I see what you guys are getting at... idk why TASVids would disallow anything that would make the game faster (isn't a TAS trying to make the game as fast as possible?) but I've never been apart of the TAS community so I wouldn't know these things. The thing is that we need a great amount of frustration TMs in order to accomplish the idea we are going for (1-2 shotting all the bosses in the game) so idk how we would do that efficiently that would be any faster than using wonder mail, the only thing I see is that we buy a frustration TM in the shop after Skarmory, then find a ton in Mt. Thunder and also finding a link box to link them all together (my original plan was to have 4x frustration on partner and 3x on starter with a move that can kill the Mankey in Uproar forest)
I just think it's a little dumb that we cannot use a feature of the game to speed it up but what do i know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Dang I'd be I guess I must have at some point :p
Anty-Lemon wrote:
I agree that Charmander is a possibility, because of Skarmory. Torchic learns Ember at level 10, making it basically unavailable that early, while Charmander learns it at level 7. Other than that, player/partner choice has little to no impact on boss fights.
I was planning on them being both lvl 5 for that fight and throwing a G-rock at Skarmory for the extra needed damage. Also to optimally do the Meanies fight I think we are going to need a throw a Grock as well, so it would be worth picking it up for Skarmory.
Anty-Lemon wrote:
Likeanoob wrote:
Also if you can find it that would be great, not having to optimize the quiz would be great :)
No, you'd still have to repeat it. Iirc it wasn't from a hard reset
well yeah no duh but it would be nice to eliminate unnecessary guesswork
EDIT: Wait a sec, I know you! Aren't you the person who was considering speedrunning Zero Isle?
No, you must be thinking of TheGuesst :p but anyway thanks for the info, I'll try my best but I'm certain when I'm finished there will be things to improve :p
Also if you can find it that would be great, not having to optimize the quiz would be great :)
Heyy guys!
Me and Kobral have done some TAS stuff, but nothing past Thundewave cave yet.
Our Idea was to use Frustration a copious amount of times to 1 or 2 hit boss fight while not killing anything else the whole game.
This would be possible since Frustration is a set dmg move so the attack stat wouldn't influence it at all.
There is a couple of things that are up in the air though, like can we soft reset? Soft resetting to input Wondermail codes saves 5 seconds over having to use the in game mechanic of quicksaving as means to get to the title screen.
The Deciding factor of who to choose might be who learns the least amount of moves from start to finish and who levels up the least, but with my prior testing it seems that the level curves for the pokemon are different in PMD than in the main series. Chikorita seems to be a very strong canidate because she only has 3 moves until lvl 12 and then a 5th move is learned at lvl 15, I doubt that we will even get to lvl 12, let alone 15.