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Gorash wrote:
primorial#soup wrote:
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sub p{@_?map{my$e=$_;map[$e,@$_],p(grep{$e ne$_}@_)}@_:0}map{print"@$_"}p@F
def f(n,v=[]):
 if[f([j for j in n if j!=i],v+[i])for i in n]==n:print v
Usage: >>> f(list) 4 bytes shorter including line break and indentation ;)
I don't know Python (don't like the concept of indenting as block syntax), so how do you actually use this from command line? Note how the perl version also does the parsing of arguments and intial invocation of the recursion.
You have to invoke it yourself, that is just the function definition. (Invoke it like f([1, 2, 3])) Parsing the arguments would take a bit more of work. At least, importing sys and invoking sys.argv, like:
import sys
def f(n, v=[]):
 if[f([j for j in n if j!=i],v+[i])for i in n]==n:print v
f(map(int, sys.argv))
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Dacicus wrote:
xebra wrote:
No, it's built into the language. It doesn't require the loading of any packages like <<DiscreteMath`Combinatorica`.
I interpreted Gorash's challenge to mean that you were supposed to write your own permutation function/procedure/etc.
That's how I believe he meant for it to be interpreted, as well, but I think it is our responsibility to punish him for insufficiently detailed instructions and an insufficiently limited context. In the Mathematica Programming Language, Permutation[] is not a package. <<DiscreteMath`Combinatorica` is, but luckily you don't need it!
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xebra wrote:
Dacicus wrote:
xebra wrote:
No, it's built into the language. It doesn't require the loading of any packages like <<DiscreteMath`Combinatorica`.
I interpreted Gorash's challenge to mean that you were supposed to write your own permutation function/procedure/etc.
That's how I believe he meant for it to be interpreted, as well, but I think it is our responsibility to punish him for insufficiently detailed instructions and an insufficiently limited context. In the Mathematica Programming Language, Permutation[] is not a package. <<DiscreteMath`Combinatorica` is, but luckily you don't need it!
In the context of this challenge, the Mathematica Programming Language is a package.
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Punish... what a hard word. I'd just say that it's your responsibility to read my mind before you come up with easy mode solutions. :)
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Something that bugs me...
y=50*x*1.1^x
how do you solve for x? :/
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kwinse wrote:
y=50*x*1.1^x
how do you solve for x? :/
In general, this has no elementary solution. Using the Lambert W function, the solution can be expressed as W((1/50)*y*log(1.1))/log(1.1). But the best idea is to solve it numerically.
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Well, thanks, so much for not frying my spreadsheet if I ever get what I want implemented...
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I got one (It's not really a problem but more of a question that I want an answer to): Why is it that x^2-1=(x+1)*(x-1) ?
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It's just what you get when you factor it. Or are you asking about how to factor?
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Swedishmartin wrote:
I got one (It's not really a problem but more of a question that I want an answer to): Why is it that x^2-1=(x+1)*(x-1) ?
Because (x+1)*(x-1) = X^2 + 1*x - 1*x + (-1*1) = X^2-1 You could also explain it visually: (x-a)(x+a) = x^2-a^2. Basically, take a square that is length x by x, and subtract an arbitrary length, and add the same arbitrary length to each side (x-a) and (x+a) repectively. Compare the two areas (x^2 and (x-a)(x+a), and you'll see that x^2 is larger than (x-a)(x+a) by an amount of a^2. Edit: I made an image
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Oh, I got a question! Found this in my math text and couldn't quite solve it even until now: The positive integers a and b, where a<b, satisfy the equation a^b=b^a Show that there is only 1 possible value for a and one for b, and find these values. Couldn't quite do the first part, though the second one came almost intuitively. PS. for the answer of the second part: a=2, b=4 edit: the answer was still quite visible on tiny, so I coloured it out :)
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a^b = b^a (a < b, a and b are integers) b = a^k (k>1) a^(a^k) = (a^k)^a (=a^(ak)) ak = a^k a = k^(1/k-1) so k^(1/k-1) should be integer with k>1... but (k^(1/k-1)) when increasing k goes to 1 from above, and the ony integer value it takes is 2 (you can build graph (y(x) = x^(1/x-1)) and see yourself) a = 2 ^ (1/(2-1)) = 2 b = 2^2 = 4 so, a ^ b = b ^ a only when a = 2 and b = 4 or b = 2 and a = 4 P.S. Thanks, solving this question was quite interesting )
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That's an interesting solution... yay i finally can submit my assignment haha.
but (k^(1/k-1)) when increasing k goes to 1 from above, and the ony integer value it takes is 2 (you can build graph (y(x) = x^(1/x-1)) and see yourself)
Though I personally hope that there is another way of working around this. It doesn't really look very convincing, unless of course i use graphamatica. Any other solutions? Thanks zefiris anyway, you showed me how to proceed past a=k^(1/k-1) :)
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Okay let's prove that k^(1/(k-1)) takes only one integer value when k>1 f(k) = k^((k-1)^-1) lim f(k) = e k -> 1 lim f(k) = 1 k -> infinity f'(k) = -k^(k-2) * (k-1)^-3 k>1 -> k^(k-2) > 0 k>1 -> (k-1)^-3 > 0 f'(k) < 0 when k > 1 therefore it takes values from e downto 1 always decreasing. We can conclude it takes values from range (1;e). 2 is the only integer there.
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Prove that no number on the sequence: 5 15 115 1115 ... (and so on) can be divided by seven.
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DrJones wrote:
Prove that no number on the sequence: 5 15 115 1115 ... (and so on) can be divided by seven.
It's simple... N1 = 5 N1 mod 7 = 5 Nn = (Nn-1 - 4) * 10 + 5 Nn = 10*Nn-1 - 35 35 mod 7 = 0 10*Nn-1 can not be divided by 7 as Nn-1 can not and 10 can not 10*Nn-1 mod 7 = (10*Nn-1 - 35) mod 7 therefore for any n Nn can not be divided by 7
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zefiris: your method is sort of an induction right? not sure about your notation(function?) mod; when you use it, the value it presents is the remainder of the quotient, am I right? Nice solution though. I like how you make easy work of our questions haha. Alright, let's now take a break from all our brain wrecking math, and chill with some math humor. Enjoy :)
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xoinx wrote:
chill with some math humor. Enjoy :)
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xoinx wrote:
zefiris: your method is sort of an induction right?
I think this method is called induction, right )
not sure about your notation(function?) mod; when you use it, the value it presents is the remainder of the quotient, am I right?
correct. "mod" is used to get remainder from division in pascal. I didn't know what symbol should I use so I used one I was used to )
Nice solution though. I like how you make easy work of our questions haha.
Thanks ) I like mathematics (^_^)v
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eh... anyone care to try? :)
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zefiris wrote:
I think this method is called induction, right )
Mathematical induction, right.
zefiris wrote:
correct. "mod" is used to get remainder from division in pascal. I didn't know what symbol should I use so I used one I was used to )
You could also use the notation N1 ≡ 5 (mod 7).
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xoinx wrote:
eh... anyone care to try? :)
[Nevermind, found it out] I've got this one I think. Expect an update tomorrow.
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(1 week later) So where's that update?
That's what she said!
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Haha... Wonder where MahaTma is. Busy with his own life I guess? Anyway, I've got another question, which probably most people here would probably be more familiar than I am. Can the binary number system denote all integers? And is there some form of reasoning behind it?
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