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Could this be a first major moonwalk timesaver?
hyperwalk + icebeam made this possible.
It's apparently possible to just switch directions from moonwalk and speed is kept.
Without moonwalk, there was no space to get 3rd or 4th tap on 2 blocks wide spike platforms!!!!!! (even with frozen mochtroid extension)
This could potentially save time in RBO at least:
http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1667108765/colosseum%20shinespark%20hyperwalk%20icebeam.smv
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Cpadolf wrote:
Best I got was another 0.75 pixels or something, and that's with abusing the potential of the airwalk, otherwise I think it's 1/16th of a pixel. I don't think that's enough for anything significant still, but it might be possible to improve it more.
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Cpadolf wrote:
I was able to get it another 24576 subpixels shorter (so 1.5 pixels in total), but I haven't been able to do a moonwalk on a platform that close to the edge. I've only been able to do it when I'm 53248 subpixels away from it or more. Could you provide an smv of that?
I tried to combine it with unequipped speedbooster, can you try to optimize this too? It might make the thing 3-4 pixels shorter overall =D! and below is smv of airwalk provided
http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1090698864/airwalk.smv
edit: you cannot start airwalk from 0 subpixel, 49152 seems to be the minimum with dash held
edit 2: but this gives like 1/4 pixel or 1/2 pixel more distance for charge right?
Wow that is amazing to here that the Moonwalk might actually have use in a TAS, nice find sniq!!!
Also I can't play the files for some reason what version of the emulator are you using?
I'm using both snes9x 1.43 rerecording and 1.51 rerecording. Those smvs are for 1.51 rr
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Cpadolf wrote:
The best I could find for PAL so far is 4-4-5, with dash held on frames 1-5, 8, 10-11 and then 14 and hold until you hit the first booster level to make the running animation as short as possible. It's just under 2.5 pixels shorter than the old pattern (and about under 6.5 pixels shorter than the new pattern for NTSC).
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Alright, thanks to the new shorter charge, it is possible to get 2 taps in 3 blocks wide platform now.
It could maybe be used somewhere in the game for speedkeep with spikes that weren't wide enough before.
http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/686665924/colosseum%20test%203.smv
small edit: its not possible to jump unfortunately.. samus falls off ledge just as the 2nd speedcounter is executed. If it would be possible to shorten the charge a bit more, shinespark could possibly be charged in colosseum
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This might not be too interesting thing to mention, but I found a way to charge shinespark in shorter distance (big thanks to eterniseddragon for suggesting speedbooster on / off) by starting the charge with speedbooster turned off and just before 1st speedtap, turn it on from menu!
My best result this far was 4096 subpixels shorter distance compared to the input pattern that is on tasvideos resources page! This could still be possible to improve so I didn't give up yet. Smv shows the first 2 taps only though.
I'll make better smv later with possible improvement
http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/37671485/935px%2020479sub.smv
EDIT:
8192 subpixels ahead already!!
http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/1772552352/935px%2016383sub.smv
