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Posted: 8/27/2007 5:18 AM
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The ending was HILARIOUS very very good! Sure... this run is much faster than the old one, but ide still rather watch it cause its 10x more entertaining (even tho its slower).
Posted: 4/4/2006 10:49 AM
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Thanks for the positive feedback, I feel much better now that I know how it works (its good logic).
Posted: 4/2/2006 6:29 AM
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Awesome job. This is exactly how a run should be done (if the voting poles were still open I would votes yes). Only thing I dislike is the descriptions are biased due to the fact the person who made the video also runs the site. If I was a runner I wouldn't like to see a "TODO: Describe this movie" on any of my runs. Thats just insulting (not trying to come off on an offensive tone). I appologize if your not pleased with my post, but thats how I feel.
Posted: 3/28/2006 4:03 AM
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Nice job dragon, but I still think Sleepz run is still the most entertaining. http://tasvideos.org/WhyAndHow.html This goals section needs to be updated since the goals on this site has shifted.
Posted: 8/31/2005 9:11 PM
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How would you suggest measuring something that doesn't a definite value? As you said, time has seconds..
Good question. How someone came up with a definite value of time is they made up a standard system that everyone follows. And thats what gives time a definite value. We could do the same thing for entertainement. Since entertainment is an opinion of the mass majority, my suggestion would be to have a poll that says 'is this video entertaining' or 'was this more entertaining than the last' and have a 'Yes' or 'No'. That would give you a percentage.
I would say the voting system roughly tries to put things into a "yes" or "no" entertainment-wise, and the stars classify movies as "very yes" entertainment-wise.
Roughly, but not exact. I would say the voting system is more of a 'does this movie need more work?'. The star system is for after the movie has been released and the main discussion of this thread is before release.
Posted: 8/30/2005 8:19 PM
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I have read all posts and haven't found my idea anywhere. Since this site aims for the fastest possible time while being entertaining, why isnt entertainement measured? The speed of the movie is measured in time, entertainement on the other hand isn't measured at all.
Posted: 5/20/2005 10:40 AM
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I saw the video and it was really impressive. I noticed in oil ocean 2 yall have discovered the 'blue super sonic' bug. I figured as soon as someone found out about that, that everyone would figure out the rest. But apparently I was wrong. Since the rest of the bug is too long to describe I made a video of it. But this exploit will probably half your oil ocean 2 time. The Video: http://touch.evil2u.com/-TouchOPicturesTouchOVideos-/SonicOO2bug.zip
Posted: 5/18/2005 10:25 AM
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I didn't expect this run to ever be touched again. But wow.. this run is awesome. Some parts of the video I actually caught myself thinking 'what the....?'. Very impressive video. I appreciate you giving me credit for the tips/suggestions I gave you, wasn't expecting that at all. Much thanks and I hope to see more runs by you in the future.
Posted: 3/26/2005 5:54 AM
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I havent seen genisto's version, but yours was so good I found myself laughing because of the impressive aesthetics in the video. Well done.
Posted: 1/14/2005 7:13 PM
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I see your point, and why you say that. http://tasvideos.org/WhyAndHow.html The goal "We are creating art and providing entertainment." Thats the main purpose of this site. So.. with that said.. I dont think we should be limited with just 'manipulation of input'. But I see why you say that, and it makes sense. But I think the main purpose of this site, is one of the most important aspects of this whole conversation.
Posted: 1/14/2005 6:39 PM
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The easiest way is the best way, isnt it? "But I'm pretty sure it would lead to even more accusations of cheating, based on the fact that NESes aren't commonly overclocked, and it would just look like a cheap method to shave time where you shouldn't be able to." Oh.. thats a fact.. It will lead to more accusations. No doubt about that. Just like when you started using 3rd party programs, people started accusing.
Posted: 1/14/2005 6:35 PM
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Thats fine, do what you want. Its not my community(nor do I have any right to tell anyone what to do). I just think it should be legal for most games. But the whole point of doing it would be to make it easier to play, like the 3rd party programs do.
Posted: 1/14/2005 6:22 PM
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"A better anology would be either replacing the ball with a different ball that can be thrown faster and bounces higher, or perhaps changing the rules so that kicking the ball is allowed." Are you even reading what im saying? or can you not comprehend it? And your using the survivor comparison way wrong... Re-read what I have said. Since we have more than one person confused, maybe im not explaining myself. I will highlight what is important. "Assuming dead frames are caused by lag in G.I. Joe 2, then In BoltR's rare scenario, I would agree. It should be illegal because you can't do that on the original console. As far as the other games, If overclocking doesn't have any game-changing effects to it (like Mr.BoltR has pointed out, dead frames) then it should be legal." IF OVERCLOCKING DOESN'T HAVE ANY GAME-CHANGING EFFECTS TO IT THEN IT SHOULD BE LEGAL. Thats key. Understand that overclocking DOES NOT make your run faster (accept for the real-life time). It just makes the frames go through smoother (it doesnt actually give your video less frames). This next paragraph should be highlighted. This whole paragraph is key: Overclocked consoles don't actually allow you to do things that you couldnt do with it clocked to default (and if you find a game where it does, then it should be considered illegal on that particular game) it just makes it easier for the player to execute his moves.
Posted: 1/14/2005 5:28 PM
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The basketball analogy explained: 1 arm tied behind your back is a representation of lag, because playing with lag is a handicap as well as playing with 1 hand behind your back. Why play with a handicap when you dont have to? Either way, me talking on this forums is perhaps a waste of time (but none-the less its fun :0), because the real influincing factor will be when someone actually does a speed run, and has better results due to the fact that he didnt lag. People will hate the idea at first, but will eventually be forced to go in that direction. Like for example on survivor, when someone invented voting alliances. People hated it at first because it was considered 'cheap' or 'cheating' but he did it, and now its a standard. You have to have voting alliances now to stay in the game. "I think some of the appeal of these videos come from the fact that they could be theoretically done with a stock console." Overclocked consoles don't actually allow you to do things that you couldnt do with it clocked to default (and if you find a game where it does, then it should be considered illegal on that particular game) it just makes it easier for the player to execute his moves.
Posted: 1/14/2005 5:14 PM
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It would make the runs better, because it would make it THAT much easier to play. Just like using 3rd party tools makes it easier to play. Why play basketball with 1 hand tied behind your back when you can use two?
Posted: 1/14/2005 4:27 PM
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"The idea of doing timeattacks with an "overclocked" emulator is just ridiculus." Some people would also consider doing timeattacks with 3rd party tools to eliminate human limitations is also rediculous. http://tasvideos.org/WhyAndHow.html. Read the 'Isn't It cheating' section. I'm sure those people who consider using recording tools cheating, think thats rediculous. "The lag was there on the original system, so why should we deliberately get rid of it? It would really just be a lot of hassle for a tiny increase in speed. What's the big deal?" Why should we get rid of it? So we can make better speed runs. Yes, It would be a hassle for an increase in speed (I wouldn't consider it a 'tiny' increase), but thats 1 less thing we have to worry about. Question to BoltR: Do you know if this is actually caused by the lag caused by too much happening in the screen, or does it happen if theres too much in the screen regardless of lag or not. Assuming dead frames are caused by lag in G.I. Joe 2, then In BoltR's rare scenario, I would agree. It should be illegal because you can't do that on the original console. As far as the other games, If overclocking doesn't have any game-changing effects to it (like Mr.BoltR has pointed out, dead frames) then it should be legal.
Posted: 1/14/2005 4:12 AM
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Well sure the game had lag originally, I was just saying that in a perfect world there would be no lag.
Posted: 1/14/2005 3:47 AM
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I think it should be legal. http://tasvideos.org/WhyAndHow.html The Goal - "We are creating art and providing entertainment." Now Keep this quote in mind the whole time. I agree with LocalH 100 percent. It shouldnt be considered cheating, because it doesnt actually skip any frames, but just runs each frame like it was suppose to in the first place, without lag. The only way I think this could be considered cheating is in this given scenario: Person A does a speedrun of game X and has lets say 1000 frames total in it(I know 1000 frames would be a short game, but just try to get the concept down) WITHOUT overclocking. Person B does the same game and gets the same frame count, but the only difference is Player B overclocked his NES which gave him a faster real-life time. He got that faster real life time because where areas player A would lag, Player B would not (due to the fact that his NES runs better). "Trying to deal with lags in timeattack is clever." Maybe so phil, but so is driving the steering wheel with your feet. Driving with your feet would require you to learn new things since your not used to it, but you dont have to drive with your feet. I perfer to use my hands to control the steering wheel, but thats just me. If eliminating ingame lag is cheating, then using 3rd party programs/modified versions of the original emulator to manipulate the frame speed at your command and other various things, should REALLY be illegal. "The tools are not there to just overcome our lack of being perfect players, but to give us superhuman perception and godly control of the game." Sounds like cheating to me, But since our goal is provide an entertaining video, then neither overclocking, or tool assist programs are considered cheating. Now, it WOULD be considered cheating, if this sites goal would be to provide entertaining videos without manipulation of the game or the game engine of any form or fashion(also known as 'legit' speed runs, TSA is widely known and respected for his 'legit' speed runs). Another thing that has to be done, is Like Mr. Bisqwit has done, is he has informed the public, that the people on this site do infact use these tools to their advantage. Same thing with Overclocking, you have to inform the public that you are taking advantage of overclocking and you also must know what MHZ the player clocked it to.
Posted: 1/5/2005 2:52 AM
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ya, I figured the chances of you guys already uploading torrents to their sites was pretty good, but just incase I was wrong. The fall of SuprNova.org was a shame, but those other sites took the torrents, so woot!
Posted: 1/5/2005 12:55 AM
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I think what would be cool is have a page that sorts the videos by most downloads. Just to see whose got the most downloads. oh.. and another idea, which im sure you guys already do this, but what you should do is post your torrents on popular torrent sites. Like for example www.torrentspy.com or www.torrentreactor.net.
Posted: 1/2/2005 3:12 AM
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'your computer' only accepts two simultaneous keystrokes, so im guessing it beeps when you hit more than two? If thats the case then try going into the 'integrated peripherals' and see if there are any options (which I doub there will be). Gate a20 might be one of them, but I doubt messing with that will fix anything. If your computer doesnt beep, then get a new kb, preferably usb. I saw the kid chameleon run, I guess you would have to play and like the game to enjoy the run (this probably applies to any run for that matter).
Posted: 12/31/2004 11:59 PM
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Whats wrong with your computer?and ya.. I dont think anyone is going to be doing a video :|. But someone will in the future and this information will be good for that. So all new information is welcome.
Posted: 12/31/2004 1:39 AM
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omg dude.. this works like a champ.. This will save LOTS of time. I've tried this trick before and was unsuccessful, but its like.. RIGHT after you hit the switch, down+A and BAM you go so fast. Very nice find dude. O.. and the funny thing is, you can actually go THROUGH the platform
Posted: 12/29/2004 11:57 PM
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Thanks for all the advice truncated, and all the trouble you went through to get those links. But I was saying I didn't know how to use the record stuff in general more of an excuse not to do a speed run. But it is the truth that I really didn't know enough about the recording functions to do a speed run, I was just using it as a crutch. I don't think I'll be doing a speed run on this game, /* did a good enough job on it. But more of the fact that I don't really have enough time to do one. I was bored one day and decided to see how fast I could go through each level with nightcrawler only one day, and then decided to see if anyone would work with me on a speed run (have them do the speed run and have me give them the information), but found this thread instead and gave some tips. But I find it enjoyable to help with this kind of stuff (not actually doing one myself). But here are the updates on the pyramid: I worked for an hour(maybe an hour and a half) or so trying to skip the floor, didnt succeed but learned alot of stuff. Heres how the teleportation works as far as limitations are concerened. The only time you can really take advantage of your yellow health bar, is if you go straight up without jumping, diagonal without jumping, or left or right (left or right, doesnt matter if you jump or not). In the pyramid level, it shouldnt matter whether you have a yellow bar or not as far as skipping levels (or atleast it shouldnt matter), because you are limited by the top edge of the screen. The top edge of the screen works like this: It limits you to how high you go can on a platform basis. For example: If I jump on a platform above me, the computer recalculates right then and there how high the top edge of the screen will move up. Tricks/useless knowledge that I've learned: ============================ Trick 1 - If you power-up, pause it, let go of your power-up button, and unpause, your power-up will stay at the level you paused it at, and you can use it to its full extent just by tapping the button once. So if I wanted to, I could charge it up half-way, pause it, let go of my button, unpause it, and my power will be half-way and stay that way. So the next time I hit my power move button, it does like it should and executes your power half-way (or whatever level you set it to). Information/Trick 2 - In the pyramid level, if you want good testing grounds to perfect how high you jump without rocks getting in your way, shaking your screen, etc etc. Then go to the floor right under the boss. The floor with all the health on the screen, and 3 midgets side by side. If your on that floor, the boss quits throwing rocks, and you can test how high you can jump without all the inconvenience. And you can use the pillars as a good height measure. UselessInfo/Trick 3 - Pyramid level, those blocks right above your head that block the rocks from hitting your head, if you find a midget on a level above you, and hes standing right above one of those blocks, if you teleport on the midget and on the blocks at the same time, It wont kill the midget due to the fact that the teleport hit only registers hitting the blocks instead of the midget. Same thing if you teleported and hit a rock and a midget at the same time (I think, in theory it should be the same thing). With this said, it seems impossible to skip a level. Here are the theories I've came up with: Theory 1: The rocks that are falling down, time one just perfect, double flip, and diagonal kick it, then teleport. This theory WILL NOT work because like I said above, that piece of rock doesnt count as a platform, so the top of the screen wont move up. Theory 2: This is a promising theory and I think it will work. This is probably how I got to skip the level that one time. If you notice that when a rock hits, the top of the screen shakes. So, if you can time it right, Get the Highest double flip possible, and teleport right when the rock hits/the screen moves up. Time it perfect and the next level is yours.
Posted: 12/29/2004 2:56 AM
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hey.. im going to work on what I said I was going to work on in the post above tommorrow, because I just got my wisdom teeth taken out today, and these pain killers are making me too sleepy. Sorry I cant stay up and help you out. Ill work on it tommorrow. I didnt think Ide enjoy doing this, but this craps pretty fun. gnite.
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