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Posted: 12/8/2008 6:48 PM
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Posted: 12/8/2008 5:36 PM
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Des: Alright! That was some interesting information. I kinda doubt that I'm able to get two double hits though. Or do you think this is possible? If it is, I'll redo some. Dave: It's nothing wrong with using that glitch. I'm not using glitches which will make me walk in walls. Edit: Also... I just got the Quake Medallion. But when I'm using the mirror, it takes me 32 frames longer to get to the light world than it did for Flag. I believe it's the same thing that happened in the end of PoD, when using the teleporter. But that didn't cost me near as much... Flag: Do you know why it happens? Or someone else perhaps :/.
Posted: 12/6/2008 9:42 PM
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Thanks for the addresses, Flag and Des. I've finished the third dungeon now at least. SMV I manage to get a double hit in the end of the boss fight... I haven't really got an idea how it happened, but I was never able to do it earlier in the fight. One idea is that the boss got hit from the spikes on both the top and the left. But I was never able to do it in any different way than shown in the movie. Oh well, enjoy I guess.
Posted: 12/3/2008 3:31 PM
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Flag: If the "hammer glitch" wasn't used, it would be faster to take the rupees in the basement while getting the key there. Taking the rupees in Thieves' Town cost me around 12 seconds, with the extra item switch and so on. About the boss; I'm going to see what I manage to do there. My plan was to start the fight with a double hit spin attack, as I thought it was easily possible as it is with most enemies. But that can not always damage him was new to me. Thanks for pointing that out and thanks for the memory address. I guess I should start using that for other bosses as well. Helmasaur King was an example where it could have been useful, for the mask. Thanks for your feedback at least. That is pretty much what keeps me TAS this :) (It helps at least!).
Posted: 11/30/2008 4:05 PM
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500 for the flippers and 100 for the super bomb. So I need to collect 10 more rupees in the run.
Posted: 11/30/2008 12:33 PM
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Flag: I'm going to upload a WIP once dungeon 4 is done. I'm currently in the room before the basement and I'll hopefully be done with it today, but most likely tomorrow. Dark: As Twelvepack said: no it isn't possible. Not without using EG so that you can go between the dungeons. Up to the beginning of the third dungeon. SMV YouTube 6911 frames ahead. The reason why I have lost frame is because I had to pick up the rupees that I didn't pick up in Palace of Darkness. Don't know how much I saved in this segmented overall but yeah...
Posted: 11/21/2008 10:21 AM
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I got Order of Ecclesia recently so I've been kinda busy ;D. For ALttP: I've been in the room before the statue for awhile. I'm trying a lot of different combinations in there, but it's hard to get something good enough... Edit: Well, the dungeon is finished again... Ended up to be 152 frames faster, not too bad.
Posted: 11/17/2008 9:44 AM
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Well, I'm redoing the whole dungeon and got stuck at the enemy before I bomb to hole in the floor, don't remember the name of it. I just can't get him to be out of the way as I did last time :/. Going to keep trying with it however.
Posted: 11/12/2008 12:24 PM
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Omnipoint: Yeah, I had that in mind while running it, but at that time I didn't think it would save time because you would have to wait so long for the bomb to explode. But as I'm redoing some of the dungeon now anyway, I'm going to try it as well. Flag: Yeah, you can also blast youreself using a bomb as well. I have tried to find use for it but haven't been able to so far. As far as I know, it doesn't work on |_ those kinds of corners. Only when there's one line of it, either | or _.
Posted: 11/11/2008 10:33 AM
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Twelvepack wrote:
Looks really nice. I dont remember the previous versions taking the hammer from the other side of the barrier, is that a new discovery?
I found that in January last year while playing the romhack Parallel Worlds. So it's not that new really, just hasn't been used in a run until now :). And as far as I know, there are only two places to use the glitch. Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it!
Posted: 11/10/2008 10:06 PM
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Dez: I'm going to take both the 300 rupees chests in Thieves' Town. Both of them are close so... Erokky and I discussed it earlier and that's what we came up with. But if you have a better suggestion: Feel free to add :). Oh, and sorry that you and your brother lost your heads, I didn't really mean to :/.
Posted: 11/10/2008 4:06 PM
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Palace of Darkness done, SMV YouTube Dez: I think that will explain it for you :). Thanks for the feedback. Edit: Shiny, would you like to do an encode from frame 74850 please? :)
Posted: 11/9/2008 12:35 PM
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Surely a lot of comments for this, which I really didn't expect... Anyway, to sum it up: I won't be using the glitch in this run at least and I've already continued with the run and the classic enemy manipulation problems. But I'll hopefully be in the Dark World by the end of the day. Edit: Dark World
Posted: 11/6/2008 11:20 AM
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Alright... I need some opinions here. When you are walking down/up stairs that will lead you to different floors (B1, 1F, 2F etc) while holding Left+Right+Up the amination will enter EG (The glitch that's used in the glitched run where you can walk through walls and such). And once you reach the next floor you will be invisible until you leave the room. However, I later noticed that the position of Link wasn't the same as it usually is. Link is both lower down on the screen and some more to the left or right. It's not the same with all stairs. In this movie, when I'm walking down the stairs normally, Link will be standing at position: x 249 and y 821 When holding up+left+right: x 236 and y 83 When going up the stairs normally: x 248 and y 100 When holding up+left+right: x 248 and y 125. 25 pixels lower down. I can still start moving around at the same frame in both cases http://65.93.197.203/microstorage.php/info/167354858/StairsGlitch.smv x position 7E0022, 1u y position 7E0020, 1u I want to know if I shall: 1. Restart the run and include this trick. 2. Start using it from now on and continue. 3. Don't care about it at all. I hope my bad explanation was somewhat understandable...
Posted: 11/4/2008 1:25 PM
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Yeah, I was trying to kill one of the moldorms where i lift the pots. But, even having the moldorm go up in front of me, it took way too much time to wait until I could grab it. I got one rupee outside the house and was planning to get the rest 11 in the castle. Or possibly get one green rupee in the grass at the Pyramid. But I don't know how items are manipulated in grass, so I'm unsure about that. The bombs are worrying me now however...
Posted: 11/2/2008 5:37 PM
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I can... But I'm "only" going right and down, and I can't do any wobbling those directions.
Posted: 11/2/2008 4:13 PM
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It's possible to see that I'm bumping into the wall before, but not that easy to spot I guess. I planned out my arrow route before. If I've calculated everything, it will mean that I don't have to sacrifice any frames to pick up arrows anymore. And I'll end up having 0 arrows after Ganon. Now the problem is the bombs. You got 8 bombs from the pig in The Palace of Darkness, but as I'm going to use a different route there I won't get those bombs. I'll see what I can come up with :/ Anyway, I uploaded Shiny's avi to Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ikmLO4Qgxc
Posted: 11/1/2008 8:19 PM
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flagitious wrote:
Hey how is the 3rd pendant going?
Pretty good Picking up the master sword was stupid... I could pick it up 4 frames earlier, but it resultet to be slower in the end for some reason. Tried a lot of different frames but this one was the fastest. Annoying shit going on there... Anyway, I'm 2756 frames ahead (46 seconds) after the Master Sword. If someone can encode an avi from around frame 37000 to the end, I would be a happy little Tompa!
Posted: 10/27/2008 11:06 PM
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There are going to be some route changes. I'm going to collect the rupees a different way than he did. But the Dark World dungeon order will probably be the same.
Posted: 10/26/2008 12:21 PM
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To dungeon 3 When I'm leaving the cave with the old man I slash my sword, this may look odd but it allows me to do a pixelport in the exit. I can't change direction there so I had to charge the sword. 3 frames faster that way.
Posted: 10/23/2008 6:17 PM
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http://www.savefile.com/files/1854907 There it is at least :). I have been redoing the end of the dungeon a lot of times now and because of manipulation issues I have yet not finished the boss :(. It sucks.
Posted: 10/19/2008 8:38 AM
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Yes, indeed I did. I forgot that I didn't need to run all the way up against the door as I would have to wait for the key anyway. I'm going to continue with the run today after a short break with the EG run.
Posted: 10/17/2008 12:34 PM
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The reason to that odd movement was that I had to wait a few frames for it to appear as late as possible, frame rule enemy. I tried many different things and that was the only thing I could come up with to do. I'm currently a bit unsure where I shall get the last rupees. I'll come up with that later on :). The boss fight is currently being redone, I'm 8 frames ahead in there but having manipulation problems.
Posted: 10/15/2008 7:05 PM
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Second double post for a second dungeon done. Here you go! 1003 ahead of erokky, his WIP ends at this point. 2299 ahead of published run.
Posted: 10/12/2008 6:42 PM
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Yeah, I had to sacrifice one sadly. I redid and saved a frame in the previous room but noticed that I got bad manipulation because of it. I just got the book, yay.
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