the greatest deception.
nitrogenesis: 04:43:04: but TAS is life
nitrogenesis: 04:43:23: TAS everyday
MKWii TAS Discord: https://discord.gg/z5bu44H
MKWii TAS Records: https://goo.gl/ZrGKgt
Currently Trying to TAS:
On Hold:
The Incredibles (GC)
The Incredibles: Rise Of The Underminer (GC)
Future:
(GC) Egg Mania: Eggstreme Madness
(Wii) The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of The Unicorn
Mario Kart Wii 32 Track GP
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grassini wrote:
waitin for you ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
to get back at this,mr. dwainiumB
IT'S SHOWTIMEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWIR01JxUGo&feature=youtu.be
The new strats will be explained later, but I just gotta hand it to the RTA community for breaking this game in soo many ways.
(I hope I explained the everything in a understandable way)
So it was discovered that rolling and jumping is the fastest form of movement in this game.
1:17 Cutscene skip is not possible on GC, the trigger just extends too far.
1:36 It was necessary to jump instead of a roll because I would have been hit by an enemy while lifting the broken vault door if I tried to roll.
2:17 New strat, allows me to skip the whole building section.
2:20 I have to avoid the cutscene trigger until the end of the zip wire for a very weird looking cutscene.
3:04 A Y-Run is used here, it's the fastest way to defeat all the enemies.
3:11 I pick up the bomb here to knockout 1 of the 4 flying enemies quicker so I could get to the cutscene earlier.
Perception is the greatest deception.
nitrogenesis: 04:43:04: but TAS is life
nitrogenesis: 04:43:23: TAS everyday
MKWii TAS Discord: https://discord.gg/z5bu44H
MKWii TAS Records: https://goo.gl/ZrGKgt
Currently Trying to TAS:
On Hold:
The Incredibles (GC)
The Incredibles: Rise Of The Underminer (GC)
Future:
(GC) Egg Mania: Eggstreme Madness
(Wii) The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of The Unicorn
Mario Kart Wii 32 Track GP
Completed:
2010-Current | Sonic Adventure 2: Battle - Individual Level TASes
2014 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Any% in 1:05:03.23
2014 | Sonic Adventure 2: Battle - Hero Story (w/ THC98) in 25:11.87
2016 | Metroid Prime - Any% in 00:37 (In-Game Time)
2018 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Cheat% in 1:42.350
2020 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Any% in 0:39:20.10
2022 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Cheat% in 1:25.567
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grassini wrote:
when i saw it bumped i hoped for dwainium's post
Sorry man, I'm kinda demotivated from TASing this game because one of the boss fights got new strats and RNG hasn't been nice. (I'll get back to it soon-ish)
And I've just been speedrunning and TASing other things.
Oh, here's a TAS I made of the next level: Skyline Stretch. (There's no sound because I'm forgetful)
Link to video
Perception is the greatest deception.
nitrogenesis: 04:43:04: but TAS is life
nitrogenesis: 04:43:23: TAS everyday
MKWii TAS Discord: https://discord.gg/z5bu44H
MKWii TAS Records: https://goo.gl/ZrGKgt
Currently Trying to TAS:
On Hold:
The Incredibles (GC)
The Incredibles: Rise Of The Underminer (GC)
Future:
(GC) Egg Mania: Eggstreme Madness
(Wii) The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of The Unicorn
Mario Kart Wii 32 Track GP
I'm almost positive that at 2:30 in the video it's possible to swing up to that ledge and skip the helicopter. I want to say I've done it, but I can't find a video.
Completed:
2010-Current | Sonic Adventure 2: Battle - Individual Level TASes
2014 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Any% in 1:05:03.23
2014 | Sonic Adventure 2: Battle - Hero Story (w/ THC98) in 25:11.87
2016 | Metroid Prime - Any% in 00:37 (In-Game Time)
2018 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Cheat% in 1:42.350
2020 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Any% in 0:39:20.10
2022 | Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom - Cheat% in 1:25.567
Currently working on:
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itsPersonnal wrote:
I'm almost positive that at 2:30 in the video it's possible to swing up to that ledge and skip the helicopter. I want to say I've done it, but I can't find a video.
I actually tried to get up there with different angles with no success, it always seemed to be just out of reach.
Perception is the greatest deception.
nitrogenesis: 04:43:04: but TAS is life
nitrogenesis: 04:43:23: TAS everyday
MKWii TAS Discord: https://discord.gg/z5bu44H
MKWii TAS Records: https://goo.gl/ZrGKgt
Currently Trying to TAS:
On Hold:
The Incredibles (GC)
The Incredibles: Rise Of The Underminer (GC)
Future:
(GC) Egg Mania: Eggstreme Madness
(Wii) The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of The Unicorn
Mario Kart Wii 32 Track GP
Perception is the greatest deception.
nitrogenesis: 04:43:04: but TAS is life
nitrogenesis: 04:43:23: TAS everyday
MKWii TAS Discord: https://discord.gg/z5bu44H
MKWii TAS Records: https://goo.gl/ZrGKgt
Currently Trying to TAS:
On Hold:
The Incredibles (GC)
The Incredibles: Rise Of The Underminer (GC)
Future:
(GC) Egg Mania: Eggstreme Madness
(Wii) The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of The Unicorn
Mario Kart Wii 32 Track GP
