The story of how I got banned from IRC:
<DarkMoon> Test
<DarkMoon> Someone ping me
<exileUT> Darkmoon: how?
* Received a CTCP PING from Grunt
<DarkKobold> pong
<LexSfX> DarkMoon: your machine's not responding to my pings
<DarkMoon> ExileUT: /ping DarkMoon
<DarkKobold> ExileUT: /ping DarkMoon
<DarkKobold> didn't work
<LexSfX> i did /whois DarkMoon, found your IP address ("99.18.87.10"), and pinged that.
<LexSfX> requests timed out.
<DarkMoon> ._.
<DarkMoon> The fuck
<DarkKobold> you don't exist
<DarkKobold> ... on the internet.
<DarkMoon> Fantastic
<LexSfX> Nmap scan report for adsl-99-18-87-10.dsl.lgtpmi.sbcglobal.net (99.18.87.10)
<LexSfX> Host is up (0.080s latency).
<LexSfX> All 1000 scanned ports on adsl-99-18-87-10.dsl.lgtpmi.sbcglobal.net (99.18.87.10
<LexSfX> ) are filtered
<LexSfX> 80ms
<DarkMoon> Hm
<DarkMoon> My lag is back to normal
<DarkMoon> Now it's up again...
<DarkMoon> Lex: Try it again
<LexSfX> 99.18.87.10: request timed out (repeatedly)
<LexSfX> you want nmap result?
<DarkMoon> Sure
<DarkMoon> My lag goes up to +30 seconds then resets back to zero
<DarkMoon> Ad infinitum
<DarkMoon> I am so confused
<DarkMoon> This is karma
<DarkMoon> For not doing that essay
<DarkMoon> KGOD
<DarkMoon> I'LL DO IT
<DarkMoon> YOU'VE MADE YOUR POINT
* Disconnected (Connection reset by peer).
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<DarkMoon> Test
<LexSfX> success
<DarkMoon> Did anything I just say go through
<DarkMoon> Said*
<Grunt> DarkMoon: Did you say something?
<DarkMoon> <DarkMoon> I am so confused
<DarkMoon> <DarkMoon> This is karma
<DarkMoon> <DarkMoon> For not doing that essay
<DarkMoon> <DarkMoon> KGOD
<DarkMoon> <DarkMoon> I'LL DO IT
<DarkMoon> <DarkMoon> YOU'VE MADE YOUR POINT
<DarkMoon> * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer).
<LexSfX> DarkMoon: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35695760/00000127.png
<tematric> DarkMoon is saying something?
<DarkMoon> Guess not
<DarkMoon> Well that was fucking weird
* DarkMoon has quit (K-Lined)
Disconnected (Remote host closed socket).
Server window when I try to reconnect:
* You are banned from this server- Temporary K-line 1440 min. - You've been temporarily blocked due to filtering problems. Sorry for the inconvenience! Mail kline@freenode.net with questions. (2011/11/3 07.42)
* Closing Link: adsl-99-18-87-10.dsl.lgtpmi.sbcglobal.net (*** Banned )
Current projects: Yoshi's Island Disassembly
Yoshi's Island any% TAS with Carl Sagan
it is amazing the fault found in the first round vote sim.agora here is the question this game will always be overcome will be the ever-dara to make a fast tempomais already seen many times SMW was improved up to that one of the first 40 seconds or more will they improve it further.
Translation: "It is amazing the faults that were found in the first [SMW] TAS submitted. Here is the question: This game will always be overcome with glitches (?) to make a fast[er] TAS (?) already seen many times. SMW has been improved by [over] 40 seconds over the first submission. Will they be able to improve it further?"
That's the gist of what he's saying, I believe.
Anyway, to answer your question: yes, improvements will be made. No TAS is ever truly maxed.
Current projects: Yoshi's Island Disassembly
Yoshi's Island any% TAS with Carl Sagan
I'd like to see how fast SMW can be beaten, so i agree with the usage of this new trick in an any% run.
The problem is that we don't know if there's a way it can save time. Masterjun's testrun lost 386 frames over the current run. Even with perfect optimisation, it's still pretty far behind.
My question would be if an end sphere skips the blowing up cutscene of Iggys castle. It might since it is a normal exit that maybe doesn't trigger the event, like using an end sphere in bowsers castle doesn't get you to the end credits...
If the cutscene is skipped this should be a lot faster. Would be nice if somebody could test that...
The goal sphere does in fact skip the Iggy's Castle cutscene and Bowser's Castle cutscene, where Peach is released from the Clown Copter. However, you are right about the fact that it does not trigger the ending credits. This fact has been debated whether using the goal sphere in Bowser's Castle would be allowed, considering the fact that you are unable to view the credits once you exit the level.
Soo using it in Iggys castle in any% would be faster? I would guess it still brings you to the next level, doesn't it?
No, because you have to go to YI2 to get Yoshi then go to YI1 to swap the Charlie. It doesn't sound like it'd take a lot of time, but it does.
Current projects: Yoshi's Island Disassembly
Yoshi's Island any% TAS with Carl Sagan
TASVideos has always been very accomodating of speed/entertainment tradeoffs, and as I said on page 83 of the SMW thread, 75 frames is a pretty small tradeoff for half of Yoshi's Island looking new.
75 frames is 1.25 seconds. That's a huge amount for something like this. I can 100% promise you that it would have no chance of obsoleting the currently published (or waiting to be published) run.
Half of YI would be changed, sure, but flying over everything isn't that entertaining.
Current projects: Yoshi's Island Disassembly
Yoshi's Island any% TAS with Carl Sagan
I'd like to see how fast SMW can be beaten, so i agree with the usage of this new trick in an any% run.
The problem is that we don't know if there's a way it can save time. Masterjun's testrun lost 386 frames over the current run. Even with perfect optimisation, it's still pretty far behind.
My question would be if an end sphere skips the blowing up cutscene of Iggys castle. It might since it is a normal exit that maybe doesn't trigger the event, like using an end sphere in bowsers castle doesn't get you to the end credits...
If the cutscene is skipped this should be a lot faster. Would be nice if somebody could test that...
The goal sphere does in fact skip the Iggy's Castle cutscene and Bowser's Castle cutscene, where Peach is released from the Clown Copter. However, you are right about the fact that it does not trigger the ending credits. This fact has been debated whether using the goal sphere in Bowser's Castle would be allowed, considering the fact that you are unable to view the credits once you exit the level.
One could argue that "any%" means fewest exits. And using the goal sphere in Bowser's Castle does count as an exit.
I don't know. It's sketchy.
Current projects: Yoshi's Island Disassembly
Yoshi's Island any% TAS with Carl Sagan
Okay, YI3, my mistake. But I could have sworn that the overall loss for all of Yoshi's Island was less than 2 seconds considering the extra speed the cape gets you in YI4 and Iggy's Castle.
EDIT: Found it. There's a Nicovideo link on page 83 of the SMW thread. Link to the post: http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=259274#259274
EDIT 2: Or was that before the Yoshi Wing glitch?
This is ISM's work. I think it was his test to see whether the bug would save time in any% route. Unfortunately it doesn't.
Now, with the inclusion of item-swap bug into the any%, it will save even less time, because it becomes impossible to get a stock mushroom in yi2 and do the item-swap, too.
But I think the next major improvement for smw will involve this bug. Maybe a faster way will be found to perform it :p
Again, it's only 75 frames. I'd gladly accept that tradeoff for almost half of Yoshi's Island looking different.
Maybe we (SMW TASers) will consider making a demo run of it for fun in the future. It wouldn't be published because it is slower. However, it could make for a semi-different approach to the former half of the game.
Current projects: Yoshi's Island Disassembly
Yoshi's Island any% TAS with Carl Sagan
Enter a level, do some amount of it, trek across the map to it, trek across the map back. This is going to save time? I think it will be less useful than you think.
I was reading this bit.
Current projects: Yoshi's Island Disassembly
Yoshi's Island any% TAS with Carl Sagan
"If you look at the 96-exit or sdw 120-exit and genuinely think it won't save time in most levels (edit: not so many in hindsight), then rethink your position."
Is this you telling jimsfriend he's wrong, then editing it saying he's right, while still telling him to rething his position? Looks kinda confusing to me.
If you look at bahamete's post again, you'll notice that "most" is striked-out.
Right, and still it goes on to say jimsfriend should rethink his position, which is why I'm confused.
Jimsfriend said that this break wouldn't save time because of overworld transitions. Bahamete told him to rethink that theory because the time saved in levels outweighs the time lost from overworld transitions.
Current projects: Yoshi's Island Disassembly
Yoshi's Island any% TAS with Carl Sagan
"If you look at the 96-exit or sdw 120-exit and genuinely think it won't save time in most levels (edit: not so many in hindsight), then rethink your position."
Is this you telling jimsfriend he's wrong, then editing it saying he's right, while still telling him to rething his position? Looks kinda confusing to me.
If you look at bahamete's post again, you'll notice that "most" is striked-out.
Current projects: Yoshi's Island Disassembly
Yoshi's Island any% TAS with Carl Sagan
>>I wouldn't be against using this exclusively for Boo's Tower in the SDW 100%, due to the extreme length of the level.
The coolest level in the run. One of the most fun to watch imo. Skip it and nothing else. Makes perfect sense....
I've never played SDW before in my life. The only thing I know about it is that you've tried your hardest to break it with Luigi, due to its length. I can only assume it's arduous as fuck.
bahamete wrote:
I don't really think that being rude was entirely called for.
^
Current projects: Yoshi's Island Disassembly
Yoshi's Island any% TAS with Carl Sagan
I'd like to see how fast SMW can be beaten, so i agree with the usage of this new trick in an any% run.
The problem is that we don't know if there's a way it can save time. Masterjun's testrun lost 386 frames over the current run. Even with perfect optimisation, it's still pretty far behind.
Current projects: Yoshi's Island Disassembly
Yoshi's Island any% TAS with Carl Sagan
This glitch has motivated me to try out so many things in SMW.
I'm also against the usage of this in full runs of hacks. However I wouldn't be against using this exclusively for Boo's Tower in the SDW 100%, due to the extreme length of the level.
Current projects: Yoshi's Island Disassembly
Yoshi's Island any% TAS with Carl Sagan
I have yet to view those SMVs, but what I think he's getting at is that you can essentially freeze Yoshi's animation if he's licking an item before he goes invisible, i.e. the invisible Yoshi's tongue is technically sticking out and holding a null sprite that will always occupy its own sprite slot (in this case, #9), while not filling it (sorta like a Banzai Bill).
When you kill the visible Yoshi, the invisible Yoshi reappears and 'resumes' his licking animation with the null sprite. Since this null sprite can only be in slot #9 (in Mister's example), it will shove itself into that slot when Yoshi reappears. If there happens to be a sprite in that slot when this happens, the null sprite will force the sprite out of its slot.
However, since the sprite on Yoshi's tongue is in fact a null sprite, the sprite that would get replaced 'becomes' the null sprite in a sense that it warps to where the null sprite is, which is on Yoshi's tongue.
I don't know if this is what happens (because I haven't seen it yet), or if I made it at all easier to understand, but this is how I interpreted Mister's wording.
Current projects: Yoshi's Island Disassembly
Yoshi's Island any% TAS with Carl Sagan
