About bombchus: It would be fastest to get from the well if only you could do the wall clip off the spider without needing zelda's lullabye. Learning that song has so many extra cutscenes that it's invariably faster to go to spirit temple.
The thing is will the run use RBA and ToT skip, since if not you'll have to meet Zelda anyway. Although its not clear cut what method is faster, but the bombchus in the well must be taken into consideration.
EDIT: Now I think about it you need the Requiem, so going to the Spirit would be faster.
adelikat wrote:
I'm surprised a single thread can hold this much ego.
Sure would be nice to one day see AKA not be an elitist prick to every TASer around him.
I like how you only focus on my first sentence. It might prevent you jumping to conclusions in future.
I'm surprised how optimized this is although it still lacks the polish that me and SL are capable of, but I doubt it would take that long for you to adapt. One error you've made is not getting 20 ruppees in the room where the enemy mirrors you. After the Spirit you should do Jabu next. Also no major skips in a way is kind of arbitary since there is clipping glitches in the Forest, Fire, Water and Spirit Temple which are useful. Although not skipping the trials to me would make sense since the idea of doing these dungeons is so that you can get the items which are essential to completing the trials.
EDIT: If you're not doing RBA and ToT skip then you'd be better to get the bombchus from the well.
I've tried using varous settings and regardless of what I do the game always desyncs at the name entry screen. Have you played back the movie from the start to verify that the game syncs. Also you seemed to have enabled the rumble feature for this game.
Wouldn't a glitch run like Genisto's of SMB3 be really awesome for this game? (a little off topic i know) Just saying that the SMB3 run was far more entertaining then either the any% run or the 100% and considering a TAS is made for entertainment i think the glitchfest category should be considered amongst most games, especially OoT.
I'm sure there are tons of glitches and ways to entertain the viewer that never gets to be shown in an any% or 100% run? (Like that kokiri sword skip, thats exactly the kind of thing many viewers want to see)
Just adding an opinion here =P
Luckily you inserted the statement at the end because it sounds like you're trying to make your statement sound like some definitive fact. Personally I think the SMB3 doesn't show much more of the game than what the warp or warpless shows other than the same glitches used in different places. If you really want to see a bunch of miscellanous glitches there is a ton of them on YouTube.
IMO segmented runs (with restarts possible eg. at the beginning of each level) actually display *more* of the player's skill, not less.
Why? Because with a single-segment run the player is forced to play more carefully and cannot try the wildest tricks he is capable of, if those tricks are very dangerous and could easily cause the player to die, thus ruining the entire attempt.
A segmented run, however, allows for the player to truely show his skill at the game, without having to worry so much about dying and ruining 30 minutes of gameplay.
I don't know how you came to that conclusion, many of the segmented runs were just segmented for the sake of convenience, many have been subsequently beaten by a SS. I think the Sonic 2 and Mario 70+120 star runs are strong counterstatements to anyone who think SS runs elimate any risk. SS runs tend to tighten up towards the end of a run not throughout, since the runner doesn't want to wreck a good run by doing some trick that saves a miniscule amout of time, but only has a 10% success rate.
EDIT: I've tried doing individial level runs in Sonic, its mostly just trying to replicate a routine much like any racing game. You're not trying to react and deal sufficently with a sudden event. Something I would class more of as skill. You're replicating a routine through memorization that you've done possibly 100/1000s of times in the hope that you get lucky on the tight and random areas.
The water temple can pretty much be skipped entirely. All you have to do is march over to the boss key door, bomb hover and then jumpslash through it and glitch into the boss chamber.
I don't know what SL's priorites are atm, but the new run will go for fastest time at all costs. Technically you could have another category of all dungeons/temples but whether the community would be willing to accept that is up to debate.
No, AKA, I'm telling you that you suck for making this ridiculous and uncalled for argument. If "you'd rather see" a unique submission, don't watch it, go see a unique submission — a lot of them today. But starting a dumb argument suggesting this movie shouldn't be published because you don't need it? Dude, what the hell. Seriously.
1. At what point did I say 'this movie shouldn't be be published'
2. It is you whose making the ridiculous and uncalled argument
3. So I can only watch if I'll definitley pour praise over the submission?
4. You've misinterpreted what I've said to the point of making it sound like your own fantasy.
Moozooh and Mmbossman don't seem to differenciate between normal movies and fools day submissions. This is evident since you're trying to compare my points to every movie on the site. I'd rather see a unique fools day submission not one thats improved.
The purpose of this site is (or claims to be) to produce entertaining movies. If a "joke" submission created more entertainment for the viewers than the author intended, does that make it any less of a movie than one of your "serious" submissions?
No, that is the sin of spin. The purpose of the site is to produce good and entertaining movies relative to the game. If someone submitted a Super Metroid run which aims for the least number of door transitions would you want to see it published? Sure some may find it entertaining, but it would go far down the pecking order as to what are the best runs to watch for that particular game.
mmbossman wrote:
People were entertained by the first movie, and taking a look at the 13-1-1 vote as it stands, it seems people still find it entertaining. So, once again, I ask: If people find this entertaining, what's the big deal about what day it's submitted on?
Votes aren't important, reasons stated in the thread are. There is always the yes vote bias for every movie . As for the big deal about the ocassion, Todays more about concept than trying to reiterate and improve whats done before.
It's an improvement to a published movie. What is there to bitch about?
The previous movie was never meant to be a serious submission. Since Today is more about submitting an unexpected movie. This movie fails to meet that aspect.
It was unexpected 2 years ago, but has since become more than just a joke submission. If only unexpected movies are to be submitted on April 1st, should Cardboard not have submitted his CotM run? Or did you mean that only unique, never-before-seen runs should be submitted on april 1? I just really fail to see what point you're trying to make in defense of saying this movie isn't necessary.
You're dancing around the issue here. Cardboards movie is a serious submission. This and the other movie were intended as a joke submission i.e. April 1st. If I tell you the joke as to why did the chicken cross the road, you probally wouldn't find it funny since you've heard it a billion times in the past.
It's an improvement to a published movie. What is there to bitch about?
The previous movie was never meant to be a serious submission. Since Today is more about submitting an unexpected movie. This movie fails to meet that aspect.
