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Bosses don't appear until Mega Man lands on solid ground and becomes immobile (and thus can't use Rain Flush), so that wouldn't work. Case in point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzscgxz8Hho
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It doesn't help that with the Gold Armor, charging up for the saber is going to be much slower than usual. Instead of charging up to yellow, you have to charge up past yellow to pink and green and then dump two charge shots before finally being able to use the saber. Such long charging would probably decrease entertainment.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa <dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects. <Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits <adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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In the published run, going through Vile's stage takes 2 minutes and 10 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa <dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects. <Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits <adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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I agree with Sir VG, this hack is much worse than the other one you submitted. Also, the play looks sloppier in this run. In Heat Man's stage, you use the pause-to-reset-vertical-momentum-glitch too much, and Heat Man isn't optimized; you don't always let him charge for the shortest amount of time, and you let him move too much. I've only seen Heat Man's stage, but I think I have to vote no for this one.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa <dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects. <Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits <adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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That's the same route as was posted earlier in the thread, (8th post), only with Toxic Seahorse and Gravity Beetle swapped around. (I don't think having either done before the other matters, though) Btw, I can't wait to see more WIPs. Are you going to kill Vile and/or get the Z-Saber? And what about Bit and Byte?
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa <dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects. <Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits <adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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The glitching makes up for it, though. If you want to see more gameplay I'd suggest you to watch the MM3-6 runs.
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I'm now making a serious run of this game: Here's a new WIP, which is 739 frames faster than the previous WIP. Most improvements come from better luck manipulation (better cars, causing cops to show up more) and improved routes. I did waste time inputting a player name and setting the game's SFX volume to max (so you can hear sfx like cop sirens better) - but this only takes around 50-60 frames, so it's not much of a loss.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa <dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects. <Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits <adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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The only stage that comes close is Infinity Mijinion's stage. You may want to test if that's faster.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa <dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects. <Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits <adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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antd wrote:
In several guides, they mention the best way to complete this game is to alternate between the gangs missions. For example, loonies green missions then zaibatsu green missions. I may try it out to see how good this game looks...
This is the best way to get the most money on the long run, but this requires a lot of shuffling around respect by killing gangsters and driving all the way across the town several times (which takes a long time).
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By what I know (it's what I did in the past), the fastest way would be: 1 - begin the game (hahaha) 2 - go get the free war tank (in the first city I remember he is more or less on the right diagonal inferior part of the map) 3 - keep destroying cars and the police, killing everyone you see until you get the necessary money to go to the next city. (it will take some 4 or 5 minutes by what i remember) 4 - in the second and third city do the same. 5 - done. (yeah, unfornatelly the necessary to beat this game is only money, not missions acomplished) or... you decide to finish the game without the tank
Without multipliers this will take way too long, and it's also very repetitive. I think the best way to do it is to focus on only one gang: 1st green mission: $20000 2nd green mission: $20000*2 (total $60000) 1st yellow mission: $40000*3 (total $180000) 2nd yellow mission: $40000*4 (total $340000) and then either the 1st red mission or the 3rd yellow mission; both give enough cash to go past $500000, which I believe is the minimum necessary in the PSX version to complete the level. Here's a quick WIP I made, doing the first two Yakuza missions.
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amaurea wrote:
I thought Gruefood Delight was a hand-picked set of enjoyable gruefood runs, not an automatically updated list of all submissions sorted by game, category and completion time. I think both would be nice to have.
You mean like this? EDIT: ****, ninja'd.
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RAM values CCF60-CCF63 keep track of the in game clock; the one on the pause screen and Mission Clear screen, at least. Funny note, once CCF63 surpasses 128 (which would need 256*256*256*128=2147483648 frames (which is roughly 9942 hours / 414 days)) the timer glitches out on the subscreen, using random icons instead of numbers and sometimes placing glitch blocks all over the screen.
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For those who didn't know already, AngerFist, Atma, FractalFusion and I have started an 8-boss run for the game. Here's the WIP for the intro stage (stage by Atma, bosses by me) and Rainy Turtloid's secondary area (stage and boss by me). Now, since I've reached the point just before the eight bosses are going to be fought, I wanted to revise the route a final time and make sure that it's the fastest. Bringing in some facts: Damage chart:
*a hyphen implies a character cannot be hit with the move. 0 damage implies that a move can be used, but does no damage.
*hitting Yammark with his own dragonflies does 3 damage to him.
*Guard Shell reflectable projectiles:
Blizzard Wolfang: Icicles, Ice balls
Metal Shark Player: Blast Hornet's hornets (not his anchors)
Shieldner Sheldon: His own Guard Shell shots (does no damage, though)
Infinity Mijinion: Orange balls (not purple lasers or bubbles)

ZS-TJ: Z-Saber Triple Jab (first hit, second hit, third hit)
ZSA: Z-Saber in the air (normal, circle)
ZSW: Z-Saber from wall
ZSC: Z-Saber crouch
ZBU: Z-Buster
YAM: Yammar option (shots, contact)
HYO: Hyoroga
SHO: Shoenzan
RAK: Rakukojin (spear, anchor)
SEN: Sentsuizan
ENS: Ensuizan
GSH: Guard Shell
REK: Rekkoha

                   ZS-TJ|ZSA|ZSW|ZSC|ZBU|YAM|HYO|SHO|RAK|SEN|ENS|GSH|REK
Commander Yammark  2:2:5|2:2| 2 | 2 | 4 |0:0| - | 2 |2:2| 2 | 2 | - | 8
Blizzard Wolfang   1:1:2|2:2| 2 | 2 | 4 |1:2| - | 8 |2:2| 2 | 2 | 2 | 0
Blaze Heatnix      2:2:5|2:2| 2 | 2 | 4 |1:2| 2 | 0 |2:2| 6 | 2 | - | 0
Metal Shark Player 2:2:5|2:2| 2 | 2 | 4 |1:2| - | 2 |4:0| 2 | 6 | 2 | 0
Ground Scaravich   1:1:2|2:2| - | 2 | 4 |5:5| - | 2 |2:2| 0 | 2 | - | 0
Rainy Turtloid     1:1:2|2:2| 2 | 2 | 4 |1:2| - | 2 |2:2| 2 | 2 | - | 0
Shieldner Sheldon  2:2:5|2:2| 2 | 0 | 4 |1:2| - | 2 |8:5| 2 | 2 | 0 | 0
Infinity Mijinion  2:2:5|2:2| 2 | 2 | 4 |1:2| - | 2 |2:2| 2 | 2 | 8 | 0
And a boss HP chart:
Boss HP:               L1   L2   L3   L4

Commander Yammark      32   36   44   48
Blizzard Wolfang       48   50   52   54
Blaze Heatnix          48   48   52   56
Metal Shark Player     48   48   52   56
Ground Scaravich       40   40   40   40
Rainy Turtloid         56   56   60   64
Shield Sheldon         32   36   44   48
Infinity Mijinion      48   48   52   56
First four bosses are level 1, fifth and sixth are level 2, and the seventh and eighth are level 3. Level 4 appears in Sigma's fortress, in the rematches. It takes three stages (or two stages and 13 nightmare souls, which is viable in Infinity Mijinion) (500 souls total) to be able to equip Hyper Dash. After four stages Saber Plus can be used. This is the current route: -Shieldner Sheldon (stage is very short and doesn't really benefit from most weapons (except Yammar Option, maybe), boss has low health (32)) -Infinity Mijinion (stage is also short, Guard Shell helps with minibosses and defeating numerous Nightmares to be able to equip Hyper Dash earlier; also removes a time-costing Nightmare in Commander Yammark's stage) -Commander Yammark (has low health (32) and a very useful weapon) -Rainy Turtloid (has a useful weapon that can cause an invincibility glitch that is useful for Metal Shark Player and Blizzard Wolfang's stages) -Blaze Heatnix (weapon saves a few frames against Blizzard Wolfang) -Metal Shark Player (removes time-costing Nightmare effect on Ground Scaravich's stage, replaces it by a possibly time-gaining effect) -Blizzard Wolfang -Ground Scaravich (for some reason, his health doesn't increase as his level increases).
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa <dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects. <Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits <adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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I either pronounce it like Guybrush does it or like the Dutch word 'tas' (bag).
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There's only one area where you have to move left in Scaravich's stage, and that is in the circular, longest route. And it doesn't even rain in there. At the same time, Shark's blocks can actually be beneficial in the aquatic background section where you have to go up (I think this is one of the faster places). Really, the fastest places in Scaravich's stages are, as far as I know: -One of the Egyptian style areas, at least -The aquatic style area where you have to go up and for the second round: -at least one of the space style areas -either the other space style area, or the dino style maze area (not the circular one) I don't think Shark's blocks are a big hindrance in any of them. Rain is a definite time loss.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa <dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects. <Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits <adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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Route change yet again! I found that the level system is really messed up. For example, Blaze Heatnix doesn't have anything changed at all (HP-wise at least) between level 1 and 2 and Ground Scaravich always has the same HP, regardless of whether he's level 1 or level 4. Since Sentsuizan does the same damage as a Saber Plus-ed final hit of a triple slash, it's rather pointless to do Scaravich before Heatnix. His 'resistance' to SDC (taking only 1 damage from a single slash instead of the standard 2) also makes it slower to fight him anywhere after when we get Saber Plus. At the same time, there's still Rainy Turtloid's nightmare effect slowing things down in his stage (said effect can only be removed by doing Metal Shark Player after Turtloid, and Scaravich after that). Also, there's still the fact that his HP doesn't increase anyway. Conclusion: Drop Scaravich to last place. Now, since we can't get Saber Plus after four bosses, it's still time-wasting to do Heatnix as the fourth boss. Basically we need some filler inbetween. Rainy Turtloid is the only really viable option at this point, even though he shares the same SDC-'resistance' as Scaravich. New route: Turtloid secondary area (get Zero) > Shield Sheldon > Infinity Mijinion > Commander Yammark > Rainy Turtloid > Blaze Heatnix > Blizzard Wolfang > Metal Shark Player > Ground Scaravich
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa <dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects. <Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits <adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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Even if Heatnix is level 1, X still has inferior damage output, even with Ground Dash, and he still misses out on Hyper Dash.
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Satoryu wrote:
I thought it was determined that Guard Shell was not worth using in a TAS. pault had comparison videos made a while ago, showing that SDCing Turtloid with Guard Shell was slower than wthout. I always smelled a rat with those videos, to be honest. The irregular pace he SDCed with GS just doesn't seem right. But also, he was using the old method of SDC, not the one Fractalfusion came up with. I don't know how well GS works with the new method.
Yeah, Guard Shell probably isn't going to save much time on most (or even all) bosses. It might save time in Infinity Mijinion's stage, however, because with Guard Shell the minibosses can be beaten with a single air slash. EDIT: Guard Shell is only one hit away from a one slash kill. Still works decently as a timesaver, though.
Satoryu wrote:
You could beat 2 bosses and collect 13 soul orbs in their stages. That might not be possible with the stages you have in mind, though.
There are several Nightmares in Infinity Mijinion's level (which can be quickly beaten by air slashing with Guard Shell through them), which in turn allows Zero to use Hyper Dash in the much longer Yammark level. That would probably be a timesaver. EDIT: Just tested, it's easy to get 13 souls without wasting too much time, so that will be of help as well.
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Mothrayas wrote:
if Rekkoha, Yammar Option or Guard Shell don't kill the donut minibosses quickly, I don't know what does
Charged Metal Anchor is the fastest way to deal with them. However, X is not going to be able to equip Hyper Dash for Heatnix's stage without already beating at least 2 other bosses with him. I don't know if a Zero w/ Hyper Dash can beat an X without.
To use Metal Anchor would mean that either Metal Shark Player (as well as Ground Scaravich to not make Heatnix himself take ages to defeat) would have to be done before Turtloid, missing out on his weakness weapon and the Ensuizan invincibility glitch, or we'd have to wait and do Heatnix as one of the last bosses, leveling him up more to make the boss fight longer still. I think the best option is to see if it's possible to one-shot them with Rekkoha, and otherwise use the massive damage Rekkoha does anyway and finish off the rest with Yammar Option or maybe Guard Shell.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa <dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects. <Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits <adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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I revised the route again: First, we'll get Zero through Rainy Turtloid's secondary area, grabbing Z-Saber Plus and Hyper Dash along the way. Now, we need rank A to be able to use 1 part. For rank A we need 500 Nightmare souls. This typically means destroying 3 Investigators for 200 souls each, so we'll do three short or otherwise useful stages first: Shield Sheldon, Commander Yammark and Infinity Mijinion. I don't know which of these is faster: -Doing Sheldon before Yammark to use Guard Shell to beat Yammark faster (possibly; using the menu to activate Guard Shell costs time); -Doing Yammark before Sheldon to change the mirrors' direction faster; Additionally, since Rainy Turtloid causes Yammark's final area to be rainy, slowing rightward speed, and Mijinion removes that, Mijinion may be faster to do before Yammark; this means viable routes would be either Sheldon>Mijinion>Yammark or Yammark>Sheldon>Mijinion. I'm currently leaning towards the former. Doing Sheldon before Mijinion allows Zero to whomp the two minibosses (cables) somewhat faster through usage of Guard Shell. Now that we have enough souls to equip one part, we'll equip Hyper Dash and the next boss will be Scaravich, because using Sentsuizan on a level 2 Heatnix is probably faster than triple slash and Z-Buster on a level 1 Heatnix. Heatnix should be done after this. (if Rekkoha, Yammar Option or Guard Shell don't kill the donut minibosses quickly, I don't know what does). If Sentsuizan on level 2 Heatnix is slower, (I doubt it though), we'll skip Scaravich until last and do Heatnix now. The sixth (fifth if Scaravich would be skipped) boss to fight is Rainy Turtloid because on sixth place it's the last one to fight before they go to level 3 (iirc) and Ensuizan's invincibility glitch is useful on both remaining stages, Metal Shark Player and Blizzard Wolfang. Those two can be done interchangably, though I recommend Wolfang being done first in case Scaravich's blocks stick around to hinder you in Metal Shark Player's stage. So the final route is: Turtloid 2nd (get Zero) > Shield Sheldon > Infinity Mijinion > Commander Yammark > Ground Scaravich > Blaze Heatnix > Rainy Turtloid > Blizzard Wolfang > Metal Shark Player. (I just realized that this nearly exactly the regular boss weakness order, the only exceptions being Turtloid and Wolfang being switched around. Lol.)
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa <dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects. <Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits <adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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I just TASed Rainy Turtloid's stage to see how much slower it is. I copied the intro stage input from FractalFusion's published X6 run and pasted a Rainy Turtloid TAS behind it: I hit Nightmare Zero's second boss gate at frame 18999. For comparison, FractalFusion hits Shield Sheldon's secondary level's secondary boss gate at frame 16235. It's a 2764 frames (46 seconds) difference. PXM movie file This means it's definitely worth it to get Hyper Dash and Z-Saber Plus.
http://www.youtube.com/Noxxa <dwangoAC> This is a TAS (...). Not suitable for all audiences. May cause undesirable side-effects. May contain emulator abuse. Emulator may be abusive. This product contains glitches known to the state of California to cause egg defects. <Masterjun> I'm just a guy arranging bits in a sequence which could potentially amuse other people looking at these bits <adelikat> In Oregon Trail, I sacrificed my own family to save time. In Star trek, I killed helpless comrades in escape pods to save time. Here, I kill my allies to save time. I think I need help.
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wicked wrote:
is this realy the best route taken? its looking painfiull see megaman shooting the bosses with his x-buster. by the way, as mentioned above, killing zero is obligation to get the zero saber, and also for saving time in the game.
Shooting bosses with the X-Buster is still faster than revisiting stages over and over again, which would look even more painful. Also, keeping Zero alive could also count as a 'percent', and also counts for 'best ending'. Not having the saber also gives us more entertaining boss battles in the rematches.
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Baxter wrote:
Whoah! If that can be used in most stages, it will probably not add to the entertainment value of the movie... would this mean two categories?
"Extremely Glitched" and "Even More Extremely Glitched"?
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Does anyone have a save file with everything (at least the Boss Battles mode) unlocked, so I could test things like that?
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Elpis TK31 wrote:
Rapid fire the hive? with what? Model A >.> that takes forever compared to deerburn spamming triple arrows. Also, Helios can't outperform Rospark in damage on Kaizemine.
At the begin of the fight you automatically revert to Model A anyway. And Buckfire's triple arrows aren't spammable - they take a few frames after shooting until input is accepted again, and even then it takes some more frames to fire. So Model A would be faster, being able to fire every other frame. You're probably right about Rospark being faster, though.
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On Condorock: Also, Dragon > JumpSlash > GroundSlash is Thetis' Damage Barrier ignoring combo. But Helios should be better yeah X_X
I'll look into that. Next question: Which route should I take for the 4 bosses that can be done in any order? -Aeolus/Thetis/Vulturon/Queenbee (doing Thetis with Aeolus) or -Thetis/Aeolus/Vulturon/Queenbee (doing Thetis with Model A or Atlas(?) and Aeolus with Thetis)?
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That route posted earlier in the thread is old and slightly outdated. For Queenbee, I'll rapid-fire the hive and then use either Rospark or Aeolus/Helios to finish off the rest. Condorrock/Vultoron will be done with Aeolus, using the triple combo as much as possible. I don't think Thetis has any invincibility ignoring combos, so I'll use Aeolus for that, again using the triple combo as much as possible. From there on I'll mostly use ZX's triple jab, as that seems to be the fastest method to deal damage, along with Aeolus's triple jab.
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