This topic is for the purpose of discussing #1018: Atma's GBA Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow in 06:23.43

Neat stuff, wish there'll be more SRAM movies as a result.

I dunno about this movie. It's flawless in every aspect, except for one. No, not the matter of the SRAM thing. That's perfectly fine in this case.(Call it an "appendenture" to the original submission.) No, what I'm talking about is the fact that you used a glitch that was a little above your average glitch. I'm not too sure about the Cathedral glitch being alright... I'm probably just being paranoid, though. Despite my worries, I'm gonna vote Yes. My Vote: Yes Why?: 'cause as far as I can see, it's as flawless as possible. The two boss fights didn't take long at all and the final battle with Graham was kind of fun to watch, despite its length. Anything Else?: Nothing I can think of.

not much to say about the run, except 'yes vote'. Usage of the glitch added a surprise and variety to this boss-fight-biased mode and skips some of the slow walking, so I agree on the usage on julius mode. I don't mean to influence anyone on what run to work on next, or anything, but... /me whistles innocently and slowly walks away..

Well done. It's fast, it has a cool zipping glitch and it's castlevania. An easy yes.

Aw, no hard mode?

Doesn't the jumpkick have higher horizontal speed than normal walking? Seems like that to me. As long as your kicks land on enemies or candles it should be faster to move that way (especially since you can do a new kick after kicking something). Or am I missing something?

Doesn't the jumpkick have higher horizontal speed than normal walking? Seems like that to me. As long as your kicks land on enemies or candles it should be faster to move that way (especially since you can do a new kick after kicking something). Or am I missing something?

I did notice that (rather late at that), but I'm not even sure where I would've began trying to optimize something like that, as it has a ton of different possibilities going for it, so I decided against it for visual smoothness. Bag: I covered that one in the submission text, so just browse over the first paragraph. Tub: hahaha, I'll be back on it soon, dont worry.

Yes from me. Never hear from this glitch before or see it. Nice one. And looks great played and fast only the last Boss takes so long.

Overall this run was not entertaining for me to watch. Besides the glitch, this almost looked like a normal speedrun. Julius's moves may destroy the bosses quickly, but when it's done by the cross's special ability or a couple boomerangs, that isn't impressive to watch for me. A bummer, because I really like the Soma run.

Voting no, because I'm staunchly opposed to using SRAM. edit: I DID watch it, and it was enjoyable. Still, the vote stands. edit2: graham 2 has some big flaws that Atma is too lazy to fix.

(not voting -- cannot watch movie at the moment, check back later.) However, I will comment on this -- there's no reason to go against the use of SRAM in this movie. Why? 1. Bisqwit has given it permission. 2. It continues from the previous run of this game. Technically, it would be exactly like saving, then turning the game on again... if SRAM can't be used, I fear for the idea I have upcoming. (meh) EDIT - - - Judging from the conversation by you (Zurreco) in the IRC channel, it seems an awful lot like Zurreco is trying to get this submission rejected for the sole reason it uses SRAM (blowing problems out of proportion -- e.g, making it out like Atma is simply lazy, and not busy and/or taking a break from this game to improve another run) by use of propoganda... constantly remarking things like "now no one will accept this -- NO ONE" when editing his post, etc. Take this information as you wish.

Well at a combination of Xkeeper and Zurreco's opinions and such from IRC, I'm going to test out a different boss strategy and an alternate path (which I'm highly doubting will actually be faster, but still) on this one. If it turns out to be faster (and potentially more entertaining), I'll cancel this one and submit a new one.

Regardless, voting yes -- Atma provided me with a low-qual AVI and I could watch it :) (I couldn't spot anything in the boss fight... though the hands may still be manipulatable)

No hard mode. :(

THe run looked truely nice, and as you've described in the movie description, it's bad-ass :P However, i have my doubts about using the axe against Graham3 instead of the holy cross. Is the holy cross really slower? I know it takes up a big chunk of MP, but it also does a great deal of damage towards Graham. I'll vote after i've gotten your anwser.

THe run looked truely nice, and as you've described in the movie description, it's bad-ass :P However, i have my doubts about using the axe against Graham3 instead of the holy cross. Is the holy cross really slower? I know it takes up a big chunk of MP, but it also does a great deal of damage towards Graham. I'll vote after i've gotten your anwser.

By holy cross do you mean the blue one I throw at the creaking skull in the beginning, or the one i use against the manticore? here's how things work out: Julius has 500 MP, and 4 'spells'. Holy water, axe, cross, grand cross. Holy water takes 10 mp, and is completely ineffective against graham. Axe takes 12 mp, and does 35 damage per axe, and can only hit once per throw Cross takes 25 mp, and at most can deal 3 hits for 13 damage each, for a total of 26-39, but requires me to go next to the doors to get the three hits in, otherwise its 2. Grand cross takes 150 mp and deals 6 hits of 22, for a total of 132 damage. Given this, were i to use 3 grand crosses, I'd get a massive 396 damage out of it, and would have to spend almost the rest of the time whipping, which woudl take ages. i use somewhere in the range of 35-38 axes (not sure on exact number right now), which deals a total of 1225-1330, for only slightly higher overall cost to that of three grand crosses. Given that Julius' mp doesn't recover as somas does, you cant get more out of it than whats available, and thus axes are the best choice for damage vs mp consumption (since whipping is done inbetween and does 17 damage per hit to fill out grahams health, as he has 2000 hp in his second form). I think that should cover your question :)

Voted yes :)

Nice, but too short. Graham part was a bit boring (especially before he started to shoot those magma balls), but aside from that, there weren't any really dull moments. Besides, Julius's musical theme is my favourite. :) 'Yes' for a clean execution, but I can't say it entertained me much.

Axe takes 12 mp, and does 35 damage per axe, and can only hit once per throw

I have some issues with this statement, but I'm not able to get on IRC and talk to you, Atma. I think its possible to hit 2 times, if not 3, with the axe.

Axe takes 12 mp, and does 35 damage per axe, and can only hit once per throw

I have some issues with this statement, but I'm not able to get on IRC and talk to you, Atma. I think its possible to hit 2 times, if not 3, with the axe.

I checked this out a bit on several bosses, and not one of them I could get to receive two hits from an axe. An axe hits graham 2 on the very first possible frame for damage. However, since the axe hits on the lowest possible point of the arc on the way down, I can throw one sooner, pretty much right when i hit the ground. Even with this benefit of early throwing however, i checked this before, and again just now, and its 61 frames before i can actually deal a second hit with the axe. I guess they did it that way because of the strength of the axe, similar to how you can only throw one at a time.

There's absolutely no way for the Axe to hit Graham 2 for 3 hits. Given the way that the area for taking damage is setup, the axe could only possibly hit it twice. It would need a larger vertical nature to be able to hit it 3 times. I see nothing wrong with the way SRAM was used. In fact, I'd like to see it used this way more often *AHEM*ActRaiserProfessional!*COUGH* Great run. Voting YES.