Kid Icarus Of Myth and Monsters is the direct sequel to the original Kid Icarus on NEs, releasing in 1991 in America and 1992 in Europe. It did not make its way to japan until 2012 with the 3ds virtual console release. I noticed this game did not have a TAS, so I decided to learn how to TAS with this game. This run saves around 3 minutes over the RTA WR by zorlax7.
I found 2 interesting TAS only techniques while making this run. The first is ladder jumping, where Pit has 1 frame of standing animation when exiting a ladder from the top of the screen, therefore you can then jump. Usually this wastes time because if you start the screen at the top odds are your next destination is below you, but I found a few uses for ladder jumping: optimal movement or avoiding enemies. The other tech I found was jumping past the screen scroll and above the screen. I could not make use of this tech because I did not know how to go about routing a level where I cannot see Pit or the level itself, but this is easily possible in 1-3, 3-1, and 3-2. You can tell where this is possible when I do mini jumps to scroll the screen more upwards in said levels, but optimal play would utilize this glitch to save frames.
Most my time save is from optimal movement and boss fights, with a 2 cycle Orcos phase 2 and 2 cycle minotaur. Most the time save off of this run would come from better platform manipulation, as I wasted a lot of time waiting, in 1-2 and 3-3 specifically and better health management in the earlygame. But overall I am happy with the run, and think it turn out quite well.
Recorded on Bizhawk 2.7 with gambatte core
Gb bios Gameboy boot ROM gb_bios.bin
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nymx: I was real happy to see this submission. Its been a long time coming, but we finally have a sequel to the NES version.
I spent a number of days reviewing areas, where optimization was in question. Basically, I've determined that the questionable strategies are more necessary than I originally thought. For example: various places where farming occurred, and HP replenishing in the health pools. Even though I've played this game and was very fond of it, I am still not familiar...in terms of speed running it. After comparing it with the WR run... I see that run has a edge over human effort. The end result is roughly 2 minutes and 50 seconds faster (give or take a few seconds).
Great job and congratulations on your first submission to TAS Videos.
Accepting to "Standard" for publication.

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This topic is for the purpose of discussing #8224: Sharpless_'s GB Kid Icarus: Of Myths and Monsters in 16:52.59
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The reason for your higher frame count, is that you didn't truncate your input file. I will take care of this, since I'm judging it. Just remember in the future to trim your movie before submitting.
I recently discovered that if you haven't reached a level of frustration with TASing any game, then you haven't done your due diligence. ---- SOYZA: Are you playing a game? NYMX: I'm not playing a game, I'm TASing. SOYZA: Oh...so its not a game...Its for real? ---- Anybody got a Quantum computer I can borrow for 20 minutes? Nevermind...eien's 64 core machine will do. :) ---- BOTing will be the end of all games. --NYMX
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nymx wrote:
The reason for your higher frame count, is that you didn't truncate your input file. I will take care of this, since I'm judging it. Just remember in the future to trim your movie before submitting.
I had no idea about this, thank you for doing it and i’ll be sure to truncate my inputs for future projects. Also thank you for all the great comments! The enemy farming aspect is for the strength upgrades, and happens in 1-2, 1-3, 2-1, 2-2, and 2-3. All of these levels i kill the minimum enemies to get the hidden point score at the required level, except 2-3, where it looks like i overgrinded a bit. So a future TAS would absolutely clean up the 2-3 grind. There also the idea of cutting out 1 of the strength upgrades, but im unsure if this will lose time due to slower boss fights. Health management was suboptimal in the early game. In retrospect i don't need the hotspring in labyrinth 1 or 2. The boss of labyrinth 1 deals 4 health over the fight, so if i could create a health drop after end the end of 1-3 grind or anywhere in labyrinth 1, that shouldn't be an issue skipping the hotspring. I also took damage in labyrinth 1 multiple times where I probably shouldnt’ve as well. Labyrinth 2’s hotspring is the most important one, because of all the damge boosting throught the cycle based spikes. Theoretically Pit should take 5 damage to spike cycles without the hotspring, plus if i really need health the finished run had an extra hammer, which i could use on a statue in labyrinth 2 for more health before the boss.
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This movie has been published. The posts before this message apply to the submission, and posts after this message apply to the published movie. ---- [5243] GB Kid Icarus: Of Myths and Monsters by Sharpless_ in 16:52.59