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zwataketa wrote:
Ummm .... Didnt this just become gruefood?
The submitter improved his run, cancelled the old one, and submitted again.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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zwataketa wrote:
THIS RUN IS AWESOME I DONT KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKIN ABOUT SAYING ITS BAD! >:(
And dont try to give me the "but its not optimized enough" or "its a bad game choice" because you're WRONG!
Relax.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. No matter how much you may disagree with them.
(Incidentally, this run doesn't have any no votes so far, so nobody really considered the run bad. Who are you even talking about?)
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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Mr. Pwnage wrote:
It doesn't have that, but neither does the latest SpeedFix.
SpeedFix has a command-line option to include it. And the original version has it as well.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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Mr. Pwnage wrote:
It's definitely bug-compatible with the important ones for a speedrun. In particular, the most outlandish bug listed is the ability for a chain-explosion to produce extra trons, and it certainly replicates that faithfully to allow me to save a bunch of time in levels 90, 94, and 98 (probably some more like 82 as well, but I haven't taken a detailed look at that level yet).
Go figure that if it handles that case correctly, emulating the other bugs is a relative cakewalk.
What about the red disk duplication bug?
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Spikestuff wrote:
Edit 2: Shoot, I hit No vote and not Meh wasn't paying attention can someone please change my vote.
I was going to give it a (weak) no vote, but I'll instead just give it a meh in your stead. That way, it all works out anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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Zowayix wrote:
I don't know if it would work in this game, but in SM64DS you can open the moat door early by causing Yoshi to clip through a wall in such a way so that Yoshi goes from being above the water to below the water without ever passing through the water's surface, so the game never renders Yoshi as "swimming".
While a similar wall clip glitch is probably not possible in SM64, could there be some other way to bypass the water's surface, such as by entering it at an extremely high speed? What happens if Mario in frame 1 is entirely above the water, and in frame 2 is entirely below the water?
In SM64 (not DS), at any time if Mario's height is under the water surface, he'll immediately get into a swimming state. So there's no way to clip through the water surface and walk on the floor as in SM64DS.
However, it has been proven possible that if Mario is only underwater and at the right position for 1 frame, he is still considered on the ground for 1 frame and can enter the door during that frame. (This was done with a cheat device; there's a video of it somewhere on YouTube). Also, when BLJing at extremely high speed from the slope/exit point of the moat, it's possible to get on the floor of the moat for 1frame.
Thus, the only theoretical possible way to get the moat door to open is to BLJ, and move from the slope (exit point) to the door position in 1 frame and have Mario enter the door. (Unless, of course, somebody finds out an entirely new way, but that seems unlikely). However, so far nobody has been able to do that, and it may very well be impossible in practice.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
<dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects.
<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
<dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects.
<Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits
<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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supersonicjc wrote:
am I the only one who saw the elec beam in wily 1 hit an enemy, im all for seeing this run get posted but as it stands right now for a buster only there's just no way since he hit a enemy with another weapon.
I noticed it as well when I watched it, although I hadn't addressed it. It's true that this technically disqualifies the category, but the run already has enough issues as is, and the effect is practically nonexistent.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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PKFC wrote:
Speaking of, was that emulator extension to make the magnet beam clearer nesticle only or something? That helped previous TASes.
Pretty sure it was for FCEU, considering the fact that those previous TASes around that time used FCEU.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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Vatchern wrote:
I don't understand why this movie is in the vault... lowest tier... :(
Its entertainment rating value is less than impressive.
For old runs, when the Vault tier was established, runs with an entertainment rating of 5.7 or lower were automatically put in the Vault. That's why this run is in the Vault.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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supersonicjc wrote:
also what is the difference between the US and Jap version what was your decision in doing the Jap version
The only difference is the graphics of the title screen. If I'm correct, all Mega Man 1 runs sync on both the USA and JPN versions.
Besides that, the MM1 runs on the site have always used the JPN version. It's practically tradition.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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I'm not really sold on the concept of a glitchless damageless buster-only run. It takes the three most interesting elements of speedrunning/TASing this game away, making the end result look quite bland.
I'm not really sure about the optimization level, either. TASing this game to optimal precision should require way more than 2500 rerecords. The lack of optimization is apparent during some boss battles, especially later on. In particular, the first fight with Bomb Man, the Cut Man refight, the Copy Mega Man fight, and the refights with Ice Man, Bomb Man and Guts Man have clear issues where the boss stops blinking sometimes, meaning you don't hit them as fast as you could. Some like Bomb Man and Cut Man suffer from bad luck manipulation, but the others have no such excuse. There are also other little things I'm doubtful about, such as switching weapons at less-than-optimal times.
I'm voting no. It lacks the entertainment, variety and glitches that Mega Man runs usually provide, and its optimization level is questionable.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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jlun2 wrote:
Mothrayas wrote:
sack_bot wrote:
this needs to move to off topic.
Yeah. Done.
Did we actually took a discussion about TASing a game about an elf kid and somehow turn it into a discussion on Autism?
TAS + Ocarina of Time = Autism?
How do you you even do that?
The primary discussion topic in this thread was autism right from the start.
The first post in this thread wrote:
is it O.K. for me to do this if I have Autism? I've been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome but I Love ocarina of time TAS. Is this allowed?
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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Yeah, it's had its use. DS TASing has been around for over 4 years now - it's not quite news anymore. I've unstickied it.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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sack_bot wrote:
this needs to move to off topic.
Yeah. Done.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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Where do these videos come from?
I see you uploaded this other "guy"'s videos to your own YouTube channel, but there's no reference as to where you got these videos from.
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It seems the issue appears when loading a savestate through the interface menu (File -> Loadstate doesn't seem to go from read to write properly). Use a savestate through the hotkeys instead (Shift+F1 to F9 to savestate, F1 to F9 to loadstate). That should work.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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Are you sure? If you're playing a movie, read-write mode is on and you then load a savestate, it should continue recording from that savestate on. If it claims that movie playback stopped, then you either didn't set it to read-write mode correctly or you didn't load a savestate correctly.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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Make sure that read-write mode is on (press Shift+8).
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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When in read-write mode, load a savestate, and the movie will continue to record from there.
You can also save a state at any point during the movie playback, and then load that state (in read-write mode) to continue recording.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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NitroGenesis wrote:
Thanks for the encouragement AngerFist.
So I went back and improved the first level.
1-1: Shoot your bird at the pig BUT FASTER
What do you think?
Amazing. TAS of the Year material right here.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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<adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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Continuing discussion from this thread (Resident Evil 4):
SoulCal wrote:
Mothrayas wrote:
Let me try to get the facts straight here:
1) SoulCal does not want his run on TASVideosChannel, or prominently visible on TASVideosChannel, because dumb YouTubers will misattribute the run to the uploader, or maybe other reasons.
It's also because I should not have to check another channel in order to read the feedback, and respond to that feedback, for something I created, unless I choose to do so.
Fair enough. Like I said, it could be any reason the author wants.
SoulCal wrote:
Mothrayas wrote:
2) Evidently, there are multiple exceptions to the TVC rule because these authors prefer having their run on their own channel. These exceptions can be granted for whatever reason the author wants, including recognition, viewcount, dollars, or anything else they can think of.
Idk if the exceptions are granted because the author wants it, or if the site wants it. That hasn't been made clear as to why there are exceptions for a rule for which there were to be no exceptions.
It's because the author wants it. If it were up to the site, all movies would get the TVC treatment. If the author objects to having their run to TVC, we link to their YouTube video instead.
SoulCal wrote:
Mothrayas wrote:
3) Thus, SoulCal can easily just state somewhere in the submission that he wants the publication YouTuber to be his own. No issues there, we have been down that road before.
Am I allowed to submit my dtm and make the request, but if denied I can withdraw my submission?
To my knowledge, I haven't ever seen such a request "denied" but even if so, until the run is published you can always cancel your submission.
However, I am quite sure that the site would much rather oblige to putting your YouTube link there than potentially losing a very good submission.
SoulCal wrote:
Mothrayas wrote:
So unless I'm missing something, there shouldn't be any problem with submitting?
Well the partial problem extends from your #3, as we've had no response from someone high up on the site declare a yes or no. I don't want to submit my run and have my request denied, and then lose the rights to my dtm.
Okay, I understand if you want to have definite written proof from a site admin or so before submission. In that case, I'll see if we can get one of the admins to respond about this situation.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa
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