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Posted: 10/8/2005 9:40 PM
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Rick
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Personally, from what I've seen, if something gets submitted, then people will kinda come back to it at some point later on to make it faster, even if it's relatively obscure (See also: Atlantis no Nazo) I'd love to just see this published, then maybe there could be some major competition for this later on. Besides, I really wanna see an un-desynichifed version. =D
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Posted: 10/8/2005 4:47 AM
Post subject: Holy geez I make stupid cheap flash movie.
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http://www.deviantart.com/view/23730742/ Yeah, I'm just learning the thing. I have a bizarre sense of humor as well. May do more of these if I feel like it, because after all, it's good practice for my Flash course I'm taking right now in college. Thank you, Arfenhouse, for forever warping my mind.
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Posted: 10/8/2005 1:21 AM
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Y'know, I like it when someone plays a bad game in an interesting manner. I know this has been long dead in the queue, but what the hell, I'm still giving it a thumbs-up anyway.
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Posted: 10/5/2005 4:44 AM
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That's the same one I've been using. The checksum matches with me. I dunno, things just have a bad habit of desynching on me even though the checksum matches and I really don't know why. I think that would be a conversation for PMs or AIM or something.
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Posted: 10/5/2005 4:04 AM
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I'm using the right ROM. It didn't desynch in the first version either, but for some reason it does in the second and third. But I suppose it wouldn't hurt to double-check. tool, what version of the ROM are you using?
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Posted: 10/5/2005 4:01 AM
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Once again, the thing desynched for me after the Spring Shoes. I don't know why it's doing that on my end. Other than that, it's great. I really hope this one gets published so I can see the AVI and then bombard you with more praise. ^_^
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Posted: 10/5/2005 1:58 AM
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Just outta curiousity, does anyone else get a desynch after getting the spring shoes? It seems like Benny doesn't make it around the corner, and when the toon patrol comes, he turns and drives right into 'em.
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Posted: 10/5/2005 1:56 AM
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Well hey, give it a try and see what happens. Maybe it'll fix the desynch on the movie or something. *Shrug*
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Posted: 10/4/2005 5:16 PM
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I'm kind of against that idea personally because most of the entertainment comes from finding the items so fast to get to Doom, and if you take that out, it would just feel like watching your best friend put in the password and beat the game. All nice and all, but there's little entertainment involved aside from watching your friend play.
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Posted: 10/3/2005 10:39 AM
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I haven't seen much of it due to the desynch, but I've seen enough. It looks wicked awesome so far, and I'm amazed to see that the death tricks, combined with the other stuff we talked about, knocked off almost a whole minute in the run. Great work, it's got a yes from me, and thanks for the mention. =D
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Posted: 10/3/2005 10:31 AM
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The movie desynchs for me soon after you get the Spring Shoes.
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Posted: 10/2/2005 10:55 PM
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Shoot, I forgot all about Benny in those runs. So here's the plans re-made: PATH #1 - Get the wallet from outside Valiant's office and leave. - Go to the store and buy the Dynamite. - Pick up Benny the Cab. - Stop at Building #23 and grab the Spring Shoes. - Start heading toward Outside L.A. - Stop at Building #18 and grab the Detonator via a death. (Death #1) - Go outside L.A. - Go to the closest cave and get the Will Piece via a death. (Death #2) - Go back to L.A. and grab the second Will Piece via a death (Death #3) - You have the Dynamite and Detonator, go to Toontown now. =D - Basically, the last half of the movie is the same as the movie that was submitted earlier. PATH #2 - Leave Valiant's Office - Pick up Benny the Cab - Stop at Building #23 and grab the Spring Shoes. - Start heading toward Outside L.A. - Stop at Building #18 and grab the Detonator via a death. (Death #1) - Go outside L.A. - Go to the closest cave and get the Will Piece via a death. (Death #2) - Go back to L.A. and grab the second Will Piece via a death (Death #3) - Stop into Building #20 and grab the Dynamite - You have the Dynamite and Detonator, go to Toontown now. =D - Basically, the last half of the movie is the same as the movie that was submitted earlier. --- You're probably right about using the whistle to skip the long roads, but you still go slower on foot than in the cab. I dunno, I feel like all the trouble to get the whistle just wouldn't really be worth the trouble to go dying again. Perhaps instead of going through all that work to get the whistle, try to pick it up at the store after you get the Will piece outside of L.A. since it is the item that shows up after the dynamite, though I don't know if by that time, the item will have switched or not. If it has switched, then bam, just pick it up on the way and use Path #1, since you can buy two things on one wallet pickup.
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Posted: 10/2/2005 7:13 PM
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You can find it, but there's not much it's really good for in a speed run.
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Posted: 10/2/2005 5:39 PM
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I believe they change according to which frame you press [Start] on. I've seen an unguarded will in the Gag Factory before in casual playing, yet have not seen the will in the cave as you found it on your submitted run.
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Posted: 10/2/2005 5:16 PM
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If you don't mind and have time, you ought to do both of the paths I suggested and see which one is actually the fastest. I don't think that either of my paths would be that much faster, if they even are faster, but I think it makes the run a lot more interesting. Sometimes with the death trick to get the items too, you won't go into the animation where Valiant falls on his butt and shakes his fist, sometimes he'll just stand there unable to move. I'd suggest seeing if this is possible for at least one of the deaths. If you really want to do a Minimal Item run, use the second path I gave. If you want to use the path I think is quickest, use the first path. I'm kind of curious to see how they all compare to one-another.
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Posted: 10/2/2005 3:53 PM
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I think this would be good at least for a minimal item run. Unless you can see that it actually saves some frames by dying. In fact, that is a good idea. I'm gonna go watch that speed run again and garner some ideas. ---EDIT--- - You can die four times before it's "Game Over". So you can die three times with "no penalty", so to speak. - Frames can be saved by not going to get the cheese or the crowbar. - The first items that have to be picked up are the wallet, the dynamite, and the Spring Shoes. In that order. - If you're actually not bothering to use the cheese or rattle, there's three deaths that have to be done in order to get the items without using them. One is a will piece, the other is the detonator, and the other is the rattle. Since we're ignoring the rattle, that means two deaths would be necessary. - Getting the cheese and crowbar can be skipped entirely. Since we're buying the dynamite from the store, that can be skipped too. So basically, as soon as you get the Spring Shoes, you can go right up to the north, outside L.A, and get the will piece there. CURRENT PATH - Get the wallet from outside Valiant's office and leave. - Go to the store and buy the Dynamite. - Stop at Building #23 and grab the Spring Shoes. - Start heading toward Outside L.A. - Stop at Building #18 and grab the Detonator via a death. (Death #1) - Go outside L.A. - Go to the closest cave and get the Will Piece via a death. (Death #2) - Go back to L.A. and grab the second Will Piece via a death (Death #3) - You have the Dynamite and Detonator, go to Toontown now. =D - Basically, the last half of the movie is the same as the movie that was submitted earlier. REQUIRED ITEMS - Wallet - Dynamite - Spring Shoes - Detonator - The Will - Baseball And one last note, are there five or six will pieces? o_O [EDIT] On a second note, another possibility is to actually skip the wallet altogether and just pick up the dynamite from the building. So, here's the second possible path. - Leave Valiant's Office - Stop at Building #23 and grab the Spring Shoes. - Start heading toward Outside L.A. - Stop at Building #18 and grab the Detonator via a death. (Death #1) - Go outside L.A. - Go to the closest cave and get the Will Piece via a death. (Death #2) - Go back to L.A. and grab the second Will Piece via a death (Death #3) - Stop into Building #20 and grab the Dynamite - You have the Dynamite and Detonator, go to Toontown now. =D - Basically, the last half of the movie is the same as the movie that was submitted earlier.
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Posted: 10/2/2005 3:04 PM
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I was just referring to the Judge Doom glitch, and this trick to nab the item from the guard animals. I don't know what else can be exploited with this trick, but I'm sure there's got to be something further you can do with them. At least now we can see that the Rattle isn't necessary for game completion.
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Posted: 10/2/2005 1:36 PM
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I stumbled upon this by accident, but I found out that yes indeed, you can grab whatever item a guard animal guards, but you'll have to sacrifice a life to do so. You'll once again need the spring shoes for it, and you have to leap and hit the enemy in such a way that your bounce will propel you forward onto the item, and even though you're dead, you still get the item. Unfortunately, this isn't useful at all in a TAS unless you're sacrificing time for entertainment. I've really come across some odd Spring Shoes tricks. Seems that the programmers didn't really keep those things in mind.
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Posted: 10/1/2005 3:40 AM
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Say, just out of curiousity, do you think it would be quicker to pick up the wallet and buy the dynamite at the store instead of picking it up? Just a suggestion.
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Posted: 9/30/2005 2:34 PM
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Absolutely yes! That Judge Doom fight was sweet. I was going to test beating him without Game Genie, but I never got around to seeing if you could hit him and he'd go backwards without having a full-strength punch. Kudos to you. ^_^
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Posted: 9/30/2005 1:52 AM
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Try it now, the renaming thing didn't process last time.
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Posted: 9/30/2005 12:21 AM
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Well, not like it's actually useful, but with the help of the Spring Shoes, I replicated the glitch I did to make Doom go away. He does go back eventually, but have fun playing around with your new-found freedom. =D http://www.webpost.net/ri/rickglitchvids/wfrr_doomglitch.fcm
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Posted: 9/29/2005 4:14 AM
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Great job there, Tool. Looks like the game can have, possibly, a sub-8 minute completion there. A lot less items seemed to be needed than I thought as well...so far. Someone's going to have to defeat Judge Doom first and then we can discard needed items.
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Posted: 9/27/2005 5:34 PM
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If you find an mp3 of that, send it my way. I'm very much interested in hearing it. ^_^ I also wanted to mention that on a playthrough of the game, I found one of the Will pieces lying around at the Gag Factory. I wanted to have someone else verify this so that perhaps I can plan a route for someone who does want to do a speed run. I also discovered that the dynamite AND detonator are randomly-placed items, as I saw them lying about the street and stuff. So for now, I may as well be fairly useful and list stuff you need to get before you go out of the city: The Caves: -Rattle -Spring Shoes -Flashlight(?) Toontown: -Dynamite -Detonator I'm still playing through the game, so hopefully I'll find out something.
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Posted: 9/27/2005 11:32 AM
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I love it here, but I don't really feel too useful other than giving hints and stuff to random games, and I don't really do any TAS's or anything. However, I guess maybe some of my creditentials lie in the fact I've submitted a buttload of things to David Wonn's site, and my Game Genie Code Oddities site that I re-made and ran from 2000-2002. =D Nonetheless, this is one of my favorite places on the internet, period. Glitch discussion is always rampant, and I absolutely LOVE glitches since the first day I stumbled onto David Wonn's site back in middle school. Boy, that was like candy for my gaming mouth. And all this talk here about glitches and how games are programmed just makes me feel that much smarter when I'm talking about games and stuff. Thank you guys!
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