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Chamale wrote:
Ooh... Post 666 for FractalFusion... dudududu... Anyway, does that inventory jamming thing work as effectively in Pokémon Red? Seems to me it does, but I've never played Pokémon Yellow.
It should, since you pick up the same items as in this run (or close to it).
Other possible items to pick up are the Awakening (Poketower), Take Down TM (Silph Co.), and Double Team (Safari Zone).
I'm not going to change it now, but I could have benefited by not taking the Potion in Viridian Forest and taking something else later, since I scroll through less items that way. But then it would lead to questions like "Should I overspend on Pokeballs or Escape Ropes?" because of the same conclusion. Keep in mind that I do not want Escape Ropes on the top, because I switch the Bicycle with the top item.
Run is currently in Poketower.
Thanks for alerting me to my post count. This post takes me past two thirds of a thousand. :)
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Well of course, if I teach Thunderbolt.
But I want to try to do it without teaching Thunderbolt. The issue is whether I can critical Thrash Blue's Cloyster in the final battle. With an attack DV of B, I was unable to do it.
Pokemon Yellow is a GBC game, if anyone is wondering why I chose GBC mode.
Edit:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Game_Boy_Color_games#PEdit 2: I meant attack DV of B, not attack of B. :D
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Here goes Pokemon Yellow:
http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/4453/0215%20-%20Pok%C3%A9mon%20Yellow%20%28U%29%28RSAT%29.vbm
Run goes up to Brock beaten (which is only the beginning of Nidoking's rampage).
Pikachu's DVs: 32CC
Nidoking's DVs: FBEF
You might notice that I am picking up superfluous items. The reason is that I want to jam the inventory to prevent gym leaders from giving me useless TMs and saying how good they are.
List of items I plan to pick up (* means required items):
1) potion (viridian forest)
2) pokeball (buy in pewter)
3) bide tm*
4) fossil*
5) nugget*
6) ssticket*
7) dig tm*
8) cut hm*
9) tbolt tm*
10) bike*
11) max ether (after rock tunnel, hidden)
12) pokedoll (buy in celadon)
13) fly hm*
14) elixir (poketower)
15) rare candy* (poketower)
16) pokeflute*
17) escape rope (buy in lavender)
18) cardkey*
19) surf hm*
20) goldteeth/strength hm*
Bubblebeam TM is not on the list because I will use it right away.
I need to use an item later (probably elixir) to get the Secret Key in the Cinnabar Mansion.
Rridgway wrote:
I heard that if you use a rare candy on the pokemon, it goes to level 100. (Could be rumor)
As far as I know, if you use a Rare Candy on a L1 Pokemon, it goes to L2 no matter what its experience is, and its experience is set accordingly. So it doesn't work.
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Sorry, I wasn't thinking today.
I guess then it's really not worth it to faint. Just beat the trainer with Oddish and Bellsprout and forget about Nidoking.
Or play Pokemon Yellow and do the trainer-fly glitch in Viridian Forest.
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When I first saw "#1479: Vatchern's SNES NHL '94 in 02:29.73", it made me laugh.
The movie didn't though, even if it was interesting. It seems too short, and sports games are hard to entertain.
Voting no.
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primorial#soup wrote:
You're forgetting one crucial detail of the glitch... and that is that you need to fight a trainer after Escape Roping away (otherwise a pokémon won't spawn when you return). However, it doesn't matter if you actually defeat this trainer or not, which is why I suggest just dying to the nearest trainer to save time.
It is not necessary to fight a trainer if you trigger some NPC event. However, as far as I know, there isn't any near Mt. Moon except possibly the Super Nerd guarding the fossils.
My opinion is that Gengar is better than Nidoking.
Of course, Nidoking is the only option in Yellow, because Ivysaur's moveset is very bad.
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moozooh, are you sure it's not Windows XP causing the darkness? From experience, the screen under WinXP is naturally darker than in Win98, even at the monitor's highest brightness and contrast settings.
In WinXP, you can increase the brightness by right-clicking on the desktop and selecting Graphic Options -> Graphic Properties... -> Color, and increase Gamma/Brightness/Contrast. I had to do this a few times because underwater levels are so hard to TAS when dark.
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CrimsonPride wrote:
I believe in yellow, you level more slowly(takes more exp to level).
It depends on the Pokemon. There are 4 types of level-experience relationships: Fast, Fading, Medium, and Slow.
The fastest in the early game is Fading, which Mew and all 3-stage evolution Pokemon except the bugs get. The R/B starters all belong in this category.
One difference I noticed in Yellow that is not in R/B is that you cannot Escape Rope from Bill's house or the Pokemon Fan Club. Not sure about Safari Zone.
Edit: It is possible to Escape Rope in Safari Zone.
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Just a warning for anyone who considers using Nidoking (or Thrash, for that matter).
Thrash has an added effect that wastes about 1 second when you first use it. Short delay attacks (e.g. Poison Sting, Bubblebeam, etc.) are better for up to 3 Pokemon in a row, barring SE/NVE messages. I noticed it while testing Pokemon Yellow.
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If you don't trigger a NPC event (trainer battle in Brock's Gym or this), it won't work and everything in Viridian Forest is deactivated (even the trainers in Viridian Forest will not battle).
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I found a place almost at the very beginning to trainer-fly glitch in Yellow.
This trainer is only in Yellow, and sees you from the maximum distance. He is second last person in Viridian Forest, before the last U-bend:
How to use glitch:
1) Play until you reach Pewter. Get Escape Ropes and Pokeballs.
2) Use Pokecenter.
3) Go back to Viridian Forest and use trainer-fly glitch with Escape Rope.
4) Let the guy outside Pewter take you near Brock's gym.
5) Go and trigger a battle with a Pokemon with a special of 7.
6) Use Pikachu's Growl 6 times on that Pokemon.
7) Go back to Viridian Forest. Clear the message "Hi, do you have a Pikachu?".
8) Get L1 Nidoking.
9) Glitch L1 Nidoking to go to L100.
P.S. I keep getting "You missed the Pokemon" when trying to catch Nidoking.
P.P.S. Not anymore, at least if I damage it with a Pidgey.
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I find that the links to "NES movies" and "SNES movies" (particularly the former) result in tons of movies, complete with tons of screenshots, every time one searches in them for one single movie. It really is confusing to a person who is unfamiliar with this site, apart from using bandwidth on stuff that the person does not care about. The number of NES movies right now is 213. I personally almost never click on the "NES movies" anymore, and instead search the game name or type "movies.cgi?name=...".
Perhaps it would be good to implement, under each system, a list of game names as links, similar to what SDA is doing. I had no problems browsing there.
(Reposted in new topic by primorial#soup's suggestion)primorial#soup wrote:
FractalFusion wrote:
Perhaps it would be good to implement, under each system, a list of game names as links, similar to what SDA is doing. I had no problems browsing there.
This is a great idea; It probably deserves its own thread. I second this idea, but I don't think that the complete list should be done away with, as I think it's still very useful. Perhaps another idea would be to have a combo box on the main page for each system. This way, the user could get where they wanted to go with a single action, instead of being directed to a page of links first.
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I don't know why you guys are even talking about L100 Gyarados. Gyarados does not have fading experience.
On the other hand, Ivysaur is also obtainable (in the area before Mt. Moon), and has fading experience.
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On the topic of clutter, I find that the links to "NES movies" and "SNES movies" (particularly the former) result in tons of movies, complete with tons of screenshots, every time one searches in them for one single movie. It really is confusing to a person who is unfamiliar with this site, apart from using bandwidth on stuff that the person does not care about. The number of NES movies right now is 213. I personally almost never click on the "NES movies" anymore, and instead search the game name or type "movies.cgi?name=...".
Perhaps it would be good to implement, under each system, a list of game names as links, similar to what SDA is doing. I had no problems browsing there.
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CrimsonPride wrote:
In the Morph Moth stage, when you use the charged S. Wheel shot to clear the blocks to get to the Armor Upgrade, you clear both rows of blocks...
... However, if you were to destroy just 1 column of blocks using the charged S.Wheel, X can still hop down the tiny passage on the left/right (on whatever side you decide to do it).
I tried destroying just 1 column of blocks as well as destroying the blocks with a diagonal shot (it's possible). Both led to too much lag (I don't know why). Perhaps the remaining blocks cause lag as you go down the shaft. Lag is inevitable in any case. Thanks for pointing it out anyway.
CrimsonPride wrote:
...its also faster to climb the wall in in the small passage on the way back up from getting the armor upgrade only 1 column is destroyed.
The walls are already very close. Having it closer does not make climbing faster.
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N. Harmonik wrote:
I wonder if buying Escape Ropes would help at all.
Escape Ropes should help. The question is where.
- Can't escape rope from normal buildings and gyms. This isn't Pokemon Red.
- I can think of only two possible places to Escape Rope: Team Aqua hideout near Lilycove and Cave of Origin in Sootopolis.
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Also, I found out that Kyogre has a Quirky nature, which is neutral. If anything, give it a nature that raises Special Attack and lowers either Defense, Speed, or Special Defense.
How to use glitch:
1) Play until you reach Pewter. Get Escape Ropes and Pokeballs.
2) Use Pokecenter.
3) Go back to Viridian Forest and use trainer-fly glitch with Escape Rope.
4) Let the guy outside Pewter take you near Brock's gym.
5) Go and trigger a battle with a Pokemon with a special of 7.
6) Use Pikachu's Growl 6 times on that Pokemon.
7) Go back to Viridian Forest. Clear the message "Hi, do you have a Pikachu?".
8) Get L1 Nidoking.
9) Glitch L1 Nidoking to go to L100.
P.S. I keep getting "You missed the Pokemon" when trying to catch Nidoking.
P.P.S. Not anymore, at least if I damage it with a Pidgey.