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For anyone wondering about the single frame time: This submission breaks the file size limit and needed a dummy file. The actual run is at User movie #72436959368468540 and is over 5 hours long, also known to me and Spike as "exactly what we signed up for".
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Well, speaking of misplaced royalty, I guess I have to don the crown of the Queen of Feedback Asking once more and re-gauge the audience reception to these runs. Are they still Moon-worthy or should we rescue the princess only to put her in the Vault?
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I do love it when runs come in and make me think "Holy crap, wasn't expecting that one!" Fantastic improvements of a game that I forgot looked this good when TASed! My one minor nitpick is the copied playaround sections from the published run, but since they're so few and far between (especially with the new improvements) it doesn't take anything away from the experience at all. Definite Yes vote, definitely inherit that well-deserved Star!
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It's waaaaaay easier for me and more fair for the contestants if everyone uses the same version of the game. Checksums are for the (U) version, so that's what should be used.
That being said, if there's some huge version-exclusive feature or glitch on (J) or (E), I'd like to know about it so I can potentially announce a change over to that version of the game.
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The game is...
Ghoul Patrol is the oft-forgotten sequel to Zombies Ate My Neighbors, and has the same overall goal: Get through each level while rescuing between 1-10 innocent people. If all 10 victims die, then you really hecked up. If 9 victims die, then you're probably running any%!
You're running any%! One player, fastest completion.
This is the current RTA WR. There is no other speedrun-relevant information on this game. Good luck!
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That notice is a goldmine.
"Freedom!", cried the Freenode, immediately silencing anyone that even remotely disagrees with them.
Oh sick a new Genesis, finally I can play Comix Zone™.
"Hey Steve..."
"Yeah Mark?"
"I'm writing the thing. Y'know, the warning thing, the one about, like, how we made a new Freenode and how we're gonna kick everyone and make 'em reconnect."
"Why not just go the route we normally do and force people to do what we want without any warning, and ban anyone who says anything other than glowing praise?"
"That gets old after the first 60 times! Look, I need something... Catchy. Like, like a good zinger line. Something really evocative of the current time."
"And you don't wanna use the new motto?"
"No, Steve, we can't use the motto again. These are nerds, they don't know that much about cars and transmissions anyway."
"Fine... How about a phrase that originated in the late 60s, when we were kids?"
"Are you sure?"
"Put 'from the future' after it to make it modern."
"STEVE, I COULD KISS YOU RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M NOT A F-"
*Mark gets a promotion for his expertly timed usage of a slur*
"Old, outdated, and full of illegal activity."
"Oh, sorry. FOSSILS. Freenode is FOSSILS. We're old."
"And if you say anything otherwise, we will hunt you down and force you to think the same way we do."
M I L L I O N SO F O T H E R S
*points to an arrow-shaped sign reading "Libera"*
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The 7-letter M name quota has officially been met for DTC10! Mittenz gets the post-last-minute signup, and over on Discord, moozooh has gone from alternate logo maker to official participant, so... Good news, we now have 8 full teams of 4! Bad news, I have now officially learned that ending sign-ups is the best way to drive up participation, so as of right now, sign-ups are officially closed to the next event I run. Expecting a massive turnout for it!
I've decided to just resort to random placement, since there's only two spots and two people. Using the scientific method of "clicking a button on random.org", moozooh joins Team 7, and Mittenz joins Team 8! Everything is balanced now! I can't allow any more signups! Don't resign me to the fate of having to click buttons again!!!
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I'll allow it! There's still roughly a day and a half until the game's announced anyway, I'm not sure why that's even there. Man, One Month Ago Samsara had some real hecked up viewpoints on time or something. It does slightly complicate the final team-building process, but nothing I can't handle. I've read our Movie Rules, I'm used to things being overly complicated for no reason.
I think the best option here is to arrange the final three sign-ups into the 8th team: R30hedron, FatRatKnight, and Invariel. FRK has already given general confirmation, Invariel has confirmed on Discord, just waiting on R30 to make it official. RIP guessing game, gone before its time :c
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O-Oh. Um.
Given your, uh... Pretty illustrious history with DTC (along with being the sole leftover entrant), I'll make it a simple game so everyone gets a fair crack. Currently asking one person from each team for a 4 digit number, the closest to the one I'm thinking of will get you.
Teams, the cutoff point for this mini-contest will be 4:00 PM Pacific time on the 14th (about 15 hours after this post), or whenever the last team submits their number. Anyone from a team can submit a number but I will only take the first one I see. Either post here or ping me on the TASvideos Discord (I will most likely see this first, also I've already pinged a member from each team on there anyway).
Current numbers:
"TAS to the MAX!" - 6029
"FEIJOADA" - [waiting]
"The Trans-Atlantic TASers" - 4269
"The Galaxy Brains" - [waiting]
"DENT" - 2222
g0goTBC, cyberpotato, WarHippy, lapogne36 - [waiting]
ViGadeomes, arnaud33200, KiwiCracker, R30hedron - 9521
OOPS THIS WHOLE PART OF THE POST JUST AGED INCREDIBLY POORLY INCREDIBLY QUICKLY, LIKE PEOPLE IN THE 1800S. For posterity, DENT was closest. They will be awarded 1 bonus point, which they can trade in at the Prize Counter for a spider ring or a sticky hand.
As for everyone else, sign-ups are officially over! Forty-five minutes late, even, because I am amazing at timing! If my amazing timing keeps up, the game should be announced on June 15th, before 4PM Pacific time.
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I looked into this, and I don't think this route could work. I can get the Ogre Mage encounter quickly, but I haven't successfully gotten even close to killing it due to its high stats. Even if it was possible to kill it at the initial levels, I think getting Blink from the battle would take longer than walking to Poft and buying it.
The fastest encounter I could get is at 9000 frames. This submission gets the Blink spellbook and returns to the world map at about frame 16200, so in theory we have about 7200 frames to work with. The best damage values I was able to get for each party member in my limited testing:
Firion - 10 damage (attack)
Maria - 14 damage (Fire spell)
Guy - 7 damage (attack)
These were all on individual turns, and I admit I didn't test it as much as I should have for a reason I'll share later. Regardless, in theory, this could be 31 damage a turn. The Ogre Mage has 140 HP, meaning the battle could be over in 5 turns if this could be manipulated to happen every turn, but there's a number of catches here.
Most of the time, one turn with this strategy takes about 1200 frames. This means we have a 6 turn window for the fight to be even with this run.
It relies on Maria using Fire, as her physical attack is extremely weak. Getting it and teaching it to Maria is a 1273 frame detour. We now only have 5 turns to work with.
After the battle, we're still northwest of Fynn, and need to get back to Gatrea to use the Inn. This is another 1400 or so frames by itself, not counting the second encounter that needs to be gotten into.
I haven't even proven a single one of these turns is possible. I haven't even managed to hit the Ogre Mage with multiple characters in the same turn, let alone all 3 for maximum damage.
Even the best case scenario that I've personally theorized, the Ogre Mage route would still be slower than this submission.
I don't even think the Ogre Mage route is possible at all, though. The Ogre Mage has four spells:
1: Blizzard 5 - Hits everyone for high damage, can one hit kill
2: Sleep 4 - 40% chance of Sleep on everyone
3: Blind 4 - 70% chance of Darkness on everyone
4: Blink 3 - Adds 3 more chances to evade a physical attack (if I understood it right)
In other words: Two spells that incapacitate characters and two spells that make it much harder to hit. The Ogre Mage already has a 40% evasion rate to begin with, in my testing it was rare that I landed a physical attack at all, let alone one that did respectable damage. This made testing extremely hard in the first place, even harder since the Ogre Mage tends to default to using Blizzard, which would often kill Firion and Maria outright in one hit.
On top of all of this, the only way I've found to manipulate RNG mid battle is to change what each party member does: Attack, Attack, Run may lead to different results than Run, Run, Attack, for example. This means that the theoretical best case scenario just might not work at all, since different actions would have to be taken just to be able to survive the fight.
In short, I believe this run to have used the fastest known route for this glitch.
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BizHawk's current BSNES core is v109 I believe, this core is the latest release (v115), so the differences are whatever was changed in BSNES from v110 to v115.
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