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ah ok, sorry
is it not possible to start recording from wherever you want? and I noticed after movie playback, even when it's finished you don't get control over the game, why is that?
I always get that problem with nico, too… hate that site
after 3 refreshes I got to watch it though, pretty amazing, I remember a vid just a few days ago of a failed attempt at that from someone on YT
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nitsuja wrote:
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the movie file freezes for a couple seconds wherever I used savestates
That's simply re-saving dead savestates in case you want to load them again later, which takes whatever usual brief moment it takes for you to make a savestate. Other people won't see that, and you won't see it either if you restart Hourglass or if you choose "Delete All Savestates" in the "Runtime > Performance" menu.
I think you didn't understand, I meant during movie playback, not recording
but I've just encoded my run and it didn't give that problem, I don't know if it was because I was dumping avi or if it's fixed now...
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here's a horrible encode: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqqiYizrCpA
@Personman: it's not true that you keep full speed by simply pressing a direction, there is acceleration so running against a wall while falling down / jumping up is slower, the first level is very improvable on that (haven't checked second)
edit: something that might be entertaining at the end of lvl1 could be jumping up and get hit by the shuriken and getting bumped into the finish door without losing time (it might even save time if taking damage boosts you, I haven't tested); but looking at your encode it doesn't seem possible to do it, shuriken is too far ahead
if you're going to remake lvl1/2, here's what I think can be improved (other than not running against walls, and jumping down ledges because walking down is slower):
0:47 of your YT vid: try using a double jump to get up there, instead of jumping twice
1:28: looks like you got slowed down by the ledge there, jumped too late
boss: try a single big jump to start attacking sooner, then double jump to get on the top platform
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nitsuja wrote:
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while that is fixed, the screen now seems to be dying for a frame
Which frame is that? As soon as you hit load, or after frame advancing once from there? It goes back to normal afterward? Does it happen at the start of the first level or only in certain places? Does it happen even if you save and then load on the same frame? Are you using the latest version of the game now?
I don't remember well, but I think I had it after advancing 3 frames after a loadstate, and it happened pretty much always, that game seems to have a lot of graphics problems, when you loadstate it often keeps a superimposed image of a part of the screen it had before the loadstate too (different to what it did before, this one actually lasts I think forever until you loadstate again). about the picture, it only lasts 1 frame. haven't tried saving and reloading the same frame. I've always been using the latest version, Personman uses (used?) an older one
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and I'm cucrrently writing this blindfolded by the game's window because it will givean error sound if I try to move it...
This game in particular has a bunch of weird issues with the window that don't show up in any other games that I've seen, but this issue doesn't happen for me. Is this only when the game is paused, or even when it's unpaused? Does it make a difference if you check and then uncheck the "Topmost" checkbox (and unpause the game)? What OS are you using again? (XP SP3?)
I think it was happening because Firefox opened a pop-up in the background and it somehow broke everything. paused or unpaused made no difference. haven't tried that. yes, XP SP3 (it also has a "professional" in between)
also I encountered another problem while TASing it, the movie file freezes for a couple seconds wherever I used savestates: the movie if you want to check, it's on stage 3
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that took… 5 hours?!? how's that even possible O_o
and 1100~ rerecords later… Stage 3 is done
note that at least for me, the movie freezes in every place I used a savestate for a few seconds… I don't know why
anyway, I don't know if I want to continue this, this game is incredibly hard to TAS (for my standards at least)… if I don't post otherwise I won't be doing more levels
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nitsuja wrote:
There's a new version. It deals with the following reported issues:
ALAKTORN wrote:
when I loadstate the screen doesn't refresh, and I have to advance 1 frame to refresh it (making it very unprecise)
while that is fixed, the screen now seems to be dying for a frame
edit: also another problem is that I can't unpause with spacebar for some reason, it pauses but doesn't unpause; and I'm cucrrently writing this blindfolded by the game's window because it will givean error sound if I try to move it...
edit2: ok the tpause unpause problem was conflicting hotkeys <_<
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sounds sweet, I'll try level 3, dropping the coins goal
edit: I currently have the game's window blocking my view (read dev topic), anyway just wanted to say that moving backwards while in the air slows you down by 1 pixel, so it probably can't be abused like in say SMB :(
max run/jump speed is 1.5 pixels (1, 2, 1, 2 ecc)
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I've hexed together a perfect (should be) menu to your run, 35 frames saved total, I think
http://www.mediafire.com/?pe5o77t6akoa5zp
and I noticed that you don't press away the time-to-score screen at the end of each level (just need to hold a key I think), that could also be hexed but I didn't feel like it because seriously I had no idea how to do it and it took me a lot just to put the menu together
I hope I have a better understanding of it for any future hexing now, this game looks like it could be highly hex-friendly
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is it possible to hex edit movie files? I usually use WordPad, but trying to open a .wtf (oh god only now noticed, was it intentional? XD) with it doesn't produce good results
should I change program or what?
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I'm not sure how to work together through the forum, and with movie files that aren't hexable
also the fact that I don't like the "All Coins" goal for pretty much what you said about highscore, loses time and doesn't demonstrate anything new
I might start my own run that goes for pure speed, though I don't know what running method to use, that constant jumping you do seems boring to TAS
edit: I take that back, it's possible to hex input, then if we were to team up I guess each one could do a level? then hex it all together
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wow, seriously? what's the point then… *tests* but you're right…
edit: btw, I seem to have saved 31 frames just at the starting menu compared to your run, nitsuja was right
edit2: but honestly I'm curious to know what the maxed score (without lame tricks) would be, it's too bad this game isn't programmed properly :( have you certainly tested that Boss 6 keeps on spawning infinite enemies and that they keep on giving you points? (I don't actually remember which it is, but I'm guessing that one that spams Ninja that give 1 point each?)
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the new wallclimbing technique is awesome! does it work in the ZX series?
edit: thought it was already published, obvious yes vote!
to remind myself on what to vote: 9.1 entertainment 8.3 tech
