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Thank you for making a step-by-step guide for every type of games, with clear categories as for the Amiga ecs\egs\aga. It's clear that disk drives can be launched via bizhawk, but what about games that can be launched without hdd? Or with, how do you install them? The tutorial (https://tasvideos.org/Bizhawk/DOSBox) isn't clear. Launching Doom or a clone is easy, a wad etc dos game game is not.
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phoenix1291 wrote:
Thank you for making a step-by-step guide for every type of games, with clear categories as for the Amiga ecs\egs\aga. It's clear that disk drives can be launched via bizhawk, but what about games that can be launched without hdd? Or with, how do you install them? The tutorial (https://tasvideos.org/Bizhawk/DOSBox) isn't clear. Launching Doom or a clone is easy, a wad etc dos game game is not.
Hi, can you tell us exactly what game you're trying to run?
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I've tried Duke Nukem 1&2, The Secret of Monkey Island, Day of the Tentacle, Maniac Mansion, Commander Keen and some other classics. I also tried to write a tool that creates an hdd with the game installed via WSL2 with mcopy and mkfs.fat, it works fine, various tools recognize the created image as an hdd (21 to 2048 mb, fat16) dos, but bizhawk considers the image as empty or corrupted.
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phoenix1291 wrote:
I've tried Duke Nukem 1&2, The Secret of Monkey Island, Day of the Tentacle, Maniac Mansion, Commander Keen and some other classics. I also tried to write a tool that creates an hdd with the game installed via WSL2 with mcopy and mkfs.fat, it works fine, various tools recognize the created image as an hdd (21 to 2048 mb, fat16) dos, but bizhawk considers the image as empty or corrupted.
So, if I understand correctly. You are trying to install these games to a hard disk and run them from there? I did that for plenty of games already without an issue. Is this not properly explained in the "Hard Disk Drives (HDDs)" section of https://tasvideos.org/Bizhawk/DOSBox?
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eien86 wrote:
So, if I understand correctly. You are trying to install these games to a hard disk and run them from there? I did that for plenty of games already without an issue. Is this not properly explained in the "Hard Disk Drives (HDDs)" section of https://tasvideos.org/Bizhawk/DOSBox?
"You are trying to install these games to a hard disk and run them from there?", Yes. Could you describe step by step how you proceed? I must have missed something or not understood something. Thanks in advance. Following the instructions in the floppy section I tried with a game in floppy format (.img) yesterday (https://www.goodolddays.net/en/diskimages/?id=267 with this version King's Quest 2: Romancing the Throne (ID: 269)) I created an xml with the multidisk bundler, without mounting an hdd, but it gives me "Cannot create drive from file. Z:\>" Trying with an empty hdd mounted (21MB), "Cannot create drive from file. Image geometry auto detection: -size 512,17,4,615 Drive C is mounted as HardDiskDrive.img C:\>"
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phoenix1291 wrote:
eien86 wrote:
So, if I understand correctly. You are trying to install these games to a hard disk and run them from there? I did that for plenty of games already without an issue. Is this not properly explained in the "Hard Disk Drives (HDDs)" section of https://tasvideos.org/Bizhawk/DOSBox?
"You are trying to install these games to a hard disk and run them from there?", Yes. Could you describe step by step how you proceed? I must have missed something or not understood something. Thanks in advance. Following the instructions in the floppy section I tried with a game in floppy format (.img) yesterday (https://www.goodolddays.net/en/diskimages/?id=267 with this version King's Quest 2: Romancing the Throne (ID: 269)) I created an xml with the multidisk bundler, without mounting an hdd, but it gives me "Cannot create drive from file. Z:\>" Trying with an empty hdd mounted (21MB), "Cannot create drive from file. Image geometry auto detection: -size 512,17,4,615 Drive C is mounted as HardDiskDrive.img C:\>"
I just tried that game and installed it in the hard disk. It seems your configuration is correct, but I suspect your multi-disk bundle .xml file might not be. Here is mine:
<BizHawk-XMLGame System="DOS" Name="kq2">
  <LoadAssets>
    <Asset FileName="./disk1.img" />
    <Asset FileName="./disk2.img" />
  </LoadAssets>
</BizHawk-XMLGame>
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eien86 wrote:
I just tried that game and installed it in the hard disk. It seems your configuration is correct, but I suspect your multi-disk bundle .xml file might not be. Here is mine:
<BizHawk-XMLGame System="DOS" Name="kq2">
  <LoadAssets>
    <Asset FileName="./disk1.img" />
    <Asset FileName="./disk2.img" />
  </LoadAssets>
</BizHawk-XMLGame>
My XML with the Multidisk Bundler for this game: kings_quest_2_romancing_the_throne.xml
<BizHawk-XMLGame System="DOS" Name="kings_quest_2_romancing_the_throne">
  <LoadAssets>
    <Asset FileName="./000269-KingsQuest2RomancingTheThrone/000269_kings_quest_2_romancing_the_throne/disk1.img" />
    <Asset FileName="./000269-KingsQuest2RomancingTheThrone/000269_kings_quest_2_romancing_the_throne/disk2.img" />
  </LoadAssets>
</BizHawk-XMLGame>
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phoenix1291 wrote:
eien86 wrote:
I just tried that game and installed it in the hard disk. It seems your configuration is correct, but I suspect your multi-disk bundle .xml file might not be. Here is mine:
<BizHawk-XMLGame System="DOS" Name="kq2">
  <LoadAssets>
    <Asset FileName="./disk1.img" />
    <Asset FileName="./disk2.img" />
  </LoadAssets>
</BizHawk-XMLGame>
My XML with the Multidisk Bundler for this game: kings_quest_2_romancing_the_throne.xml
<BizHawk-XMLGame System="DOS" Name="kings_quest_2_romancing_the_throne">
  <LoadAssets>
    <Asset FileName="./000269-KingsQuest2RomancingTheThrone/000269_kings_quest_2_romancing_the_throne/disk1.img" />
    <Asset FileName="./000269-KingsQuest2RomancingTheThrone/000269_kings_quest_2_romancing_the_throne/disk2.img" />
  </LoadAssets>
</BizHawk-XMLGame>
Ok, can you please try with my xml? I suspect the long path you're using in yours is somehow causing problems.
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It's been a while since I created TASes in JPC-rr. Now I would like to try this DOSbox-X core in Bizhawk. But I'm confused by the instructions here. I have the game files, how do I create an .img or .hdd from those?
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eien86 wrote:
phoenix1291 wrote:
eien86 wrote:
I just tried that game and installed it in the hard disk. It seems your configuration is correct, but I suspect your multi-disk bundle .xml file might not be. Here is mine:
<BizHawk-XMLGame System="DOS" Name="kq2">
  <LoadAssets>
    <Asset FileName="./disk1.img" />
    <Asset FileName="./disk2.img" />
  </LoadAssets>
</BizHawk-XMLGame>
My XML with the Multidisk Bundler for this game: kings_quest_2_romancing_the_throne.xml
<BizHawk-XMLGame System="DOS" Name="kings_quest_2_romancing_the_throne">
  <LoadAssets>
    <Asset FileName="./000269-KingsQuest2RomancingTheThrone/000269_kings_quest_2_romancing_the_throne/disk1.img" />
    <Asset FileName="./000269-KingsQuest2RomancingTheThrone/000269_kings_quest_2_romancing_the_throne/disk2.img" />
  </LoadAssets>
</BizHawk-XMLGame>
Ok, can you please try with my xml? I suspect the long path you're using in yours is somehow causing problems.
I'm going to test with shorter paths as soon as I have time, as you suggest (or your xml). I'm not sure that will solve the problems. I'll also have to share my conversion tool, maybe there's a problem with the format or something?
MUGG wrote:
It's been a while since I created TASes in JPC-rr. Now I would like to try this DOSbox-X core in Bizhawk. But I'm confused by the instructions here. I have the game files, how do I create an .img or .hdd from those?
Yes, I think there really are points that could be made more explicit, especially if people don't know the system at all, (difference in format and how to launch a game, prerequisites (system, hdd or not, whether the game must be pre-installed or can be launched directly, clear steps, between floppy, cd-rom, hdd etc., how to install a game in a hdd, how to launch it afterwards, how to launch a game that doesn't require prior installation etc.), it sometimes took a lot of clarification with simpler cores like the ZX Spectrum or the C64. A clearer tutorial than "there are several formats, you have to choose a machine according to the release date of the game, there are supported or unsupported systems, but you have to find out how it works (without giving links or anything else that would conflict with intellectual property rights, of course).
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