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Dooty wrote:
Nice, I think it's the fastest way to set everithing up, so, go for it.
Samlaptop wrote:
1) If you managed to find a way on setting up the controller and getting it working, you can make a video tutorrial using hypercam which is free.
2)For some reason the software won't allow me copy and paste frames from other movie files. I hope they add this founctionality.
1) I finally managed to make it work here, I had to install the Motioninjoy driver, I'll send you the JoyToKey config file.
2) It's already possible; you just need to take note of the frame from the old movie you want to replace, then open the file I sent you, select everything and copy.
Open the old movie, navigate to the frame you took note, right click and "Paste Before".
Luckily last year I created the '27:01 with input' video that shows me what frame I need to copy from from our run. I'm still at College at the moment but when I get back to my residence I'll do it, watch it and pray it syncs all the way through, and if it does, you'll see a submission! If it doesn't sync all the way through, I'll send it to you to fix the desyncs and then send it back to me and I'll submit it.
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Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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Spikestuff wrote:
You can already do that.
You can only do it on one window of TAS Movie Editor just not between two different windows.
How do I do that? I simply need to copy frames from one PXM file to another.
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Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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The ability to copy and paste frames from another movie file will be nice.
Dooty has sent me a new any% update that he would like me to finish and I would like to copy and paste frames from our previous movie file as everything else is the same from last time up to the point he sent me.
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Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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I can't use psxjjn at the moment because they haven't added the fix to make Abe's Oddysee show up correctly which is why I'm using PCSX. Dooty says that he's managed to get his Xbox 360 controller to work using Joy2key but I can't get to get my PS3 controller inputs to recgonize in the keyboard emulation part of the program.
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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Dooty wrote:
The lift trick failed, I was trying to pull the lever twice and jump, but Abe always reaches the next screen before the lift. :(
But here's the DDG demo I promised;
http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1858906368/Sam_Laptop_Oddsyee_Any_Run.pxm
Abe can't stop closer to the ledge while sneaking, at least I can't make it work; he falls and dies... but sneaking is definitely faster than jump twice.
Cool. I'll have a look at that later. I'll do the new any% update but I need to get my PS3 controller working with PCSX as I still can't get it to work.
If you managed to find a way on setting up the controller and getting it working, you can make a video tutorrial using hypercam which is free.
Update: It looks like you've done the hardest part of the run and I'll use this file to finish the run off as I can take inputs from our recent any% file. For some reason the software won't allow me copy and psate frames from other movie files. I hope they add this founctionality.
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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Dooty wrote:
Yeah, whether running or sneaking, it is really hard to do the DDG consistently. To set up the DDG jumping twice on the other hand is trivial, even in real time.
I'm not at home right now, but as soon as I get there I'll test both methods, jumping and sneaking to be sure which one is faster.
I mentioned something about a trick involving the lifts a few days ago, and I think I finally figured out how to use it. I'll test it too, and I'll let you know if it works.
Cool. I will probably do my real time run first before TASing as I can't get my PS3 controller to work. I wish they'd make a fix to the other emulator they use.
Edit: For this run I'll be using the PSX version as there are some things that the PC vesion can't do like the jump past the Sligs in the StockYards.
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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Dooty wrote:
Nice find, keep it up! By the looks of it, it's a lot faster than the old method.
Samlaptop wrote:
Have you found a quicker way on doing the new skip Dooty?
After so many months trying to do the DDG by bees without jumping, I think that the fastest way to set it up, and be able to set the Auto Turn Delay also faster, is using the "jump twice". You can also keep walking to the left while the bees attack you in the first wave, just be sure to let them sting Abe until his health drops to 25.
edit:
oh, in the second wave, stay two jumps away from the ledge, so you can drop down as soon as you set the DDG. Turn around and press "Up" for two frames and run to the right.
I am struggling to do it Sligfantry's method so if you find an easier method show me how it's done with a movie starting from a state that starts from the Monsaic lines.
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Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
Currently working on:
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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Dooty wrote:
I now have a PS3 controller here, but I can't even play games with it. :(
But since yours is working with ePSXe, joytokey will probably work for you.
About reusing our published run, I strongly recommend you to not do that. Improving it from scratch will be a lot easier.
There are (small) improvements throughout the run, and now that it will be so short, you can't let those mistakes in it.
Abe's Oddysee does not require too much precision in terms of input, but I also recommend you to use V-Sync Advance instead of Frame Advance.
Ok cool. Since I never done a whole TAS before I'm gonna need all the help I'm need. How do I go about using v-sync advance?
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
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Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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Dooty wrote:
Warepire wrote:
Inside PCSX / PSXjin, open a LUA window (I think it's under File menu), choose the script (the file you made), and run it.
Yes, and do it in that order:
1) File->Lua Scripting->New Lua Script Window... (select your Lua file and run it)
2) File->Movie->Start Recording.../Start Playback... (select your movie file)
After that, a window will pop up for you to select your game image file.
That order is important to avoid crashing the emulator, depending on your operational system;
Thanks Dooty. Now al I need to do now is to get the PS3 controller working and I'll be TASing the any% run. How do i go about taking frames out from our previous run to the point where I need to do the DDG by Bats? then once I did the skip, I'll take the frames out from the moment he goes into the bomb for the invisibility.
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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Dooty tells me that I can use a gamepad controller with Joy2key. I have my ps3 controller set up and I'm finding it difficult to get it to work. How do I get it to work?
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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Warepire wrote:
Samlaptop wrote:
what do I do to get the ram address to work?
Copy the text in the code box, open Notepad and paste it, then save it as [file].lua
Inside PCSX / PSXjin, open a LUA window (I think it's under File menu), choose the script (the file you made), and run it.
The info the script produces will now be on screen.
Cool. I'll try that. A JAW dev comes back to me on Twitter and says "It won't work in New 'n' Tasty."
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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got4n wrote:
Just to know, is there a point using a PS3 controller when TASing?
This game works better with a controller as the glitches like the stop turn are hard to do with a keyboard.
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
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Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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OMG! OMG! This is excellent news! Thanks a lot Sligfantry. I will be starting my new TAS tonight as soon as I get my ps3 controller working with PCSX. Dooty, what do I do to get the ram address to work?
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Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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Dooty wrote:
Oh, oh... I should have tested it first, but I was so excited that I thought it would work. :(
I'm sorry, just scratch everything that I said before, the DDG by bees cancels the Auto Turn Delay;
http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/711288583/Sam_Laptop_Oddsyee_Any_Run.pxm
There must be something else that works and we'll find it eventually, but the bees are not the answer. Let's keep trying.
Have you tried setting up the glitch first then do the auto turn afterwards?
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Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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I got an excellent idea. I will create a new movie file and go up to the point where the new glitch will be, do the glitch and then take frames from our previous any% run and it it should sync.
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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Dooty wrote:
Thank you, Samlaptop. I also love the sound of a secret stage. :)
But about the any%, I never worked on two TASes at the same time before, so I won't do it anytime soon.
There are small improvements on the 100% run that can be applied to the any%, and if you want to do it yourself, I'll be glad to help.
Here's the WIP of the 100%, it's 2819 frames ahead up to Monsaic;
http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/441722722/movie.pxm
I would like to get into TASing but I can't get my PS3 game controller to work with PCSX. It works with ePXSE though. Can you make a .PXM file of the new way to set up the glitch?
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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Dooty wrote:
Hi, Samlaptop! I have excellent news! I'm at Monsaic Awakened and I found something; Finally, Scrabania and Paramonia can be skipped! I'm sorry for so many exclamation marks, but I'm too excited!
To do the DDG by bees without jumping you'll need;
1) let Abe be attacked by bees until they get away
2) call the attention of another swarm of bees
2) set an Auto Turn Delay
3) run towards the bees and release the R1 button
Thats it, the DDG will happen at the transition between running and walking.
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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Hey Dooty! How's the new TAS going?
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Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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Dooty wrote:
I'm sorry for the late reply, I was testing something with the lift, but it failed.
I also tested your strat, but the part with the diagonal fall, I can't make it work. :(
The Stop "n" Turn doesn't work either; you can't land there without scaring the birds.
But I'll do as you say, Paramonia then Scrabania and the DDG, maybe we can find out how to make it work.
Cool and now your doing the events in with the storyline. In the 'Abe's Moon' cutscene Abe mentions Paramites and Scrab we should also take on the Paramites first.
Not all strats in the TAS can be done in real time I don't think so it looks like I won't hit the 1 hour mark in realtime (maybe I might because SDA only counts the in game timer.) I'll be waiting for your new 100% update v3 so I can take ideas what I can do in my realtime speedrun and I'll be doing it on a NTSC PS1 that I bought on eBay USA last year.
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Has TASed:
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
Currently working on:
Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
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Dooty wrote:
Every rescue was improved, the one hour mark doesn't seem so unreachable anymore. I've rescued 25 Mudokons so far, almost 1k frames ahead now.
But I need to fix a mistake near the Grinding Area, so it will take a while for the next WIP.
Oh, I got another desync, and lost almost five hours of work so I'm now using TAS audio plugin.
(I'll change to Eternal SPU and fix all the eventual desyncs when the movie is done)
Sounds good. Try this strat.
Do Paramonia first, then Scrabiana and do the DDG with bats. Keep Shrykull till the screen with the mines and the UXB's at the Stockyard Return. Blow them up, drop down the ledge, do the diagonal fall so that Abe can land safety without dying, chant, free the Mudokon, get the grenades, shut down the electric gate and continue to rescue the remaining 49!
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Has TASed:
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
Currently working on:
Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
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Posts: 768
Hows your TAS going Dooty? Found any more improvements?
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games!
Has TASed:
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
Currently working on:
Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
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Joined: 11/30/2012
Posts: 768
This one looks like it's going in the gurefood.
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games!
Has TASed:
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
Currently working on:
Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
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Joined: 11/30/2012
Posts: 768
Dooty wrote:
I'm sorry if I gave you the impression that it is a lot faster than waiting. In this case it's only one frame faster, but changing something so early in the movie could waste frames later on, so, it's not even worth bothering about hex editing that change in the any% run.
But something we should try is the DDG on Monsaic Lines. If we succeed on setting up the DDG there without jumping, we should be able to skip both Paramonia and Scrabania.
The Stop "n" Turn trick used to set the DDG with the bats ought to be the way to do it with the bees, but I couldn't find the right timing yet.
When you get to that point in the 100% you could experiment with the trick again and see if you can get the glitch to work. It may save time as you can run even more fast past the slingshot Mudokon but if you can setup the STJB glitch you will safely be able to drop down the ledge.
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games!
Has TASed:
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
Currently working on:
Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
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Joined: 11/30/2012
Posts: 768
Dooty wrote:
Oh, the diagonal fall, it is something I forgot to mention, but when Abe land from a ledge, if you can move him around it's usually faster than waiting for his landing animation to complete, thus, why I'm doing that additional step. (doesn't look, but it's faster)
Also, sometimes rolling is the only way to use levers as fast as possible, otherwise Abe will have to walk an additional step, and this one would be slower.
(This game seems to use some kind of grid, and Abe can't stop between grids while walking)
I think we should update the any% again if you think it's faster. Can you tell me what frames I should change in the any% and explain how to tweak it.
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games!
Has TASed:
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
Currently working on:
Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
