It actually might be!!! Its something that requires frame testing though. It would make sense if it was because he/she's landing in his/her death spot and is swooping down at you instead of dieing then falling to his/her death spot. It also might be no difference at all.
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That was incredible!!! BTW what happened to the game after Draygon? It looked a lot like the graphical errors the Space Time Glitch produces. What caused that?
Anyway this TAS was incredibly entertaining!!! I hope it gets published, well done!!! :D
Hoandjzj, hows the 100% coming along?
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Cpadolf wrote:
Doing the route Hoandjzj used, with some improvements in the rooms I would have "skipped" otherwise,, was much faster in the end anyway. And it is indeed possible to do that blueball.
Interesting I figured as much. Nice I'm sure its faster and I'm positive you thought about it long before I even mentioned it. Damn that TAS Super Short Charge is ridiculous!!! Its like Samus is walking with echos. :) It seems we'll be seeing the final result very, very soon!!!
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Cpadolf wrote:
Wow, okay so due to some very odd glitch, it seems you can't shinespark after getting out of that morphball tunnel with the lasers, if you do so you immediately get the crash animation, even though you didn't hit anything.
It does look like it might have been faster to do it the old way anyway though.
Well that sucks. :(
What do you plan to do for the route now? Also I'm sure you already thought of this, but I'll just ask anyway. At the end just above the ship is it possible to Super Short Charge and Blue Ball into the hole and destroy the bomb block?
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Cpadolf wrote:
lxx4xNx6xxl wrote:
Cpadolf wrote:
It doesn't look like it's possible to get through that morphball passage with all the lasers in just 3 hits. At least I can't seem to find a way.
Your talking about the escape at the end where that Hunter Shaft is right?
Dunno what the room would be called, but I guess so, yeah. It's a vertical room with a bunch of gray pirates, and it's really near your ship.
Anyway, I can do it in 4 hits, but it looks like it'd be faster to it the way Hoandjzj did it.
Yea that's the area I thought you were talking about. Do you need the Spring Ball to do it Hoandjzj's way?
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Hoandjzj wrote:
lxx4xNx6xxl wrote:
Also I saw your Botwoon kill and escape. Holy shit that's glitchy. What the hell did you do exactly? Was it because of the Power Bomb you laid after?
No, it requires Power Bomb to go down!
The screen only can scroll after Botwoon is totally death, but that time I land on the 2nd floor, so it looks like I'm moving through screen :D
Oh, OK! That's just some crazy glitchy stuff then.
I know in the real game if you exit fast enough before the music ends in Botwoon's Lair and go back in the room he will still be in the room. I guess glitchy shit just seems to happen with Botwoon.
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Awesome, I know I can't wait till hes finished!!! :D
Also I saw your Botwoon kill and escape. Holy shit that's glitchy. What the hell did you do exactly? Was it because of the Power Bomb you laid after?
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Is there still a need for the Power Bombs in that area with the X-Ray Scope or is that area skipped entirely? Also is there even a need for Power Bombs in the run now?
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Iirc, lxx4xNx6xxl is going to use the same route as Behemoth (World record holder on SDA). Behemoth got 48min 100% run on PAL. Take a look at his page:
http://www.youtube.com/user/giganotabehemoth87#p/c/2503980255897DB7
Anyway, he is going for early power bombs using the hero shot up in Brinstar shaft, so he can pick up the missile in kraid's area without backtracking there later and this way he can use some pb shortcuts. Go through Norfair to pick up speedbooster, wave beam and ice beam, go to Wrecked Ship, back through Crateria till Brinstar elevator next to the first Super Missile, some clean up there and head to Maridia. After maridia he goes to Lower Norfair. After killing Ridley he goes back and go to fight Crocomire and get the Grapple beam. After that he goes back through Brinstar, heading for blue brinstar area and up to Crateria again, so he goes for the pb up right to the ship and shinespark through the gauntlet, so he goes to Torian.
Anyway, it will be better for you to take a look at Behemoth's page and watch his 48min 100% run, it's amazing.
Reeve? I was gonna guess Reeve but, then you through me off by asking me if I'm going for a 100%. BTW thanks for explaining the route, I would hate to type all that out. Anyway yea I even do different strategies the Behemoth, so watch for those!!! Also I'm gonna have one more Segment then Behemoth because of the Dreaded Metroid Skip on NTSC!!! He is but a docile creature on PAL.
Hoandjzj wrote:
@lxx4xNx6xxl: nice movie on your channel :D I'm curious about the route you'll go on your SM 100% ;)
Thanks Hoandizj, I really appreciate it!!! :D
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Yea I re-post on Saturday. I'm switching over to Justin TV anyway so I pretty much have to re-post it. Its better quality then Ustream and it also has better features. I'll keep you posted!!! :D
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Eye Of The Beholder wrote:
Oh sorry about that. I didn't see the speedbooster in that link and thought you only posted the "Whust" one.
I watched your Ceres segment and it was really nice, actually you know me from m2k2 but with another nick. hehehe... Are you practicing segment 2? any problems with it? Iirc youre going for 100, right?
Oh really!!! Eye of the Beholder just who are you? Should I guess or is it something I'll never figure out?
Anyway thanks I really appreciate that!!! I actually could have went for a better time, but its just Ceres. Yes I'm going for a 100% Run. I'll probably be streaming practice sessions on Saturday. Actually been going pretty well though I haven't played in a week but, the skills come back quickly. I might actually make some attempts on Saturday depending how I feel.
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Eye Of The Beholder wrote:
Yeah, i thought it could be v15 or an older cause i used v15 and it played it well, but to play Kriole last two movies i had to use v17.
Btw, here is the speedbooster.avi with the improvement kriole posted:
http://www.4shared.com/video/raRPy39R/Speedbooster.html
BTW I already posted that before along with the other file, thanks anyway though!!!
Hoandjzj wrote:
lxx4xNx6xxl wrote:
Speaking of real time. I'll probably be streaming some practice sessions for my next Segment of the real game this Saturday coming up. If you guys are interested I'll post the link to my channel on that day!!! Might even make some real time attempts depending on how I'm feeling with the 2nd Segment!!! :D
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I'm been using 1.43 v17 which is the latest version. I'm sorry I didn't state that earlier. I since they were able to see his first file I assumed the Rom may have been a different version. Kriole probably should have said that he switched to v17 when they asked what version he was using. I forgot what version I was on all I knew is it was the latest version and I was to lazy to look it up until now.
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No problem man, anytime!!!
At least in real time you can stop it from being a reset.
Speaking of real time. I'll probably be streaming some practice sessions for my next Segment of the real game this Saturday coming up. If you guys are interested I'll post the link to my channel on that day!!! Might even make some real time attempts depending on how I'm feeling with the 2nd Segment!!! :D
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Hoandjzj wrote:
I can't play Kriole's smv :S what did you guys mention above, I don't get it XD
lxx4xNx6xxl, please make avi file (but please don't upload it to zshare, it doesn't work with me b-()
I'm I allowed to post the hacked rom here? Maybe because you guys don't have the latest versions.
If you can download it, I can put them both on Megaupload if you want?
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I can play both of your movies. That's pretty weird he can't play yours though. Well I have the .avi ready it he wants to see it. I would just have to upload it.
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Cpadolf wrote:
Kriole wrote:
Cpadolf wrote:
Btw, Kriole, where you testing for something in particular there? I'm asking since it looks like that video has my TAS as a starting point (same ammo/energy/equipment), and I'm curious :P
Just checking if it can't be improved. I saw that you shot the door higher than you needed to.
Also your edgehogging is suboptimal - you're not supposed to be locked in the turn animation when the debris crumbles.
Pie
Should be hexable.
Hmm, for some reason I still can't watch this smv. Which is weird because the one you posted a few pages back went just fine. Did you actually save anything on that door, or was it just the egehogging? (because I have already remade that second room for a different reason)
Do you want me to make it into a video file? BTW it could be the Rom Hack your using.
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Kriole wrote:
lxx4xNx6xxl wrote:
Interesting, but do you stay stuck in the wall or can you get out?
Don't think you ever get out. Samus has to actually hit a wall to stop (or run out of energy, not relevant in this hack however), and since the game doesn't really think she ever does, she will just keep sparking.
Wow that sucks, especially if it happens while just playing through it!!!
