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Tested a few thing out in an all bosses run. I noticed the axe is really powerful for the first half of the game. Link to video
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Does the axe power increase when you're in that power up state? or do the axes do that much damage regardless?
[14:15] <feos> WinDOES what DOSn't 12:33:44 PM <Mothrayas> "I got an oof with my game!" Mothrayas Today at 12:22: <Colin> thank you for supporting noble causes such as my feet MemoryTAS Today at 11:55 AM: you wouldn't know beauty if it slapped you in the face with a giant fish [Today at 4:51 PM] Mothrayas: although if you like your own tweets that's the online equivalent of sniffing your own farts and probably tells a lot about you as a person MemoryTAS Today at 7:01 PM: But I exert big staff energy honestly lol Samsara Today at 1:20 PM: wouldn't ACE in a real life TAS just stand for Actually Cease Existing
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I don't think axes are effected by 4 beast mode, as can be seen here Link to video Apart from Galam, I'm not sure where 4 beast would save time in a TAS.
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Well I figured that I would need a subweapon drop at some point, but I had no idea the axe could be THAT powerful. it might even be better to use that instead of the Byakko for most boss fights.
[14:15] <feos> WinDOES what DOSn't 12:33:44 PM <Mothrayas> "I got an oof with my game!" Mothrayas Today at 12:22: <Colin> thank you for supporting noble causes such as my feet MemoryTAS Today at 11:55 AM: you wouldn't know beauty if it slapped you in the face with a giant fish [Today at 4:51 PM] Mothrayas: although if you like your own tweets that's the online equivalent of sniffing your own farts and probably tells a lot about you as a person MemoryTAS Today at 7:01 PM: But I exert big staff energy honestly lol Samsara Today at 1:20 PM: wouldn't ACE in a real life TAS just stand for Actually Cease Existing
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There's also Maria's energy ball attack that could save time if you can charge it for long enough.
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Just checked, I was wrong in that assertion.
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You can do a similar thing on this boss as well. Link to video
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Luckily for this category, there’s alot of places where you can get guaranteed sub weapon drops. Like one of the candles before the first boss gives an axe drop, I can grab that next time I pick up this game again.
[14:15] <feos> WinDOES what DOSn't 12:33:44 PM <Mothrayas> "I got an oof with my game!" Mothrayas Today at 12:22: <Colin> thank you for supporting noble causes such as my feet MemoryTAS Today at 11:55 AM: you wouldn't know beauty if it slapped you in the face with a giant fish [Today at 4:51 PM] Mothrayas: although if you like your own tweets that's the online equivalent of sniffing your own farts and probably tells a lot about you as a person MemoryTAS Today at 7:01 PM: But I exert big staff energy honestly lol Samsara Today at 1:20 PM: wouldn't ACE in a real life TAS just stand for Actually Cease Existing
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New trick discovered that would save time in both any% and MAB. Link to video
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How is this trick pulled off?
[14:15] <feos> WinDOES what DOSn't 12:33:44 PM <Mothrayas> "I got an oof with my game!" Mothrayas Today at 12:22: <Colin> thank you for supporting noble causes such as my feet MemoryTAS Today at 11:55 AM: you wouldn't know beauty if it slapped you in the face with a giant fish [Today at 4:51 PM] Mothrayas: although if you like your own tweets that's the online equivalent of sniffing your own farts and probably tells a lot about you as a person MemoryTAS Today at 7:01 PM: But I exert big staff energy honestly lol Samsara Today at 1:20 PM: wouldn't ACE in a real life TAS just stand for Actually Cease Existing
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You can see in the input display. One thing I will say is I managed to do a wrong warp and get further up the corridor, but can't figure out how to replicate it.
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alright, I am going to look into this today for any%. I have not ran Saturn on my new laptop yet but I'm 100% expecting it to run really slow.
[14:15] <feos> WinDOES what DOSn't 12:33:44 PM <Mothrayas> "I got an oof with my game!" Mothrayas Today at 12:22: <Colin> thank you for supporting noble causes such as my feet MemoryTAS Today at 11:55 AM: you wouldn't know beauty if it slapped you in the face with a giant fish [Today at 4:51 PM] Mothrayas: although if you like your own tweets that's the online equivalent of sniffing your own farts and probably tells a lot about you as a person MemoryTAS Today at 7:01 PM: But I exert big staff energy honestly lol Samsara Today at 1:20 PM: wouldn't ACE in a real life TAS just stand for Actually Cease Existing
Post subject: Need debuggers.
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Would anyone with debugging experience be able to look into the RNG for the grey flame? I have no experience with debugging and I’m not sure how good the one for Saturn is (assuming there even is one), and would like to know how to manipulate grey flames more easily. It would also be nice to know of RNG drops like the axe drop I get in the any% run.
[14:15] <feos> WinDOES what DOSn't 12:33:44 PM <Mothrayas> "I got an oof with my game!" Mothrayas Today at 12:22: <Colin> thank you for supporting noble causes such as my feet MemoryTAS Today at 11:55 AM: you wouldn't know beauty if it slapped you in the face with a giant fish [Today at 4:51 PM] Mothrayas: although if you like your own tweets that's the online equivalent of sniffing your own farts and probably tells a lot about you as a person MemoryTAS Today at 7:01 PM: But I exert big staff energy honestly lol Samsara Today at 1:20 PM: wouldn't ACE in a real life TAS just stand for Actually Cease Existing
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Just throwing out an idea. Don't know if this has potential Link to video
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It seems the Saturn version is now the fastest for doing Alucard runs. Faster than even the XBLA version. Due to a save corruption glitch, which involves starting as Maria. Going to the nearest savepoint. Soft resetting out and then opening a save file and magically starting off with Alucard who has all the abilities in the game. I imagine this would also make an All Bosses Alucard run faster as well. I'm still unclear as to how this exactly works, because I know it's unlikely the current record uses the optimal strategies. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/728842688
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OK, have the glitch fully figured out. You need to soft reset out after saving. Then select the saved file, and on selecting it soft reset out again, the select a new file and choose Alucard.
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Just linking the youtube ive got this info from for reference: Link to video and the dude in comments redirect to this: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/196885-castlevania-symphony-of-the-night/77346267 (I havent read everything but I dont think theres more to dig, I could be wrong tho) Edit: It is suggested this would work in reverse entrance as well, so maybe you have to get maria first in the second castle, shes much faster movement than alucard so it would make sence, the question is just does the extra ground to cover make it worth it. It is also suggested that everything carry over the soft reset, including your level/stats; what that mean is you can have a premade alucard lvl99 and one shoot dracula/shaft
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The RTA is now more refined. I was aware of the glitched warp in the throne room for quite some time, but never found a way to do it as Maria, which would save a lot of time if it does turn out to be possible. As of right now only 3 save locations near the beginning of the game work, with the one being used in RTA being the best candidate. I still think a Richter/Maria path would likely be faster with Alucard. You just need to find a convenient way of grabbing a powerful enough weapon to deal with the bosses. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/732487111
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Just showing you can do the glitched teleport as Maria, which would be a big time saver, but it appears to be a softlock. Alucard is the only one who can make use of it due to his mist ability. Link to video
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Here a run that does unlock replay mode (and use a similar strategy to what the real run would have), its gonna be necessary in order to skip shaft and dracula dialogues Link to video