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I voted yes, haha. That's just so awesome. The glitches on the first two races I did know of but you totally mangled Rainbow Road, hahaha. I never thought I'd see the day with Rainbow Road beaten faster then Luigi Raceway, just awesome. Very entertaining with the glitches.
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I voted no myself. I mean if you had used this controller 2...thing which I think you said is what accounts for the high jumps I might be satisfied on some level but skipping right to the end of the game using a password...anyone can do that... I certainly applaud you for trying, you really seemed to want to entertain us with this. :)
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I've been playing this game a lot, but just for fun. I haven't been trying to TAS it seriously or anything. I'm not sure if anyone has noticed but LUCKY shots are determined pretty far in advance. The only thing I've been able to really discover so far is that getting a LUCKY on Mario's first turn is determined before you enter a battle and doesn't change on a solo shot jump no matter how long you wait or menu change. I'll probably do more observing at some point, considering that's all I'm really able to do ^-^;;;
Sorry if people are much farther in determining LUCKY shots, all I've been reading is actual difficulties with the game itself. Would be pretty fun to TAS this game. I don't even really think you need stache either. Just keep working that power. I've been doing it on my GBA and now I can defeat bosses after one turn. It's almost dishearting because I can't practice my advance moves...heh...the first turn is too powerful.
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Heheh, I gave a yes vote mostly cause you chose an awesome game to complete. I didn't think games were that good in 1992. And it does have awesome music sometimes..haha. seems like it would be a very long game to just go at on your own. o-o
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You did a great job on the game, I'll give you that much. This game is so boring though! It's very entertaining while you set up the glitch for your Nidoking, but after you have a pokemon that powerful there just isn't anything different. No real challange presented for me or anyone to see you accomplish. You pretty much beat the game within the first 5 minutes and spend another hour trying to get to the credits.
Other then that, I only see a couple minor things like everyone else, but I mean in a hour movie they don't really matter...I'm gonna have to give this a "meh" though. Still, great work!
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Tompa wrote:
What emulator are you watching this with, Dragon? Using the latest or 1.7.2? 1.7.2 takes one frame less to start the game than 19.3.
Didn't you read his comments before you replied?:O
"Bringing up the "Save and quit" screen allows me to skip the ending message, the one telling me to climb the stairs."
I think that was like 365 frames faster or something.
*palms face* I so read that too before I viewed the video, gawd I'm tired. x-x
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Whew, that's just cool. I didn't know about the left+right glitch when I first did this run. I personally think it could be a little better still based on knowing that now...there is two problem areas I saw, I think another go could get this below 4 minutes.
* Lag when warping out of mabe village can be avoided. Lose one frame when warping the second time from the telephone booth area. That loses the chicken sprite and saves a few frames from what I saw. It wasn't worth it at the time to save those frames...
* Why the reset sequence at the end? Did that gain time from my run? Without that I think this could easily go down below 4.
Still gonna vote yes. Great job on the run.
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Nicely done, I enjoyed seeing the new glitches. I like how you made it more entertaining too. I don't totally understand the glitch, so I guess I can't say much about the random pauses I see that seem to be for no apparent reason...
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Nach wrote:
So enough of this off topic ness.
Who liked that fancy pipe entrance?
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I cleaned up this thread. Please stick to discussing this movie and not other things. Other kinds of posts will be sent elsewhere.
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I should vote no because you claim this to be perfect. You make guys like me, who hate hearing that, want to go through and beat it by one frame to prove you wrong. Granted you could be right and I'm not denying it.
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Haha, well regardless of some of the irritability around here, this is a great run! Those improvements are more noticeable then you might think! I guess you really have to look for them, it does seem more crisp overall. Well done, definetly a yes from me. :)
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Bob A wrote:
yes.
kyrsimys: i find the animations at least somewhat entertaining, though this might be a holdover from when i first saw them when i was about 8.
The animations for the most part are skipped completely anyway, it won't matter. I could have sworn there was at least one more level where you didn't have to use all the blocks...
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I finished up through level 21 as of now. I must say it is rather interesting to watch happen fast. Just imagine how many times it would have taken to solve some of these...done in just a few seconds. As of right now I'm averaging about 12 seconds per level...and that's including the unavoidable end and beginning to every level, averaged in with the 10th finish movie clip (a few seconds is required before you can continue). This run will be about 25 minutes long I think. It's so fast paced that I think it could make an okay speed run. Level 60 is in fact one where you can finish with only one tile. Though...the music takes an awful long time. Think I should do the special completion anyway?
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Definetly voted yes, though I wonder if there aren't a few parts that couldn't be optimized more...for example the boss battles, unless there is a reason knuckles is slower
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moozooh wrote:
This is something I don't understand, but honestly want to. I was going to ask in IRC, but since you already left, I'll ask here.
First, why would you have to be sorry? As far as I see it, this site in its general idea is not about such emotions, and not about going through crap. It's about entertainment, about perfection.
(…Well, since there's no real entertainment in this particular case, anyway, it's still about the perfection. Not that it really matters, though.)
I don't need to say anything here you made my point for me.
In either case, why would you have to vote no, let alone automatically? I mean, I know this movie isn't interesting per se (and I would have voted no on it myself, be this a first submission of Circus Charlie), but what is already published can not be unpublished (at least now), and, what's more important, this run still is one step closer to perfection. This actually isn't one guy taking place of another, this is one guy adding his share of a contribution to a common goal, which is: making the movie closer to perfection. If somebody doesn't understand that, or feels bad about that, and thus makes you go through crap, you don't have to be sorry, and you don't have to waste your nerves on that, since it's not your problem to begin with.
for 1/60th of a second? that's almost shameful, I think we should give Phil and Genisto the record for the sake of having used Famtasia, that alone is a worthy accomplishment...for 1/60th of a second. Don't you remember when POM's SMB got beat by one frame and no one would allow it? Why is this different?
Besides, voting no on a submission that technically belongs to the same category of "frame contributions" as your SMB2 run? I don't get it.
That I admit fault for, I'm done trying to beat games for such small amounts of time. I won't even watch runs anymore unless there is a whole new trick that saves time. something I can see...shoot even if dehacked put both movies side by side no one would be able to see 1 frame shift...i put a lot of thought into what I said and i meant it...outside of this being an incredably boring game to watch to begin with.
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I don't even think I'm going to watch a movie that improves the existing run by one frame...look at all the crap I had to go through improving 19 frames on a run. What makes this one different, anyway?
I should just vote no automatically..but since I'm not going to watch it, I'm not going to vote, sorry. :(
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Dromiceius wrote:
I'm sure I never got past level 8 or so, so I'm fairly interested to see the entire thing done. Though, if it were me, I'd only do the run if I had some particularly interesting solutions to the puzzles, which couldn't be found in a faq/walkthrough... which assumes that there are multiple solutions, but there you go.
There are certain puzzles that can be done using less blocks then what's given to you. That would be really awesome to see done. I did it on console. I've honestly forgotten which levels it was but Hopefully I can figure it out...
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first...sorry if this was mentioned before. I seem to always fail to see that one thread that was what I was looking for. If not, well here's my idea.
Did anyone ever actually try to complete all of the puzzles? I'm not even sure how many there are, I've never finished them all! I was under the impression that 100 was not the last level. would it be boring of me to try and beat all the puzzles in a TAS?
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I voted yes, it's interesting to see that some bugs are still there, probably from Sega mixed with the fact that you have advanced abilities in an area that wasn't meant for those abilities. :P
