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MikeRS wrote:
Besides a 100% run, we can use nitsuja's trick to improve both runs on this site. Let's see if we can get a sub-10 min run :)
You shouldn't reply to a thread unless you have read it. Even with the tricks he listed, nitsuja hasn't found a way to really improve Genisto's movie at all. How do you suggest we cut 34 seconds off?
As for a 100% run, IMO all Hammer Bros. and Piranha Plant levels etc should be completed. Anything with monsters/pits/anything that can kill you should be considered a level. Toad houses, spades and memory games should of course be skipped.
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Atma wrote:
No TAS is replicable on actual hardware, so I can't really see that as a valid argument.
You know as well as I do that I meant that TASes should be THEORETICALLY possible to replicate using actual hardware, with perfect reflexes etc. You're just splitting hairs and you know it. The point is that the game must be unaltered. Who would for example enjoy a TAS of SMB3 if there was an emulator glitch that allowed the player to run just run through any wall? It wouldn't be the same game anymore.
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What the hell crawled up your ass, FODA? Why do you attack Dwedit when he was only being helpful and pointing out a major bug in the emulator? No one is blaming you for the emulator's fault and no one is saying you should have known that this would happen.
And Dwedit wasn't demanding anything. He isn't saying that it's your obligation to remake the TAS, he was saying that the run cannot be published the way it is and it will have to be redone in order to be eligible for publication. Why are you taking this so personally? Sheesh.
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...and because the site would be impossible to maintain if all movies just aimed for entertainment. The runs need to be easily comparable to make the judging possible. See, for example, River City Ransom. It has created a problem because it aims for entertainment over speed, and no one has been able to obsolete it despite numerous attempts. Entertainment is just too subjective to be practical.
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Incredible. I have watched it 3 times so far, and it's probably my favorite movie of all time. The improvement is just crazy. My congratulations to the authors on finishing this.
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Thanks, I will look into it.
Actually, if I find enough stuff to improve, I might redo the whole run soon. In other words, this submission is in no hurry to be published.
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Yeah, 1:14 is a great improvement, and it's almost entirely thanks to your trick. So big thanks for that, as well as getting me interested in TASing again, I almost feel like I want to try my hand at something new now.
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When I started watching this movie, I expected something new and novel. What I got was a short version of the 120-star run with 2 minutes of new and interesting material. This is definitely not different enough from the 120-star run to warrant publishing, I was just really bored most of the time.
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Ummmmmmmm I submitted the movie some time ago already, check the workbench. In the end I decided to do it all over again from 1-2 and I'm quite happy with the result.
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For me it wouldn't be about discovering new tricks and such, it would be about what they thought about the movie, did they like it or not and why etc. And besides, you don't need to have knowledge of memory addresses to give good suggestions anyway.
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Hina98 wrote:
If there's no registration required, how is it not open to everyone? If people are already registered on the forum, they can simply send the author a pm, they don't need a special button that does it for them.
Oh, I thought by "open" you meant "visible to everyone" instead of "allowed for everyone". What I meant was that there should be no registration required, and the messages should be private. It would work just like FODA described. With PMs, trolling/whining etc. would be pretty minimal.
The idea about NVA announcing comments on IRC is pretty bad, IMO. I definitely think that the comments should be addressed to specific TASers, and not every runner is on IRC. The comments could also easily be missed on IRC. I don't really understand your approve/disapprove option though, could you elaborate?
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Hina98 wrote:
I assume that the messaging would be open to everyone whether or not they're members on the forums (otherwise this system would be redundant, and pms could just be sent or a person could write a comment on the submission thread).
Didn't you read FODA's suggestion at all? The messaging would NOT be open to everyone, the messages would be sent as PMs. People could just click on "send a message to the author" and write the author of the movie comments or suggestions without having to register anywhere. The point is that it would be as easy as possible so that as many people as possible would give feedback on the runs to the authors. I can't imagine this kind of concept leading to any harrassing or trolling, because what fun is trolling when you don't get a response?
