It can be done any level where there is a sliding blue koopa, pokey, or dino rhino (secret exit). I don't think the dino rhino would be used though to save time.. considering keys are usually found near keyholes anyway.
If I am not mistaken, there're only 3 levels (the 2 of the video and Valley of Bowser 4) in where this can be done and save time. I'm in favour of using this in the run because it's awesome and can't be transferred to another level like the chuck-eat glitch.
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It's a public tweet, then I don't think it's problematic to post it here. They have started the TAS:
https://twitter.com/joshtas/status/213366189227909120
And I'm glad they didn't use the chuck glitch to skip the castle 1.
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Mister wrote:
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The game resources' description is quite confusing and simplist. The duplication doesn't depend only on the position of the block and the coordinates of the projectile at the instance Mario throws it. For instance, it seems that Mario's position also interferes. I am not very sure of the exact conditions, but the image shows (a bit) the distance you should throw the shell...
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You're half right. The position of an item you hold depends on mario's position of course, so mario's position does interfere implicitly. But once you give the item a correct y-subposition, to control the item's position would be equivalent to controlling mario's position. Any condition on mario's position is superfluous and thus omitted from the description.
The shell's coordinates really "follow" Mario's, when he is holding it. However, the following can happen... Notice that, until the 4th frame of each column, the (x, y) of the shell is identical. They only differ after.
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CONCLUSION: Mario's intrinsic movement affects it OR the frame (in which the collision happens) changes the hitboxes properties.
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The game resources' description is quite confusing and simplist. The duplication doesn't depend only on the position of the block and the coordinates of the projectile at the instance Mario throws it. For instance, it seems that Mario's position also interferes. I am not very sure of the exact conditions, but the image shows (a bit) the distance you should throw the shell...
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Wow, you totally break the already broken game.
However, it uses a non-standard ending and doesn't face the last boss. I think it should not compete with the other submissions.
Easy YES vote, despite the lack of entertaining factor...
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Mister wrote:
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And you could have saved a frame, by pressing "select" at the introduction, instead of "A">"B">"A">etc.
I tested that, but strange frame rule prevents us from saving a frame. I now feel that most of our know-how to handle something like frame rule or lag management, is more or less useless on 1.51...
I tested it too now and got the same result...
But what about the fadout lag?
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Again, this?
http://tasvideos.org/3084S.html
And you could have saved a frame, by pressing "select" at the introduction, instead of "A">"B">"A">etc.
Nevermind, SNES9x 1.43 is different.
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JXQ wrote:
Did you always get both Kongs after beating a bonus level? I don't remember that but it's been a while since I've played this.
I caught myself wondering the same question!
As far as I have watched, the submission deserves a big "yes". Many WTF's were exclamed during the movie...
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Masterjun wrote:
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And the same author, Masterjun, suggested on youtube that he was going to optimize antas' recent discovery.
Masterjun3 on YouTube wrote:
time to recreate this^^
where did you see that "optimize"? :P
i think i wont be the one who optimize and submit it.
i just try to recreate it, but its like 29.4 times harder than in YI3. i worked on this recreation since the smv was published and i just had to redo anything the 4th time. i still not did it.
since it isnt possible to do that on the console, i think it would get rejected
Well, I thought you would recreate his path, but optimizing where he didn't, as he didn't care about being as fast as possible... sorry. But is it that complicated, requiring frame perfection in every single act?
And how could someone know if Y13 works on console, while YI2 doesn't?
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Awesome as hell. If we hadn't already published the YI3 glitched ending, I would argue that this should be the one published.
The glitched movie was published:
http://tasvideos.org/1945M.html
And the same author, Masterjun, suggested on youtube that he was going to optimize antas' recent discovery.
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boct1584 wrote:
"Minimize Overworld Time" has been proposed as a goal, which I think is perfect. It allows some flexibility to get extra goal spheres when you'd be backtracking anyway, like when you warp back to Yoshi's Island after clearing the Special Zone.
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