Yeah it has been known for quite some times now.
I'm pretty sure it's not worth it TASwise.
Having Cloud named Ex-Soldie instead of C and Barret instead of B cost a couple of frames everytime their names appear, which add up in the long term.
Barret is level 1 so he can't crit against Guard Scorpion, which costs a bit of time also.
By the time you reach Shinra HQ, half the time saved is already lost.
More important, is that it's now possible to skip Cosmo Canyon without a Chocobo.
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EDIT : You actually barely make the elevator cycle, my bad.
Always fun to see a new commentated TAS of yours! I wonder what the known improvements are?
- Taking the Fire Ring in Costa del Sol basement instead of the Fire Armlet on the way in Gaea's Cliff, despite being a big detour, turns out to be faster because of the step route. It saves at least 3 seconds in total, but would completely change the main RNG.
- Having Dazers to be dropped by Boundfat instead of stealing it, would save around 2 seconds.
- In the corridor in Shinra's Mansion basement, you can exit by the bottom left instead of left, which saves 16 frames.
- I've also been pointed out that you can select 'don't go on' and manually go in the Golden Saucer ride which saves around 5 seconds.
Would it be faster, with the fire ring, to equip Cloud with the Dragon Armlet to half lightning in the Schizo fight? If the fight goes the same, you can skip using a hi-potion on him.
Amazing that the few steps required to get the Fire Armlet have such an impact on the step route tho.
idea for timesave: can you save some money before digging, and then use that to buy a weapon in Mideel to save you from having to spend 13k on soldiers in the fort condor minigame?
Would it be faster, with the fire ring, to equip Cloud with the Dragon Armlet to half lightning in the Schizo fight? If the fight goes the same, you can skip using a hi-potion on him.
Amazing that the few steps required to get the Fire Armlet have such an impact on the step route tho.
idea for timesave: can you save some money before digging, and then use that to buy a weapon in Mideel to save you from having to spend 13k on soldiers in the fort condor minigame?
Yes, that's why the Fire Ring saves time.
You can avoid the Hi-Potion against Schizo.
You can use the Wizard Bracelet against Stilva to use Comet.
But more importantly, you can fight the Stilva when you first encounter it.
The one I fight after the Fire Armlet is a forced encounter that is not necessary otherwise. I can avoid it with a menu glitch. This lose the most time.
For Fort Condor, you need at least 3k to start, so it's only 10k we want to get rid of, which is like 6 seconds iirc. I'd have to check in Mideel, but if it does save time it's gonna be very little.
Alright, I've made a new TAS, which saves a bit more than 20 minutes over my last attempt.
I'll let it on Youtube for now, but if in a couple of weeks, nobody has pointed out a big mistake, I'll submit it.
Enjoy!
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You should join the ff7 research discord and ask there if they can find any mistakes instead of waiting weeks for someone to comment on your video with a found mistake. I can pm you an invite if you want.
You should join the ff7 research discord and ask there if they can find any mistakes instead of waiting weeks for someone to comment on your video with a found mistake. I can pm you an invite if you want.
I don't really know how discord works but sure, I can try, thanks.
Ah rats; if you'd managed to shave off 18 minutes or so, I hear Cinna would have shown up in the Crater with the Eacali-Hammer II... that's how this series works right?
I haven't followed this project quite as closely as the FF9 one as the somewhat bizarre nature of what that one involved normally, let alone adding actually speedrunning it intrigued me more... but now that the chaos of the new year is over looking forward to watching this. After your previous work, I know it'll be a treat. I imagine I'll be back with questions, but 'grats on completing another bonkers long project Gecko!
It uses a more complex form of the kalm skip glitch that allows you to go directly from midgar to the city of the ancients. At the moment, it is only viable for TAS
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About a week ago LiGecko put that together! Very entertaining. Even midgar has new strategy. He steals a hardedge for cloud because it does more damage.
The schizo and jenova death battles are intense!
Jenova life was a little disappointing.. But still, it was rushed and is only a test speedrun.
