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Posted: 4/6/2006 6:03 PM
Post subject: Ghosts n Goblins
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AngerFist
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Im currently testing to see if I can produce a good run for this game. One question for Arc, how did you make the first zombie to appear near the first grave? I have tried starting the game a few frames later to manipulate luck and also tried moving forward once the game have started a bit later without any luck. I think the two basic things you only need to know about this run is to try avoiding jumping and shooting because they slow you down a bit. (By the way, I could not find this thread and therefore created this. If there already is one, please remove my post there).
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
Posted: 4/6/2006 11:30 PM
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Pasky13
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Not sure what he did, but you could always watch his movie and turn input display on and frame display and see what he pressed during whichever frame.
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Posted: 4/7/2006 1:16 AM
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nesrocks
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i think both runs should be played differently, like i suggested on the snes one. try pacifist on one, and all out speed on the other, or something different, since pacifist in this game is impossible.
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Posted: 4/7/2006 2:00 AM
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Phil
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Angerfist: That's probably differences in emulation, Famtasia vs. FCEU.
Posted: 4/7/2006 5:06 AM
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Pasky13 wrote:
you could always watch his movie and turn input display on and frame display and see what he pressed during whichever frame.
Easier said than done since Arc's run was made with Famtasia :)
Posted: 4/7/2006 5:08 AM
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Bag_of_Magic_Food
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May as well check it in one of those movie file viewers/editors people are coming up with these days.
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Posted: 4/7/2006 5:38 AM
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Kyrsimys
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Now that I think about it more, it would be really interesting to see whether the exact same input at the exact same frames would give a different result in Famtasia than in FCEU. It might give an idea of how big a difference there can be between the two emulators.
Posted: 4/7/2006 8:03 AM
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Phil wrote:
Angerfist: That's probably differences in emulation, Famtasia vs. FCEU.
I think you are 100% right Phil :( I tried a lot last night making the first zombie appear like Arc's run but it seems its impossible... Oh well, lets see what happens now.
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
Posted: 4/7/2006 5:32 PM
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Arc
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I'm currently making a new Ghosts 'n Goblins movie.
Posted: 4/7/2006 5:38 PM
(Edited: 4/8/2006 10:12 AM)
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AngerFist
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Arc wrote:
I'm currently making a new Ghosts 'n Goblins movie.
I'll tell you what, I will post a.s.a.p of my test WIP for this game and if you would like, you could give me feedback and to determine if I should stop or not depending on how well you do. I haven't decided if Im going to give this run a 100% shot, its just fun doing a testrun for this game as its pretty challenging and fun.
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
Posted: 4/8/2006 9:30 AM
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AngerFist
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Hey Arc and others. Here is my test WIP for level 1. What do you guys think? Is it ok? Am I too much behind? I reached the conclusion that you neither gain or lose any frames when you get hit, in other words, its equally fast to not get hit and get hit. Im sure Arc will find flaws in my testrun. Note that I had a lot more liberty to do more stuff compared with my regular knife. Here is My Test WIP
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
Posted: 4/8/2006 6:30 PM
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Arc
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It looks like it's about equal with the Famtasia run so far. Level 2 and thereafter is a lot more difficult though. And I have a few new plans. I think taking the flame early is a mistake. Its lack of range is a problem.
Posted: 4/8/2006 10:34 PM
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AngerFist
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Arc wrote:
I think taking the flame early is a mistake. Its lack of range is a problem.
Yes but as you saw in my test wip, I did not have any problem handling it. In fact, as I stated before, it is in some cases more convenient. Edit:
Arc wrote:
It looks like it's about equal with the Famtasia run so far.
Are you implying you've done faster than me and your former run for the first level? If yes then I'll stop working on this.
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
Posted: 4/9/2006 2:56 AM
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Arc
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So far I've been testing ideas in various sections of the game. I haven't started making the movie. I don't really know why you're making this run.
Posted: 4/9/2006 8:12 AM
(Edited: 4/10/2006 3:49 PM)
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AngerFist
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Arc wrote:
I don't really know why you're making this run.
I don't understand you. Not that I need to explain myself but why do you think Im making this run? Why is the sky blue, why cannot pigs fly, why? Do you have copyright of this run? Arent we allowing competition? This argument could turn out ugly so therefore I wont do anymore work on this, because we do not want that, do we?
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
Posted: 4/9/2006 8:15 AM
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Bag_of_Magic_Food
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Because it might be improved by a little bit!
put yourself in my rocketpack if that poochie is one outrageous dude
Posted: 4/10/2006 3:45 PM
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Pasky13
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Arc wrote:
I don't really know why you're making this run.
*Looks at site name* I thought it was pretty obvious why....
I think.....therefore I am not Barry Burton
Posted: 8/9/2006 11:23 PM
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How can you make the shield appear in Level 4 on the bridge? Ive killed the demon so many different ways and done different jumps and such.
Change my sig. again, and I will murder your pet fish.
Posted: 8/9/2006 11:34 PM
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Morrison
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Any chance your runs are going to be full?
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Posted: 8/9/2006 11:38 PM
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i found out how to get the shield, be full?
Change my sig. again, and I will murder your pet fish.
Posted: 8/9/2006 11:39 PM
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Morrison
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GuanoBowl wrote:
be full?
You have to play through the game twice in order to see the ending and 'officially' finish it. The current TAS on the site for this game only plays through once.
twitch.tv/Retrogaming2084
Posted: 8/10/2006 7:35 AM
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oh yeah, I was thinking about that, that is the official end of the game. hmm.
Change my sig. again, and I will murder your pet fish.
Posted: 8/10/2006 7:02 PM
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AngerFist
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Just saw your WIP G'Bowl. Interesting and quite good route. I only got one concern, did you test for the first boss to stand closer or to jump towards it as you are shooting at it so your shots will connect quicker? I think it should be slightly faster, no?
Nitrogenesis wrote:
Guys I come from the DidyKnogRacist communite, and you are all wrong, tihs is the run of the mileniun and everyone who says otherwise dosnt know any bater! I found this run vary ease to masturbate too!!!! Don't fuck with me, I know this game so that mean I'm always right!StupedfackincommunityTASVideoz!!!!!!
Arc wrote:
I enjoyed this movie in which hands firmly gripping a shaft lead to balls deep in multiple holes.
natt wrote:
I don't want to get involved in this discussion, but as a point of fact C# is literally the first goddamn thing on that fucking page you linked did you even fucking read it
Cooljay wrote:
Mayor Haggar and Cody are such nice people for the community. Metro City's hospitals reached an all time new record of incoming patients due to their great efforts :P
Posted: 3/20/2007 6:27 AM
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Arc
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Ok, after being stuck for a long time, I finally solved the level-2 double-boss battle. I'm using the torch instead of the javelin, because I've found that there's a particular area at which it leads to noticeable time-saving. But, a consequence is that it was very difficult to match Guano's speed and range with the javelin against the two bosses at the end of level 2. I finally found a strategy that defeated them 3 frames faster than Guano did. After two levels, I'm 193 frames (3.2 sec) ahead of the current movie. I have an idea for improving level 3, although it might not work. Level 6 also might have a notable improvement.
Posted: 4/15/2007 3:56 AM
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Arc
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Level 3 is done. My plan for improving level 3 worked. I'm 397 frames (6.62 sec) faster than the published movie.
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