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Posted: 5/2/2004 8:29 PM
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Michael_Fried
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Would you mind sharing any strategies with me? Maybe if I know the best strategies I can smash the Curveball record just like I did to the Jailbreak record :) Edit: What level did you get up to when you got your Curveball score? I'm not sure, but I think I got up to level 9.
Posted: 5/2/2004 8:27 PM
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Michael_Fried
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That also happened to me one time. If you manage to beat my score again I could improve my score if I wanted to. Joust is an easy game but I just stopped playing because I got bored.
Posted: 5/2/2004 8:12 PM
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Michael_Fried
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Oh no, is there a major glitch in that game also?
Posted: 5/2/2004 7:59 PM
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Michael_Fried
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Check out my new score in Jail Break! Now you'll never beat me.
Posted: 5/2/2004 7:42 PM
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Michael_Fried
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I don't think it would make a difference key-wise. Either way, you'll have enough keys for each level. However, if for some reason you don't have enough keys, it's better to go to 8 and 2 first because you get 3 extra keys in level 2. Edit: By the way, in a swordless quest the best keys to get might not be the same. Since fights would be harder, it might be better to skip a few of the fights and instead take a 1 screen detour in some places to get a key.
Posted: 5/2/2004 6:34 PM
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Michael_Fried
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For the past few days, I've been practicing some of the levels without using save states or slow motion. In worlds 1 and 2, I started each level with little Mario, and in world 8, I started each level with fire Mario, and in world 8 fortress, I also started with a star. Here are all my best times: 1-1: 294 1-2: 293 1-3: 294 1-fortress: 273 1-5: 288 1-6: 291 2-1: 292 2-2: 288 2-fortress: 272 2-3: 280 2-desert: 191 2-4: 294 8-1st hand stage: 191 8-2nd hand stage: 192 8-3rd hand stage: 192 8-1: 282 8-2: 290 8-fortress: 373 8-castle: 352 Edit: I practiced 8-1 some more and I improved my time to 282.
Posted: 5/2/2004 6:27 PM
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Michael_Fried
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There are a few problems with your route. Arrows Meat Bracelet If you get the bait there, you can't make use of the 100 rupee cave on the way to level 8. Whistle 3 4 7 It's a shorter walk if you do Up+A before going to level 4, and it's also a shorter walk if you whistle to level 3 before going to level 7. After doing 3416, all you have left is the 8+2 group, 4, 5, and 7. 8+2 has to be before 7 because of the bait, and 5 has to be before 7 so you can whistle to 3. Also, 7 can't be last because you wouldn't be able to immediately whistle to 1. With all these rules, you have 2 choices that would be equally fast. You can do either 8, 2, 5, 7, 4 (which is how my route went), or you can do 5, 8, 2, 7, 4.
Posted: 5/2/2004 6:10 PM
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Michael_Fried
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Would anyone be interested if we did a thread on LoZ challenges on this forum like TSA did on his? I'd be interested. By the way, would you mind explaining how you got 62 in Jail Break in the ZHQ arcade?
Posted: 5/2/2004 5:16 AM
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Michael_Fried
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It would be good to be able to compare myself to some actual human runs of the dungeons to see where I stand. Are you saying the emulator speed runs weren't done by humans? I think what you meant was real NES runs or legit runs. Anyway, have you done the level 1 challenge yet? If I remember correctly, TSA's time was 1:42 from entering the level to touching the triforce, including getting the bow and boomerang and starting with the first sword and 4 bombs.
Posted: 5/2/2004 4:51 AM
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Michael_Fried
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May I suggest grabbing a sword so you can kill Ganon? It makes a cooler end to the movie than dying. That might not be a bad idea, but it would have to be the wooden sword since that would be cooler than using the white or magical sword.
Posted: 5/2/2004 4:43 AM
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Michael_Fried
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I have another question about your first route. When are you going to do level 5? Also, why would you beat level 6 and go back there later to get the wand? Doing Zelda without a sword is IMPOSSIBLE If by "doing" you mean beating the whole game, then that is correct. However, it is possible to get up to Ganon without a sword, and many people have done this on a real NES. There's a swordless questing FAQ on GameFAQs. Anyway, how's this route: 30 rupees from cave 1 screen right of level 2 Up+A Bombs Level 3, raft Up+A Gambling game Blue candle Level 4 (ladder only) Up+A (choose save instead of continue so you start in the overworld) Level 1, bow Arrows Power Bracelet Level 6, wand Up+A 100 rupees from tree Level 8 Bait Level 2 Up+A, right 2, and warp to NE Level 5, whistle Whistle to 3 Level 7 Up+A Level 4 Whistle to 1 Level 9, silver arrows
Posted: 5/2/2004 4:11 AM
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Michael_Fried
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How is it faster to do 5 before 6? It doesn't save any distance and you wouldn't have the wand for 6. By the way, in your first route, where would you get the bombs from after gambling 4 times?
Posted: 5/2/2004 3:47 AM
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Michael_Fried
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I know you're getting the wand, I meant that you should get it earlier. Anyway, I'm still thinking about this, so I'll let you know if I come up with something good.
Posted: 5/2/2004 3:13 AM
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Michael_Fried
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So you plan on doing all those levels without the wand? Give some a few minutes and I'll try to come up with something better. By the way, I think you need the wand for the level 8 boss. Edit: I just noticed a problem with both your routes. You can't whistle to 4 if you just get the ladder and leave, you need the triforce.
Posted: 5/2/2004 2:05 AM
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Michael_Fried
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I started watching Jonas Strandman's SMB3j warpless timeattack movie and so far it's not very good. Not only did he miss a lot of coins, but he got 292 in 1-2. I can get 293 without using save states. Edit: I watched a few more levels. In both world 1 fortress and 1-6, there were minor inaccuracies and he lost a fraction of a second, but at least he matched my non-save state times. He beat my non-save state time by 3 time units in 1-5, but one of the jumps is very hard so I wasn't able to do it correctly. Edit 2: 2-1 only had a minor inaccuracy, but 2-2 was pathetic. He only got 286, and I got 288 without save states.
Posted: 4/30/2004 11:27 PM
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Michael_Fried
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Its not a good idea to use the gambling game ever in a speed run. Not even to save 15 seconds? I think it's worth doing level 3 over a few times to be able to take a significantly shorter route.
Posted: 4/30/2004 7:32 PM
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Michael_Fried
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Oh, you mean gleeok. As for your question, I don't know. I guess you just have to swing the sword at exactly the right time from exactly the right position.
Posted: 4/30/2004 7:06 PM
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Michael_Fried
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What are the hydra bosses? I don't remember any enemies with that name.
Posted: 4/30/2004 6:15 PM
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Michael_Fried
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Finish L1 - L1 Warp point activated Finish L2 - L3 Warp point activated Finish L3 - L2 Warp point activated Finish L4 - L5 Warp point activated Finish L5 - L4 Warp point activated So when you warp in the 2nd quest, what order do you go to the 1st quest warp points in? Would it be L1, L3, L2, L5, L4... or would it be L1, L2, L3, L4, L5...? Edit: Now that we have 2nd quest "Flute Mastery", we should come up with a new route that uses warping more efficiently. I think there's still no way to use warping more efficiently. The only difference is that before going to level 8, you would warp to the 1st quest L5 location instead of the 2nd quest L4 location.
Posted: 4/30/2004 6:10 PM
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Michael_Fried
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1.L3 2.Up+A 3.L4 4.Up+A 5.30 rupees 6.Blue Candle 7.Up+A 8.L1 I think it would be better to do it this way, since it's a few screens shorter and you would only need to get lucky once in the gambling game. You could also pick up an extra heart container on the way to 1, so you can have the magical sword for level 6 (though if you decide not to get the magical sword then just do Up+A after 4). 1.L3 2.Up+A 3.Gambling game 1x 4.Blue candle 5.L4 6.L1 21.Arrows 22.L6 23.Magical Sword If you get the heart container on the way to 1, it's better to do this. It's only 1 screen longer and level 6 has a lot of fighting so the magical sword is helpful. 21.Arrows 22.Magical Sword 23.L6
Posted: 4/30/2004 4:04 AM
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Michael_Fried
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You grabbed the sword too late. When playing on a real NES, you should hold down right as you enter the cave so that you're facing right, and then hold down right and up, and when you start walking you'll go straight towards the sword. That way you don't have to press right to turn at just the right atmoment to grab the sword as early as possible. After you get some practice in the later levels, do you plan on doing a speed run of the whole game?
Posted: 4/29/2004 4:33 AM
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Michael_Fried
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Here's another suggestion. I'm not sure if this has any use in a speed run, but if you ever need to turn around fast, you can let go of B for a frame as you turn around, and you won't slide as far as if you held down B for the whole time, and you'll start running in the opposite direction sooner. Edit: "but if you even need to turn around fast" doesn't make sense, so I fixed that typo (changing "even" to "ever").
Posted: 4/29/2004 4:28 AM
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Michael_Fried
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However, I have started using it from stage 4-1 Well the title of the movie is "Perfect Time by Genisto", so I guess that means you have to start all over, even if it's just for a quarter of a second :)
Posted: 4/29/2004 3:50 AM
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Michael_Fried
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Though I haven't tested it yet, I'm pretty sure the vine glitch is faster, though it would be a pitty not to get the mushroom because it looked pretty cool.
Posted: 4/29/2004 2:58 AM
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Michael_Fried
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I tried getting a mushroom and using the bricks to push Mario forward, and it was about half a second faster than taking the vine to the warp zone. However, I think doing the vine glitch to get Mario on the right edge of the screen would be even faster, but I haven't tried it yet. Since I'm not really in such a rush to get the video done, I've been lazy for the past few days and I haven't been working on it too much, but I'll get it done eventually. Where did you improve 3 frames? Are you using 60fps? I used the 60 fps hack to end 1-2 slightly better.
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