I found this trick with my friend when we was glitching this game. It needs much better video than this and I hope someone can make it.
I also hope this is useful trick in future TAS runs for this game :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mURWHILGcYs
You can clearly see hover almost end of the video!!!
Have the code for Full Lonlon Milk there first (no Minuet, no Bolero, no Light, have Shadow, have Spirit, no Water, have Fire, no Forest)
For example catch a fairy to get Shadow and Spirt. Then get Fire by beating it and do the glitch.
The cool thing is, it really doesn't matter what's inside your bottle when you empty it.
As you can see, the uses for that glitch are only very limited.
So you mean you cannot get full lon lon milk to your quest status screen?
If I can get that lon lon milk hex to the left side equipment, I can get fishing rod there. that would be cool but if not then we need to find way for it.
Kuwaga - you sayed that you can get half bottle of milk to your invertory and it will give you all medallions expect light medallion and how much it's on amount, i hex it's 1F. I have tried get it but how you do it????
I explained it more detailed in some of my earlier posts. But really, everything you have to do is have the code for Full Lonlon Milk there first (in your inventory). And then empty the bottle on B, no matter what's inside, or do the empty bottle drinking glitch. You will have Half Full Lonlon Milk on B and in your inventory then.[/quote]
I just got it work when I sended this message sorry, but still I don't get it how you can put that half lon lon milk hex to your quest status screen. if you do same thing with goron sword on right-c it doesn't work.
wish I was at home so I can test stuff out, but you said BA also works w/ Trade items? If you use Cojiro it would give all medallions except for fire I think... then after that we could use BA for boss key...
claim check could give us all but shadow. then it comes down to which one is faster to get... shadow or fire.
Take note that whenevery you die it reverts any B button item from BA to a deku stick (so we can get bottles back on B, etc).
That wasn't exactly what i have in my mind. I mean you can start BA with trade items too like you need bottle on B to get some new items for it. that was what i mean.
Sorry Kuwaga if I haven't told you about that, good job anyway on that you found them on your own. if you follow that item hex list on and try hack futher than dungeon items you will see some items will hack temples key amount. one song will give you double defense power too and with one song you can hack skulltula amount too ^_^
And BA doesn't work on child, I hope there is way for that someday...
I have made tons of videos about oot to my dvd recorder. I have new glitches and tons of stuff with BA so any peoples will see how do those. I will so those dungeons hacks, how get black/blue gauntless, how get japanese wallet and odd seeds too.
Kuwaga - you sayed that you can get half bottle of milk to your invertory and it will give you all medallions expect light medallion and how much it's on amount, i hex it's 1F. I have tried get it but how you do it????
For gerudo and mask of truth you can always try changing the values and looking at what it changes.
Gerudo Mask:8011A66E ????
Mask of Truth:8011A66F ????
I'd test it but I am not at home.
I have tried it a lot. Jaytheham sayed me they are unused byte on memory, maybe. I have checked some codes on zelda secret ocarina to see what code could be close enought of that code but without success :(
I hope you can figure them out Acryte or Kuwaga ^_^
Exactly..
I was hoping I could just find the first address and calculate the rest from it.
However, I was able to find out what some of these "unused bytes" really get used for. Question marks are probably unused bits.
Prescription on C-Right points to Deku Tree Dungeon Items: ?,?,?,?,?,Map flag,Compass flag,Boss Key flag
Eyeball Frog -> Dodongo's Cavern Dungeon Items: ?,?,?,?,?,Map flag,Compass flag,Boss Key flag
Eyedrops -> Jabu Jabu's Belly
Claim Check -> Forest Temple
Bow with Fire Arrow -> Fire Temple
Bow with Ice Arrow -> Water Temple
Bow with Light Arrow -> Spirit Temple
Kokiri Sword (unequipable on C-Right) -> Shadow Temple
Now the only thing that could be useful is probably Bow with Fire Arrow and catch a fish/bug to get the Fire Temple Boss Key in an all medallions run. That is if we don't find a way to get the Light Medallion back, after that Lonlon Milk glitch.
We still don't know what the bytes with Gerudo Mask and Mask of Truth on C-Right get used for. Also an empty C-Right is equal to 255 and that points to another seemingly unused byte. So there's only 3 bytes left, maybe we can still find something interesting there, lol.
Kuwaga - I don't want to sound hars or anything. But all what i can say those are damn old to me and some other peoples too. I have sayed about that acryte some weeks ago but I don't think so he remember it. I have tried figure out those 3 unused byte long time but without succeess. Good find anyway if you found those on your own and if you tell me that why Zelda chaos haven't updatet it because that owner doesn't care about it anymore and I have asked he to update it but no...
I know you doens't belive me I don't care. sorry peoples keep this topic on.
how can we watch the addresses? I have wanted to do that but I'm not too skilled w/ an emulator. Or do you just mean change them and look for the changes?
I have that idea in my mind long time. If we can watch them then we can explore those last items and where those are linked and all.
That is old you can start BA with all bottle items, but today I noticed that you can strat it with all child and adult trade items too! What we can thought of that. I think why BA start with bottle and trade items is that in item screen they are items what can change to different item in item subscreen. If you catch new stuff to bottle they will be updated in yout invertory and trade items too. So when you go to adult and have somekind trade item on B button game think that bit address can be change and it will put item to B button from right-C link. Understand it?
My explantion for that link on B and rigth C is that. If you have swordless link and hop on epona, you can use C items on her. if you have sword it doesn't let you use items. C buttons will fade away. I think game check that you cannot use C items from B button and code will go wrong if you doesn't have anything on it, is that right?
Acryte said that in MM B and C buttons doens't have link. so it might be because of that they removed that method from MM and they did another C button "fade" method. I don't know if I'm right but this is my explanation for BA. If someone even read this...
I have discovered Bottle Adventure half year before I tell it to jaytheham, the zelda chaos owner. I understand it very well too like Acryte, I can claim that he understand it very well ^_^
I know there is more stuff to do with BA than now we have but if peoples study BA with HEX or codes they will understand it much better and I hope acryte's guide will help peoples out.
Oh and I don't must forget Librari how have helped me with BA much when I discovered it. Credits to him too!!!
Keep up to good work with BA you guys and Acryte with BA guide ^_^
I have tried that bombchu from well early without lullabymany hours without succeess. I will try still more but it seem to be that you cannot get them without lullaby.
I have found new stuff with BA and that keeps me hurry too so I don't always spent time to bottom of the well.
That room on well where we clip trhought of that wall doesn't have water when water is raised. If we can get to that room then we can get bombchus from well early.
Anyway we still get bombchus from spirit and then get lullabye as a adult with BA and ge magic meter from top of the death mountain, right?
I need to see can we get to that room some other way, hmm...
Yep it won't work on that switch, even as kid w/ iron boots you can't press it... you need to be holding an item I'm pretty sure since it isn't based on weight alone.
Hey kazooie, good to see you. And early well saves time. Then instead of going there we can alter the route to go to kakariko. No skulltulas right? It'll be interesting to see what you've found, me and fluffy have searched long and hard and couldn't do it. so congrats.
Basically it means we do kakariko bottle, and grab the bombchus there. Then we do Dodongo's. Then hylia and grab gold scale and bug. and then we can go to do jaabu and probably grab odd mushroom last and then head to ToT. Idk we'll have to asess the route to make up for it but it definitely saves time.
It took me a hour to get it but last time when i tried it was long time ago, anyway I will make video of it today when I get home.
Acryte - I have some things to make clear and I have sended PM to you on sda. so go see it and you must answer to me.
EDIT: Here is video of that trick and only problem is that you need lullaby for lowering water level.
I hope you guys like it :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQE-MQo3pbY
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Hi to everybody. Finally I can register here and I'm clad of it.
If hope you guys accept me here because I love oot so much but I don't know anything about tas running but i hope it doesn't matter.
Oh and by the way i know way how to get bombchus from well early without bombs and going to spirit temple because of those. but how much does it save time and I like to see current route for run. Thanks