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  • Recorded with FCEU latest version by nitsuja
  • Heavily manipulates luck
  • Aims for shortest input length

Strategy

  • H:1+1=Community Chest; +$200
  • H:3+5=Visit jail
  • C:1+5=Oriental Avenue
  • H:3+3=St. James Place
  • H:1+1=Tennessee Avenue
  • H:1+3=Chance; New York Avenue
  • H:Purchase 11 houses starting with St. James Place
  • End Input
  • C:5+5=St. James Place
  • C:1+2=New York avenue
This is basically Acmlm’s strategy but with one minor change. Instead of sending the computer to visit jail, I determined that it saved several frames to send him to Oriental Avenue instead.

Luck Manipulation Frame Delays

  • 5+8=13 frames to manipulate the chance/community chest cards.
  • 4+0=4 frames to manipulate the 1st roll of dice (Community Chest)
  • 3+0=3 frames to manipulate the 2nd roll of dice (Visit jail)
  • 0+3=3 frames to manipulate the 3rd roll of dice (Oriental Avenue)
  • 0+7=7 frames to manipulate the 4th roll of dice (St. James Place)
  • 0+7=7 frames to manipulate the 5th roll of dice (Tennessee Avenue)
  • 1+5=6 frames to manipulate the 6th roll of dice (Chance)
  • 4+6=10 frames to manipulate the computer player’s final turn
  • Total amount of frames delayed (53)
There are so many variables when it comes to manipulating luck that a human is most likely incapable of searching through them all. For every action you perform at any given time, it will affect the outcome of things hundreds of frames down the road.


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Regarding the question of whether these movies should be submitted or just posted in the forums, I think there is something that can be said for submitting them - namely, the fact that submitted movies are mentioned in the site's RSS feed, which makes it easier to keep up with submissions. So as long as the movies are actually complete and reasonably optimised (to the point where they *could* be published), I don't see anything wrong with submitting them. Just my two aurar. ;)
nesrocks
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Since we are on this off-topic, i'll have to say that i rushed to submit kickmaster movies before extensively testing them. Result: many submissions in a week. Something i'm not proud of and i plan to think better from now on.
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I suppose hacking the game apart and delivering mathematical proof that a movie is the fastest possible solution is the only way to satisfy the complainers. At the time of submission the submitter obviously expects his run to be the fastest possible solution and the day after someone else manages to think up a way to improve it, even in a separate thread you'd never know when a solution is perfect.
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Wow, go Hero! You know I have to yes this, the frame delays are almost nil, that's great.
Soft Blue Dragon
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Check out the rules topic, I edited the rules to make it an official forum rule that Monopoly wars involving 3 Monopoly submissions per day are cool! Now no one is allowed to complain anymore! *waits 10 seconds* Um, just kidding, but we can still consider it an unofficial rule. :)
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KDR_11k wrote:
At the time of submission the submitter obviously expects his run to be the fastest possible solution
Exactly, which is why it is allright to submit these movies.
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KDR_11k wrote:
I suppose hacking the game apart and delivering mathematical proof that a movie is the fastest possible solution is the only way to satisfy the complainers. At the time of submission the submitter obviously expects his run to be the fastest possible solution and the day after someone else manages to think up a way to improve it, even in a separate thread you'd never know when a solution is perfect.
Looks like Acmlm did just that, see submission 1011
JXQ
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It would have been neat if hero of the day had the longest and shortest published runs!
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Did you read my mind JXQ? That was my original goal :)
They're off to find the hero of the day...