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There was confusion in regards to how timing works: I am timing from input start to credits. Ending input early provides no advantages.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
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I do fully agree that plenty of NES games would be awful for this format due to how popular the system is and how many simplistic games there are, but this game is far from simple and was far from fully explored. I was incredibly surprised from what I have seen from submissions thus far and have been incredibly impressed with how diverse the results have been. I feel outright claiming a game cannot be a good fit because it is old and because it is for a particular system is a bit of a reach. I'll be completely honest: If I could not choose this game, I would very likely passed on hosting this contest. The fact that the system was NES was coincidence (though the accessibility of NES TASing is certainly a nice side benefit). I felt it struck a balance in terms of complexity: it can't be too simple or easy otherwise there would not be enough variation in the results, but it can't be too complex otherwise you have like Zook Man ZX which lasted a lot longer and people definitely got burnt out on. I was a little worried myself when it came to the game having existing RTA work but when I asked I was reassured in that regard. I definitely appreciate feedback however, it would probably help with hosting future contests.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
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I have sent messages to teams that have yet to turn in submissions. The latter is definitely an interesting idea though.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
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electricslide: it is strongly discouraged for submissions to outright ignore known time saves prior to submission. Just because it is the fastest completed run does not mean we have to accept it by our rules.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
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This thread seems to be getting out of hand. I want to summarize basically what kinds of emulators we accept from and why. We generally prefer emulators that are accurate, easy to use and easy to encode from. Accurate emulators generally have less problems with games ranging from graphical to audio bugs and are more likely to sync on consoles. Currently Genplus-GX is limited to simply Windows so we still accept Gens. If support of Genplus-GX increases, Gens will eventually be deprecated due to issues with accuracy and encoding annoyances with dropped frames on resolution changes. We need to make things as easy on our publishing team as possible but we obviously do not want to unnecessarily limit the amount of people that can TAS a given system. If you simply prefer Gens due to nostalgic reasons, you will at some point be disappointed because we must rule out emulators that have eventually become outdated. Various other emulators have become deprecated for similar reasons. I do not know if the note is warranted in this case and do not know if there is much precedent for such but I am not part of the publishing team. I do think passive aggressive attempts at getting people to switch emulators is counter productive however and should probably cease. The best way to get people to switch is as stated to increase support.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
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Reminder that the deadline for the contest is fast approaching. Please make sure to submit by December 2nd 23:59 UTC to the email listed in the OP. Please do not wait until the very last minute, I will not be accepting TASes submitted December 3rd UTC.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
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Spikestuff wrote:
As a better note. We also have a movie currently in the submission pile (besides this one) which will be rejected for the same reason. This is the movie for the same reason.
I wouldn't make such assumptions until I finish.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
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We strictly ignore text differences between any language for runs on this site. At this point all languages are acceptable but an improvement cannot come solely from faster text.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
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Why did you jump a lot even on flat ground? I think I saw a tiny bit of landing lag every time you landed.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
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If a full movie fails to beat an existing WIP, it can still be rejected for such.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
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So I found a 76 frame improvement on one of the matches. I noticed that you got caught bouncing up and down on a bomb for a bit and figured it was unnecessary. There might be other instances similar throughout the run. EDIT: Video: Link to video
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
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I think there is some confusion as to what we even need a term for and what it should cover. Should we care about non-rerecording applications like Wine? Do we need to explicitly exclude emulators?
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
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I was officially accepted to Winter Power Up With Pride 2018 and the TAS will premiere on December 7, 2018 at around 5:44PM on PowerUpWithPride's twitch channel.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
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If said wip could be provided it would be appreciated.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
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I meant does lag affect the timer of the countdown stages?
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
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Post it in userfiles and a judge will update the main submission if it isn't that big a change. Big changes require a new submission.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
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Does slowdown affect the countdown timer at all for timed stages?
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
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This was by no means a hastily made decision. feos and I discussed this in depth in private and this was mentioned in the judgment note as well.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
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I had a discussion with the author and due to various reasons wishes there to not be coauthorship. I see no problem with this as Ruadath's inputs were not actually used in the final movie.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
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filpAM wrote:
I'm glad the judges here are wise enough to make fair decisions and accept this movie, this shows they fully comprehend the whole audience taste to these kind of movies and its entertainment value. Besides the shy No voter in the corner.
The "shy" No voter expressed reasons for their opinion. There is nothing wrong with having a different opinion from other people as long as their opinion has decent reason behind it.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
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Why was this cancelled?
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
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Coauthorship is mostly a courtesy thing unless you outright copy inputs. I'll update it when I finish judging.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
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From what I can tell the only relevant version difference to this mode is just the difference of movement speed.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
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There are a little over 16 days left in the contest. I hope you all have made good progress at this point and aren't waiting until the last minute because you may be left behind if you do.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero
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Jiseed wrote:
Also I'm not super sure about the rules on the site, did you want co-authorship Ruadath?
Ruadath contacted me to let me know he would like co-authorship.
[16:36:31] <Mothrayas> I have to say this argument about robot drug usage is a lot more fun than whatever else we have been doing in the past two+ hours
[16:08:10] <BenLubar> a TAS is just the limit of a segmented speedrun as the segment length approaches zero