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Posted: 4/16/2018 8:47 PM
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Melonslice
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oh wow I was working on this game but hadn't found anything, this is my favorite game in the franchise I was routing it already but maybe I should hold off for now. I know the endings well to so if you have any questions I know a lot about the game I guess. I really like the video I never knew that could be possible before The items are not that hard to find most of them involve having to go to the prison though, I think it would be cool if a tas got the special ending of the game though. By grenade do you mean ほうだん? the shell idk I would have to play the English patch again to figure it out but I have been playing the Japanese one recently. You use the bottle air to get through the cave you can't breath in. This cave leads to the small island for any one wondering. I guess I may as well post this here too but I posted it in SK1 thread, I am currently translating the survival kids 2 items it shares a document with survival kids hut glitch stuff though but just ignore that. and I am making maps but probably won't help a tas at all. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U2iZnYJU3-hN4sxSbkwe5Uzfn6WVbe9zPOIpKYYGj2Y/edit#gid=0 Anyway don't know if I can help at all but I am very excited.
Posted: 4/10/2018 5:38 PM
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yeah it is the only credit warp that I found that works with boy. Oh yeah I could use the grass will be slightly faster, thanks for the tips. I don't know if you can burn the kindling though might have to test that out because that would be faster still. edit I read your submission I really hope it gets accepted because it really is cool and I like to watch it haha. In the meanwhile I will continue to look for stuff, I am still trying to get raft to work, kind of curious what happens when the ship is reached in that state as it already thinks you are in the ship at first. excitingg
Posted: 4/10/2018 12:28 AM
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I don't mind grinding the run it is ending 3 and I can do it over a few days :) thank you for the advice though. I guess I could see how much faster charcoal is too as it uses the boy so you don't need to switch character might be fun to test. You can burn the feather by the way if you ever want to try it. Thank you
Posted: 4/9/2018 12:15 AM
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Online the Japanese version is the cheapest and easiest to find for me stranded kids is to much money but I guess it makes sense the game is very popular over there which is why I am buying that one I can't find the usa one atm sadly. I think 3/7 ending can be coupled with slow ending 1 as long as you save after the glitch text you will boot up in the same state so that would cut it down to 2 glitch text rolls instead of 3. Weird you can't save after skipping the cut scene does that effect some thing? Because if not it would be best to save after cut scene do the ending and then reload it. Although keeping that in mind you need the big stick for slow ending 1 so might be best to do that second really up to you. Funny even though it is slow ending 1 it will still be faster than sitting through the text again. Haha okay I think I will try that then for ending 3 does that mean the randomised stuff is on a frame counter before you start the game? and I hope it get accepted I think that it won't be a time beaten easily with what we know because the other endings need extra steps like using items etc which means going in to the menu.
Posted: 4/8/2018 4:41 PM
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As a separate point I was wondering how you got ending 3 that way? I tried and couldn't get it to work I changed my name to "notono" and I even ate the grass. I couldn't get it to work though so does your name matter in this ending because I never thought as much before and I even tried the same direction you walked? this glitch is so precise but thats why I like it edit - okay so doing hut skip I was back in monkey been rescued state and I have never built the raft but the earthquake still happens giving a game over. I am so glad I recorded this I need to upload to youtube but I want to mess around with it more before I do that. so excited I just needed to put it here for you guys okay so I was messing around with stuff more and it seems to put you in an unwinnable state you can't leave on the raft if you sleep you die you can rest though and the event won't trigger
Posted: 4/8/2018 10:55 AM
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This has also been talk between megotsthis and myself we weren't sure weather to separate them or not especially as the glitch can only be gone in the jp version we put them in the same list but both agreed it was different and both should be treated differently in a way but that was just our opinions that usa/pal and jp are different we could be over thinking it. I would love to see an all endings run if people can sit through going through the hut text 3 times which may seem repetitive for some people I would enjoy seeing the difference text glitch text though and the glitchy endings always fun but I don't know if people would enjoy this as much. I can try to help as much as I can if you do tas all endings may even be worth taking clams this time although there numb effect last for ever so it is a time loss. I feel like you're ending 3 run should be published instead of taking over an hour with ending 3 it is 2:42 plus I feel for anyone who hasn't seen the glitch before it is surprising and fun coming from this game. Ending 3 and 7 are very repetitive this way to end the game actually makes them fun to do for me. I think out of ending 3 and 7 I feel ending 7 has more to it at least with ending 3 you still have stuff like find the other girl/boy but with ending 7 it really is a nothing ending all you do is eat, sleep and drink. Thats how I feel personally. Also not useful to tas but if you make kindling and put it down in front of you instead of saving and quitting your character will walk over it just something funny. Also English has less letters than French or German (did not check Japanese) idk if having less letters really affects text speed yet I need to record and see. How many places can the oob be used I have been curious about it as there are lots of places you can't do it. If I was confusing in any areas just ask sorry.
Posted: 4/4/2018 10:31 PM
Post subject: DeSmuMe can't play back movies for me.
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I know it is something on my end I have made and played movies before on DeSmuMe just for fun really but I wanted to practice with some tas stuff so I decided to do mysims because it is incredibly simple and I know it well nothing to serious just getting used to stuff. When I recorded my movie fine but when I tried to play it back I couldn't open it in the play movie drop down menu. Dragging and dropping the file brought up an error message saying "The ROM header is invalid the device size has been increased to allow for the provided file size" DeSmuMe 9.11 thank you in advance I know it is something I am doing wrong I just don't know what. I hope I gave enough information and I was clear enough if not I would be happy to give more information. Thank you.
Posted: 4/1/2018 6:21 PM
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10/10 would watch again maybe...
Posted: 4/1/2018 3:28 AM
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Wow what was posted here looks really fun so far I just love how fast the puzzles get destroyed really makes me want to play it again :) is this project still going on or not? ^^
Posted: 4/1/2018 3:11 AM
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Some of my favourite manga has to be -Magi -Real account -Bus gamer -Pita-10 -Free collar kingdom -Missile Happy -Yaketate Japan -Piano no mori -Hataraku maou-sama Devil is a part timer is defiantly my favourite the visual novel is good too it always makes me laugh.
Posted: 3/31/2018 11:44 PM
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My ed 1 run yeah fast text would be nice I got 4:34 with out fast click away and ofc sloppy movement but it shows it could be faster this is just to show people what it looks like. Link to video is it the overflow that is affecting the speed of the text? maybe there is another item that eliminates this to a degree? one time I got a glitch that made it show a character (letter) every 10seconds or something it was pretty bad but that had a lot of text in the glitch is I remember correctly
Posted: 3/31/2018 12:27 PM
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Okay :) thank you for explaining it to me I kind of get it but yeah haha I may have to do something like this just because it will make item testing quicker for me. if an ending can credit warp it can almost always lead to ending 1 leave the hut walk to the beach put down the SOS then leave via the right exit using big stick and go immediately back to the beach and you can also get ending 1. if you fail to get ending 1 let the helicopter fly off I can't make the raft to get ending 2 I couldn't get it to trigger. I know how the scene works so I couldn't have done something wrong just seems impossible from my perspective. If you look at my google sheet you will see they all crash :) yeah I know what you do has an effect which is why I also test them multiple times but I wanted to tell you something else that can happen from doing that action of cutting the tree in this case. Yeah getting confused poisoned or numb has its own text so it makes sense things might changed because of that too. I did test getting stung by the bees too but I haven't written it down yet. Yeah shows weird colours but there are 3 of them I have discovered hence the V1 V2 and V3 although I call V2 and V3 grafic glitch. (which V3 is my favorite nothing better than seeing the monkey as a baseball bat sprite haha) I am still using Gambatte :) Haha no problem hope they can be helpful :)
Posted: 3/31/2018 12:36 AM
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Okay I just did it like this for ease for me if I need to eat anything else to get more effects please tell me so I can test it for now I just tested all the fruits, berrys, mushrooms and grasses. I tried to use the same name as the English ones but I couldn't translate it wrong unless I read it wrong there is no sweet fruit what so ever. also because of how the character looked on the game boy I wasn't sure if it was a ぁぉ so I might have used the wrong one sorry :) Also I only used the official game translations for the foods not the in between text because it was easy to find the official one. if any thing is confusing please tell me so I can change the translation. I am really sorry if this is the wrong thing and I hope my translations are not to bad パクっ nom みじかい　くさ　を　たべた I eat the short grass おなかが　ふくれたなぁ　 My tummy feels full みじかい　くさ　が　なくなった The Shortgrass is gone パクっ　　　nom しめった　くさ　を　たべた I eat the damp grass おなかが　ふくれたなぉ　My tummy feels full しめった　くさ　が　なくなった The Damp grass is gone パクっ Nom どがった　くさ　を　たべた I eat the sharp grass うぇ~っ ニ。ニガイ。。。uhhhh b.bitter... どがった　くさ　が　なくなった The Sharp grass is gone パクっ Nom ほそい　くさ　を　たべた　I eat the thin grass ！？　ちょっとからい　A little spicy ほそい　くさ が　なくなった The thin grass is gone パクっ　Nom じみなきのこ　を　たべた I eat the plain mushroom おなかが　ふくれらなぉ My tummy feels full じみなきのこ　が　なくなった The plain mushroom is gone パクっ Nom ポコポコしたきのこ　を　たべた　I eat the hollow mushroom からだが　げんきになっ　てきた Feeling good ポコポコしたきのこ　が　なくなったThe hollow mushroom is gone パクっ Nom カラフルなきのこ　を　たべた I eat the colourful mushroom おなかが　ふくれたなぉ My tummy feels full クラフルなきのこ　が　なくなったThe Colourful mushroom is gone パクっ　Nom フワフワしたきのこ　を　たべた　I eat the soft mushroom おなかが　ふくれたなぉ My tummy feels full フワフワしたきのこ　が　なくなった the soft mushroom is gone クっ Nom ツルツルしたくだもの　たべた I eat the smooth fruit おなかが　いっぱいで　もう　いらないや I can't possibly eat anything else ツルツルしたくだもの　が　なくなった The smooth fruit is gone パクっ Nom プニプニしたくだもの　を　たべた　I eat a squishy fruit げんきが　でてきたぞ Feeling good プニプニしたくだもの が　なくなった The squishy fruit is gone パクっ　Nom ゴツゴツしたくだもの　を　たべた　I eat the hard fruit のどが　うるおったぞ I am getting thursty ゴツゴツしたくだもの　が　なくなった the hard fruit is gone パクっ　Nom まるいきのみ　を　たべた I eat the round berry げんきが　でてきたぞ　Feeling good まるいきのみ　が　なくなった The round berry is gone パクっ Nom かたいきのみ　を　たべた I eat the hard berry おなかが　ふくれたなぉ　My tummy feels full かたいきのみ　が　なくなった The hardberry is gone パクっ　Nom やわいきのみ　を　たべた I eat the soft berry ！？　ちょっとからい A little spicy やわいきのみ　が　なくなった The soft berry is gone Extra text あやや。。しびれてきた　ahhh... I became numb まひ numbness うっ　あれは　どく　だったんだ ohh.. that was poision どく posion 。。。！。。あれ？ ...!..that? こんらん　confusion
Posted: 3/30/2018 8:26 PM
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awee thank you I am glad I can help in some way :) I love this game yeah I noticed that too so I had to save state before I started fishing to get fish on the first round so not much time would pass and make it back to the hut in time. It does seem very useful for longer runs maybe? The french items are also not translated from English just like the German version and the character restrictions makes things look funny in french as well as some words imo the Japanese is just annoying because it only uses kana but I guess that is good in the end. Wow your sheet is so much more detailed than mine haha, emm I don't really understand what an lua is or anything either ^^ Looking at both the sheets I noticed we had some differences like on jp when girl uses match it does show 2 days for me but sleeping again makes day 3 shows the helicopter cut scene for ending 1 then you just go to the beach and you have ending 1. Mine never crashes with matches Also for using the knife on the tree I got colour glitch 1 instead of a crash on JP boy. I am trying to trigger unusual text that can be easy to miss to make my time a little more worthwhile most of my testing so far has been on the European version and I will be adding more text once I finish the section I am doing (btw I could help I can read Japanese a bit so I really don't mind helping you want me to go through and document the different text effects on spicy, bitter ect? I thought all eating was the same but if it isn't I would be happy to check it out ^_^ or I could just put the Japanese text here and translate it here so you can also test) edit I am in the process of translating them for you
Posted: 3/29/2018 2:03 AM
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Okay I have made a chart of what I have tested so far just skip the first page I dumbly put the two sheets together I need to separate them but I will do that at a later date so for now that is all I have. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U2iZnYJU3-hN4sxSbkwe5Uzfn6WVbe9zPOIpKYYGj2Y/edit?usp=sharing I am slow at testing items but it is fun. If I am not allowed to post a google sheets link I am sorry and will remove it and make it in text format. I will keep updating it though. Edit - I don't really want to make a new post so I will just post this here I do not know how to control the credit warps deciding which ending to get. So far the search for a credit warp has been fruitless. And I wonder why gender changes things. it is very hard for me to get consistency on the Japanese version but even some of the glitches on the USA version and European version can have variations I don't know what decides this
Posted: 3/28/2018 12:41 AM
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Thank you Patashu. I was really worried I don't like breaking forum rules. After what happened I am really glad I posted here. (also I got the ending warp for ending 3 to work for a boy in the Japanese version using the burning something to make charcoal text) After watching Mugg test out a variety of items I decided to test out a few more like burning to make charcoal for example and drinking an empty canteen. Also not just in the Japanese version but all versions gender seems to change up some of the glitch effects language definitely effects them too. Something cool I discovered in the USA version of survival kids with the charcoal burning when the text only all of them say this tastes bad gasp but on the box after that it will say v9w(kids name) glitch block br ! then it goes off the screen it might be nothing but it could be something. also the boy text says V(glitch)V (kids name) (you can ha
this!) Stranded kids Eng and Fr - Crash (boy and girl) Ger - Colour glitch (boy) Crash (girl) So far a quick way to Ending 1,3 and 7 have been discovered with only 1 and 3 being recorded ending 7 I only have pictures of it, the ending Mugg got was 3 which is pretty normal. and for ending 1 I can only reliably recreate the slowest way to get ending 1 using the glitch. Once I got the normal type helicopter thing as it took me to day 3 in the day counter and I went to the beach as normal without putting out a SOS sign the helicopter still picked me up. This is all on JP none have been found for USA or Europe yet Also in most of the Japanese glitch text it had katakana N ン I don't know if making a characters name compiled of this character (letter) really does anything. I need to make a spreadsheet to keep track of everything I have tried so far. Stranded kids in general has a lot more crashes in it than the other versions from what I tested even the general I found my knapsack causes a crash.
Posted: 3/26/2018 10:59 PM
Post subject: Credit warp found? ending 3 and 7.
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Hello, I don't tas at all but I did a speed run of this game recently and I got really interesting in the hut glitch so I was doing tests on Survival kids and Stranded kids with lots of cool results. I never tried the Japanese one at all but I just decided to try it. Again it was that very broken whip I used to do this, it warped me to the ending 3 credit scene and then ending 3 cleared and it even counts on the file. The thing is you have to be a girl to do this glitch I have no clue how to do a lot of stuff like look at code or anything. I don't know why it doesn't work when you are a boy and the name seems to have no effect on it just the gender. I know you guys were talking about it a while ago so I decided to tell any one interested that it was done. I did a speedrun with them I have no clue if I can post it here. I was thinking of doing a comparison video later on though. It might help some one looking to do more tas stuff with the game sorry ^^ (weird things that happen its ending 3 not 7 which means the game thinks you have found the boy already when you are by yourself) and it is always that ending never another one At the end of writing this I used the kindling to get ending 7 as girl only again I couldn't get it to work as a boy. although matches seem to do this and kindling can also set off ending 3. matches can set off ending 7 as well as ending 3 and matches have the coolest effects with the most "variables" I find it very hard to recreate most of them though. hope this was okay to post here thank you.