What does being hung have to do with getting hanged?
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I don't think you got the punch line. He wanted to be "hung like a black man". Can you read into the euphemism? It's of sexual nature. What hangs... and what do black men generally have that white men are jealous of?
Ah screw it, I just ruined the punchline.
What if we had reached Jabu Jabu at 6am, gotten the boomerang, and then save/death-warped out of the dungeon. We could then make our way to Hyrule Castle, without fear of time...
And you wouldn't want to do this because
(1) you don't have FW, and
(2) it takes quite some time to travel up and down Zora's Domain
Nice try, though. I thought of it myself.
In any case, the next run can use a super-slide in Lake Hylia (triggered by a Tektite) to reach the owl really quickly. This way, one can do Hyrule Castle after Jabu and still make it in time, saving one trek across Hyrule and one brief owl dialogue in the Lost Woods.
Good:). Hopefully our "new" way of travelling will eliminate all of the close calls we have had.
I see...
Another idea that I have is to use death warps to our advantage.
What if we had reached Jabu Jabu at 6am, gotten the boomerang, and then save/death-warped out of the dungeon. We could then make our way to Hyrule Castle, without fear of time...
I mean if it's faster to deathwarp in a dungeon, and we have time dependent things (Requiem cutscene, Jabu Jabu Spiritual stone, Dodongo Spiritual Stone), we should use the deathwarp to our advantage.
We had timing problems in getting to HC, right? If we had deathwarped in a dungeon (e.g. Jabu Jabu), we could have backtracked to HC, gotten the lullaby, and resumed the dungeon. It might be faster overall, esp. if it's advantagous to warp in a dungeon.
Um... you'd skip the Minuet cutscene, but you'd get the Saria cutscene instead. That IS where you learn Saria's song, isn't it?
Unless you can hover to skip that cutscene ;). It doesn't start till you get close to her, right? Or you could do some boundary glitch somewhere. I believe it's possible.
Or you could find the solution to all our problems, and find a way to get out of LW w/out collecting Saria's cutscene.
But that would require glitching through Mido. Which we cannot accomplish.
Ahh, good ?. I thought of this too and found out that you will enter the Temple of Time, where you first started off as an Adult.
Shiggity Wiggity Shit.
Hmm...
How fast would you be able to do Forest temple as a kid, after Dodongo's cavern (to do the hover glitch with bombs)?
You'd skip the Minuet cutscene, and the whole journey to the Forest temple (minus the meadow).
In a normal speedrun, I'd say it's slower.
In a TAS, it might be faster. The part that bothers me the most is how to push the huge blocks. But then we'd use ground jumps, right? And then killing the stalfos, and not using the hookshot would take a bit longer too.
Nice Stalfos battles, and ocarina playing! :)
Quick comment:
Is it faster to save-warp (or deathwarp) to Links's house directly after exiting the shadow temple? You would then skip the death mountain and goron city intro scene, not to mention the trek in between.
Deathwarping would put you a stones-throw away from the Lost Woods.
Even with the reset delay, it really seems to be faster.
Ah its okay. My mistakes will be corrected in the next run.
Next run, as in a revision of what you just did? Or starting completely over when you've finished the current one?
If it's the latter, I think we should really start looking at the TAS revisions link MWL has in his sig. It's looking pretty bare.
I'll watch the current WIP when I got off work. I'm sure it will be quality material.
Plus, doesn't it take a computer to create a stereogram anyway? So if it could figure out the original pattern, it would just have to find the pixels that vary to put together the image.
Reverse Engineering something is very difficult, quite impossible in some cases.
For example, if you compile/link a c program, and don't include a symbol table indicating what the variable labels were, and want to decompile it...
It is practically impossible to recover the original program in it's original syntax, which includes variable names, and sometimes overall structure.
Figuring out the original pattern is the area where we can fool spambots.
We somehow insert image(s) that prevent reconstruction of the original image, but allow the human to still see the stereogram. And we insert these "imperfections" randomly.
It's almost like dumping a bunch of identical lego pieces on the ground, and trying to figure out what order they originally came into the box. All the computer can do is guess. However, the human can use a video to determine what pieces went where, while the computer does not have access to the video.
Speaking of random generation:
http://www.enweirdenment.org/cgi-bin/cube.cgi or gifs here:
http://www.enweirdenment.org/cgi-bin/cube.gif
Concept could be useful.
What about a magic eye (sterogram) captcha? I doubt the computer could morph the image together and figure out which words/numbers are 3d.
Even if the computer is able to recognize how to organize the overlapping frames, how would be able to read the resulting image?
But then there's the inherent problem of humans who can't do magic eye puzzles.
Heh, what can I say that hasn't been said.
Great run, I loved the bombs killing the bats, great timing there.
I didn't realize that you could get the silver rupee w/out blowing up the beamos. Good one there.
Super-slide is always a good WTF for people who haven't seen it. It would be nice if you could use it more often (for going across hyrule field, etc), but I understand it's hard to setup, and it's hard to judge where to use it. Plus our suppy of bombs is limited.
1 quick question: Using the hoverboots to backwalk is slightly slower than not using them at all. As you use it's hover capabilities all throughout the run, while backwalking, there is probably never a good time to switch back to normal boots just so you can balkwalk? Plus there's a delay when switching items....
About the Keys in the Forest Temple. My memory is very hazy, so I'm not really sure what keys you are talking about. Of all the temples in OOT, forest is probably the one I've spent the least amount of time in.
Q: How are women like a Magic 8 Ball?
A: If you don't get the answer you want, shake for a bit and ask again.
So when's the divorce ;).
Now here's one really racist blonde joke. If you get offended, it's your fault. I'm not trying to be racist, it's just something I heard.
WARNING RACIST JOKE:
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GET A BLONDE GENIE?
A white guy is walking along a beach when he comes across a lamp
partially buried in the sand.
He picks up the lamp and gives it a rub.
Two blond genies appear, and they tell him he has been granted three
wishes.
The guy makes his three wishes and the blond genies disappear.
The next thing the guy knows, he's in a bedroom, in a mansion surrounded by 50 beautiful women.
He makes love to all of them and begins to explore the house.
Suddenly he feels something soft under his feet, he looks down and the floor is covered in $1,000 bills!
Then, there's a knock at the door. . He answers it and standing there are two persons dressed in Klu Klux Klan outfits. They drag him outside to the nearest tree, throw a rope over a limb and hang him by the neck until he's dead.
As the Klansmen are walking away, they remove their hoods; it's the two
blond genies. One blond genie says to the other one, " I can
understand the first wish having all these beautiful women in a big
mansion to make love to. I can also understand him wanting to be a millionaire, but why he wanted to be hung like a black man is beyond me.
If you map your face buttons to modifier keys (shoft, control, and alt) most keyboards will allow you to press any two other keys in combination with all of those without blocking, I think.
Would you find the "shoft" key near the "any" key?
Actually, my friend's wireless keyboard won't even allow that.
edit: I think I've discovered why switching L/R during charging seemed to sometimes reset the boost-counter -- on my keyboard I can't press L,right, and accelerate at the same time, it cuts out one of the inputs.
Are you by any chance using a laptop, or a wireless keyboard? They tend to limit the number of keys you can press at once.
Maybe an external keyboard would do the trick, or a controller, but that means buying extra hardware :(.
Well once you get a bot that works well on time trials, you could potentially give each person a level to do (overnight), and hope to god that it doesn't desynch, once you hex-edit it in.
But with all the randomness (going through pipes) you've been having, it doesn't seem like such a good idea.
Well, you can keep him down with just properly timed crouch stabs and it shouldn't be too hard in a TAS, and it's also faster (of course you jumpslash him first). I suggest using frame advance to time the crouch stabs, unless you're already using it.
Are you sure that crouch stabs keep him down? If it doesn't work, you would probably have to alternate crouch stabs and spin attacks, but then your "stored" jumpslash goes away. Hey, at least it would look cool.
You know, this might make a decent distributed computing problem... If we can host a "current best" somewhere for each track (with the timezone data that generated it) we could then make clients that downloaded that data, mutated it, then uploaded the "solution" to that set of zones if it beat the current best time. The server could fairly easily verify that the set of inputs resulted in a faster time than the current record. It'd be pretty awesome to have a "bot brute-forcing Mario Kart" screensaver.
The concept of sort of the "ultimate" tool-assistance - a bunch of computers trying to find the absolute best time for a game with little to no human intervention - rather appeals to me.
It seems that the number of choices on where to go (based on what huffers is doing) is quite small. Small enough to be computed overnight.
A true perfect playthrough, of a game without well defined boundaries (such as Super Mario Bros) would probably take on orders of 1000s of years if not more, even with significant pruning with every computer devoting its processing power. I believe Bisqwit showed this a while back.
But a distributed computing grid would be awesome. I'm just not sure if I would abandon folding for a long time. It would probably be a bitch to code, too.
Talking about the reset button on the consoles? Since the NES, they've all had a soft-reset the game can detect and even save values between (eg, Top Score in Super Mario Bros.)
Does the GBA's reset code count as a "soft reset"?
