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Dooty wrote:
I'm sorry if I gave you the impression that it is a lot faster than waiting. In this case it's only one frame faster, but changing something so early in the movie could waste frames later on, so, it's not even worth bothering about hex editing that change in the any% run.
But something we should try is the DDG on Monsaic Lines. If we succeed on setting up the DDG there without jumping, we should be able to skip both Paramonia and Scrabania.
The Stop "n" Turn trick used to set the DDG with the bats ought to be the way to do it with the bees, but I couldn't find the right timing yet.
When you get to that point in the 100% you could experiment with the trick again and see if you can get the glitch to work. It may save time as you can run even more fast past the slingshot Mudokon but if you can setup the STJB glitch you will safely be able to drop down the ledge.
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
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Dooty wrote:
Oh, the diagonal fall, it is something I forgot to mention, but when Abe land from a ledge, if you can move him around it's usually faster than waiting for his landing animation to complete, thus, why I'm doing that additional step. (doesn't look, but it's faster)
Also, sometimes rolling is the only way to use levers as fast as possible, otherwise Abe will have to walk an additional step, and this one would be slower.
(This game seems to use some kind of grid, and Abe can't stop between grids while walking)
I think we should update the any% again if you think it's faster. Can you tell me what frames I should change in the any% and explain how to tweak it.
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Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
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Dooty wrote:
Samlaptop wrote:
I just got myself an encode using Eternal SPU and no desyncs! Yay!
That's great! I was wondering if it would be better to use TAS sound plugin, but since it's not "desyncing" for you I'll stick with Eternal SPU.
About why I don't post encodes, you can blame my crappy internet connection, but also my complete lack of encoding skills.
I see. I was using the college connection to upload the WiP to YouTube. We do have fibre optic connection which is what I use at home. I also mentioned in the previous post about doing the diagonal fall set up a few steps later rather than earlier.
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
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Feos has managed to fix the PCSX-RR emulator make Abe games work. If possible, could you add this to the GPU Plugin code so Dooty can TAS on PSXjjn:
http://pastebin.com/WyCn33D4
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
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Dooty wrote:
I guess I'm doing something wrong here, I can use the dismount while moving on the first try, but I can only use it once.
After the first use Abe get stuck in front of Elum, and if I go to another screen the game hangs.
In any case, I'm still far from that point and this game is kinda unpredictable, so it's better to test it when I get there.
Talking about unpredictable, I got my first desync using the P.E.O.p.S sound plugin.
I've also used the Bird Closure trick for the first time so here's a preview;
http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/507573967/movie.pxm
The new run is 826 frames faster than the published run up to this point.
I will have a look at this later. Every time now you post a WIP can you encode it and have a YouTube copy so I can watch it without viewing it on the emulator.
Scrtach that idea. I just got myself an encode using Eternal SPU and no desyncs! Yay!
Edit: Just watched your improvment. OMG! Things look a lot easier to do on real time this time. It gives me ideas on what I can do in this segment in real time. I am still working on my any% update first but once you finished your new 100% update I'll look into things I could do in real time. It looks like this is a lot easier route and the quicket way. Thanks Dooty!
Edit: Here is my encode on Youtube with SPU Plugin!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saU9IgsPIug&feature=youtu.be
Another edit: I notice on the first diagonal fall setup you drop down a few steps further. I have managed to do the exact movements as you did in the any% and it will be silly to waste frames. I have done it that way before and evening rolling and stop turn past the Slig.
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
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Dooty wrote:
I had not thought of that, but since the DDG saved time everywhere on the published run, it is something to keep in mind, thank you.
Hey, the action button on the exploding Elum? It may fix the problem with the dismounting while moving, I'll test it too.
I don't think it will have much effect on the PSX version and you also have to dismount Elum four times for it to work. It says in the video.
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
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I was also thinking that the DDG by Bats could be used in the new 100% route to skip Abe having to use his head to blow up the mines and it would mean that the entire run will almost be filled up with the DDG.
Edit: Also when doing the ghostly Elum glitch in Scrabiana, you do not need to set up the auto turn delay to get on Elum. You just press the action button as soon as the mine hits Elum and it will work the same way.
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
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I found another useful way to save frames in your new 100% run Dooty!
In Slgfanytry's speedrun, at the very last part of the Monsaic Lines, instead of rolling towards the lever like you do, he rolls for a few frames and then continues running and then he runs towards the lever and pulls it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFaiJNtoBxM
Look at 5:17 in this video.
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
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Yes vote. What an improvement!
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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Dooty wrote:
Zarmakuizz wrote:
Now they would like to show to the French the good ending :)
That's great, I'll try to make it worth their while.
Samlaptop wrote:
Let's hope this run hits the 1 hour mark or a sub 1 hour!
Three minutes and twenty seconds is quite some time to save! I'd love to beat that mark,
so I'm not reusing anything from the current published run.
About the WIP, I'll post one as soon as I finish RuptureFarms. (Seven Mudokons saved so far, 144 frames ahead.)
What's new so far? Have you found quicker strategies?
Edit: there is a quicker way of making the Slig enter the bomb in Scrabiana when doing the DDG. After many retakes you can make him recognise you and he doesn't walk to the right. I have done this method before and that will save some frames.
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Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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When you feel like it Dooty put a WIP so i can see how you're getting on.
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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Dooty wrote:
Thanks a lot, feos! You don't know how bad it was to work with so many flashing lights in your face, even worse for me since I have migraine and flashing lights kinda triggers my headaches.
So, I'm already working on the 100% run update, three Mudokons saved, 111 frames ahead and no headaches so far. :)
Well, one of the Mudokons was a little bit stubborn, but he decided to cooperate in the end.
Let's hope this run hits the 1 hour mark or a sub 1 hour!
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Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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feos wrote:
Dooty, can you try the same with TAS SPU with "movie mode" off?
As for resync, it's done, only 3 desync points, so I'm going to dump with Eternal SPU throughout the whole run, instead of dumping only cutscenes with it.
When I tried the Pete DSound plugin it synced right till Abe was trying to trigger the DDG with the bats.
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Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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feos wrote:
You were using SPU plugin to capture the movie with SPU plugin? %0
Yeah we are trying to improve the sound quality here.
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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feos wrote:
What does SPU have to do here?
That's the plugin that I was using when kkatpuring to try and capture the movie with the SPU plugin.
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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feos wrote:
Only link is the same.
Does it work with the SPU plugin?
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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That's the same one isn't it? I tried that one before or is that a new one.
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
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feos wrote:
Meanwhile, I finally found where the Abe's games fix was added to pcsxr. It's revision 42418, mdec.c. I replaced the pcsx-rr's file with this, the picture now looks perfect even with TAS GPU, but it desyncs in the first level. Dunno if it can be fixed, since the whole file was rewritten:
March 14, 2010 Wei Mingzhi <whistler_wmz>
* libpcsxcore/mdec.c: Rewritten MDEC decoder to replace non-free code, also
fixes image quality issues and improves decoding speed. (Thanks gorlik)
Nice work Feos! How do I disable the input that is displayed on the top right? Also kkapture works better with this revision with the Eternal SPU but it desynced at the Scrabiana Temple.
By the way here is a Trololo for Feos for his great work. Keep it up Feos!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavMtUWDBTM
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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BadPotato wrote:
feos wrote:
Tried it today. Doesn't work correctly with TAS GPU because there are sprite artifacts in different places, and it counts it as a desync, and peops GPU doesn't do png screenshots with proper picture. So either we fix the core (where the Abe's game problem actually is, not in the plugin), or we dump as usual.
I can check what's up with this around around the next week or this weekend. If this is simply the screenshot that doesn't render properly, I guess we can simply make a quick&dirty custom build for fixing this issue or make an alternate script to avoid this kind of desync.
So this fix will let is watch the movie with the TAS GPU plugin and the Eternal SPU?
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Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
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feos wrote:
That's what I was describing. Resyncing it to Eternal SPU doesn't work correctly.
That is very odd and strange. I think we need to make a ePSXe-rr emulator.
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Has TASed:
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
Currently working on:
Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
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feos wrote:
Except that I have no idea where the error is.
In that case you should encode it with the Eternal SPU for now.
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games!
Has TASed:
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
Currently working on:
Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
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feos wrote:
Tried it today. Doesn't work correctly with TAS GPU because there are sprite artifacts in different places, and it counts it as a desync, and peops GPU doesn't do png screenshots with proper picture. So either we fix the core (where the Abe's game problem actually is, not in the plugin), or we dump as usual.
I think you should try and fix the core.
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games!
Has TASed:
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
Currently working on:
Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
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natt wrote:
Samlaptop wrote:
natt wrote:
For those not familiar with the game, what is the importance of disabling sprite transparency?
It makes the game unplayable
So the game was unplayable on original hardware? If not, then isn't the better solution to support sprite transparency correctly/accurately instead of eliminating it?
It was playable on the original hardware but PCSX-rr or the other emulator does not like showing the game on any another GPU plugin.
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games!
Has TASed:
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
Currently working on:
Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
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natt wrote:
For those not familiar with the game, what is the importance of disabling sprite transparency?
It makes the game unplayable and without it it makes the graphics not that good looking. You'll understand it when you actually play a game on the PSX emulator without Peops soft 1.4 plugin.
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games!
Has TASed:
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
Currently working on:
Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
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Abe's Oddysee has been having a lot of problems with PCSX-rr and the TAS Sound Plugin with the movie mode has sound issues when playing back the movie. i hope when it's intergrated with Bizhawk that the GPU plugin will have the capabilites on disabiling sprite transpancy on Abe games so Dooty and I can TAS with Bizhawk.
Enjoys speedrunning, playing and TASing Oddworld games!
Has TASed:
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee in 12.06.13 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Adventures II in 20.03.78 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:08:28.4 (with Dooty)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:05:01.65
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:18
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus in 37:15
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus 100% in 2:!5.44.12
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 13:01.3
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee any% in 12:59.95
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:16.27
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee 100% in 1:04:01.07
Currently working on:
Waiting for Windows TAS Tools to work so I can TAS PC version of Exoddus.
