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Zowayix wrote:
Can someone remind me again which buttons act differently between SM64 and SM64DS? I've only played the DS remake extensively, and there, [crouch button] + [attack button] (slide kick) + [attack button] (jump out of the slide kick) gets into the pipe no problem. Is the button combination different on the original?
In the original, you can't jump out of a slide kick using B (attack button), you need to press A (jump button).
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feos wrote:
The displayed time will be total. Tails time alone can be easily written in the publication.
Alright. Also, can you fix another thing? The time displayed on the submission uses the VI number, which doesn't count the loading times. The actual time should use the Frames number, which is 82441. With that, the final time (counting Sonic part) would be 22:54.02.
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feos wrote:
Not starting from a savestate shortens the actual Tails time, so it is a valid choice. But do we have precedents when part of the very movie was counted as verification/unlocking and dropped from the official time? If no, the whole time of this movie must count, including obsoletion attempts. But in our case, obsoletions are decided by entertainment too, so technically Sonic time must be not slower unless on purpose.
I see it. I wanted to not count the Sonic time because it would make the time to be counted like a real time speedrun. But if in TASVideos it's better to count the whole input file, it's okay for me.
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Patashu wrote:
It's a similar case to Ocarina of Time TASes, where the TAS method of timing make it seem slow compared to real time runs, but if you actually compare the parts in both runs it's way faster.
Ocarina of Time timing are like that because the real time runs don't finish in the last input, but in the end of Ganon. The TAS of it finishes in the last A press to skip the last text in the last cutscene, so it takes more time.
In this TAS, the difference is in the start of the timing though. Following the thought of Ocarina of Time, I understand now that it should count the unlocking Tails part too, so it's okay for me now :P
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AzureLazuline wrote:
Summary of the current system: Yes, the time as Sonic counts as part of the time number, but no, it will not count negatively against you if someone else TASes this game using the other method. So don't worry about it. If it's for the case of comparing this to real-time runs, then just use the ingame timer at the end of each stage.
Yeah, there's no problem about the time in my opinion, I just asked that because I thought that would be the best for a TAS like this, I wasn't sure though :P
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Paused wrote:
I wonder if you know if there are mechanically any differences between Sonic/Tails on the snowboarding section? (And now I think about it, any differences between Sonic's normal or blue snowboards?)
Sonic is faster than Tails in snowboard, making the speed tricks easier. Not sure if there's some another difference though. And I don't know about the differences between Sonic's normal and blue snowboards, I think that they're the same.
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Well, if you guys prefer the time to count unlocking Tails, it's okay for me. But the time would still be wrong, it should be 22:54.02, according to the frames number.
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jlun2 wrote:
I'm not against unlocking tails during the TAS. In fact, if a run that uses a save file with tails already unlocked tried to obsolete this, the TASer would most likely have to prove that his/her run is indeed faster than this one for reasons other than using a save file. :P
Because of that, I think that starting the time in reset would make it easier to compare to future runs.
Also, the time of this TAS would be wrong anyway because it uses the VI number. Using the frame count (82441 frames), the time would be 22:54.02. If it started in reset (frame number 8967), the total frames of the run would be 73474, which gives a time of 20:24.57.
So if you want the time WITH unlocking Tails part, the final time would be 22:54.02 and WITHOUT it, it would be 20:24.57.
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jlun2 wrote:
Why?? Why should the input before unlocking the character not count? If it's part of the input file, it should count that as well.
Well, that's what other people told me. I could either use a save file with Tails unlocked or unlock him before the TAS. So following this thought, unlocking Tails shouldn't count in the time of the TAS.
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And/or it turn it into a "haters gonna hate" gif.
Sorry about the bad quality, I'm a noob at those things :P
Also, I'm adding suggested screenshots in the submission. Tell me which ones are your favorite ones! ^_^
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hegyak wrote:
Tails's (yes, that is correct usage of a possessive for a name ending in S)
I don't think so, there's a game called Tails' Sky Patrol that's written just like that.
AngerFist wrote:
Pleease pretty please do Sonic Adventure 2: Battle next :)
I will start doing individual levels, and there is a really slow project of Hero Story TAS of it. I'm not in the team, but I may help them if they need it :P
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TASeditor wrote:
Why didn't you start from a savefile, which already has Tails unlocked?
In this case, starting from a savefile is allowed.
Because using a memory card makes loading times be longer, as it saves the game. And as I only need to complete the first level of Sonic to unlock him, I prefered to just play without memory card like that.
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scahfy wrote:
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scahfy wrote:
Great progress! One question: Since the gates provide significant speed boosts, is it worth it to miss so many of them?
Those are boost pads, not the gates that are providing the speed increases.
It seems like that from THC98's WIP alone, because he doesn't go through any gates until he is already at a high speed (as you say, from boost pads). Gates don't provide a big speed boost anyway, which may be why THC98 doesn't seem to care about them as much. However, they do provide a boost, which you can see more clearly in this speedrun (Sand Hill starts at 13:34).
Actually, Atma is right. Gates don't give any speed boost, they only are multipliers to the score. That speedrun didn't use the best strat.
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Okay, so now I'm doing Tails' Story. I just completed Sand Hill, so it's more than half done! I've done a video showing two strats of Sand Hill, check it here.
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niamek wrote:
I have some questions: Why do you alternate partners so quickly?
Also, why some times do you take the flight formation even it's the slowest formation?(Like just after being shot of the canon)
I alternate to Tails after doing a kick with Sonic to break it and be able to do another kick, so it's faster. I changed to Tails before the cannon because if you enter this cannon as Tails, you go in the fastest path, which is going straight up.
Patashu wrote:
Is there a full list of all known glitches in sonic heroes along with whether they're TAS only or not? Sonic Heroes tricks is something I don't understand well and I'd love to familiarize myself.
I explained some tricks in the description of the video. If you still have some questions, just ask me here :P
Sorry about the bad quality, I'm a noob at those things :P
Also, I'm adding suggested screenshots in the submission. Tell me which ones are your favorite ones! ^_^