Okay, here's the recording: http://dehacked.2y.net/microstorage.php/info/50258790/s3k_ra_st_test.gmv It ends just before the boss of act 1, but the second part is mostly quite crude. The ROM used seems to be the same as in the Knuckles ring attack, "Sonic and Knuckles & Sonic 3.bin". I wasn't sure what would be the best way to explain it, but the recording should solve that problem. I thought the lightning shield wouldn't save enough time compared to using the bubble on the elevator, but somehow I didn't think of using Tails there. I'm not so sure about the bubble anymore. Thanks for the explanation on the respawn mechanics, it may save some time in the future. I did some preliminary planning for Act 2 when I made the practice run, but since I didn't know (and still don't know) how to visit Knuckles's section if it's possible, I quite much ignored it.
Posting for the first time, please forgive any possible misunderstandings. TheYogWog, if you want to try some specific strategies, I did a test run for AIZ1 ring attack in early summer, and comparing it to your run, it was some seconds faster - the screen locks at in-game time 0:48. On the other hand, it wasn't newgame+, so I ignored the bonus ring and saved some time there. I began like in feeuzz's WIP, but after landing Sonic, I -spindashed Tails out of the screen (to the right) as soon as possible -visited the upper-left platform with Sonic while keeping Tails near the three rings between the 2nd and 3rd palm trees -used the spring on the 2nd palm tree to move Sonic straight to the middle platform just behind the 3rd palm tree; at the same time, I collected the three rings on the ground with Tails as they got loaded, after which Tails despawned -collected the three rings on the middle platform with Sonic; Tails had respawned and, by getting close to Sonic during the ring collecting jump, became controllable again.
This might save a second or so. Later, after the loop, I -got the bubble shield with Sonic, while going for the three underwater rings with Tails -used the bubble instead of the spring for getting out of the water -started pushing the rock with Tails before Sonic arrived -used the bubble immediately after moving the rock out of the way, getting down faster -popped two monitors at once (IRC, not possible without the bubble) and bounced off the ground, and -popped the third monitor from the side (IRC, also not possible without the bubble) and used the spring to get out. I'm not sure how this approach would compare to using feeuzz's strategy while also getting the monitors, but I like having the bubble in the underwater tunnel of the second part of the level - you don't have to wait for the elevator if you have the bubble.
I also have a question for everyone. I noticed while doing the test run that, as I mentioned, a respawned Tails can be controlled after he gets close enough to Sonic. I tried to search for information on it but wasn't successful. Are the exact conditions for it to happen known? Also, where exactly does he respawn?
Hope you guys enjoy it.
It’s Amy alone — it’s the same run I already shown you when I told you about Ice Cap glitch, which made you lolwut and wtf :) Amy+Tails would be certainly even faster. For example, in MGZ1, it would be possible to take shorter route in the beginning (making a big jump to take a shortcut). Of course, it would be also more lovely :3 But I’m bad at playing 2 characters at once (though I actually can do it) — feeuzz is a lot better, but he doesn’t think he has enough experience with Amy to join this WIP. So he only helped me a bit.
Amyway, I’m not sure if I will submit the movie to TASvideos after finishing. I probably will, but I realize it can be rejected because the game is a hack. It’s mainly a project for my youtube channel, as many people know me as TASer of Amy. :)
Wow. WST and feeuzz are gonna be pissed when they se this.
And the worst thing is that he does not seem to let others point him at his mistakes (as his last submission shows).
Wow, just wow, I’ve just improved 2 zones in my Amy@S3K any% TAS WIP Marble Garden improved by ~ 10 seconds Carnival Night 2 improved by ~ 45 seconds Both improvement come from new shortcuts I found for Amy I am really happy tonight :)
Bon bah tout à recommencer ^^" 8h de travaille foutu en l'aire (3 level) du fait que j'utilisais un émulateur obsolète. XD (oui à 23h30 ^^") Bon je recommencerais demain sur le nouvel émulateur. ^^"
Now that I've seen the previously published ring attack run, I've remember this video. I think it's very entertaining. :), someone should tackle this one again. :P
I think that if this is re-visited, it should be renamed <character> ring attack. The advantage of calling it a ring attack is that getting the perfect bonuses is just a side-effect. It doesn't lead to the weird ambiguity on levels where perfect bonus is impossible of 'well, do you try as hard as you can, or just ignore rings'. Ring attack = you always get as many rings as possible.
-_- I had a weird dream a few hours ago. I was walking on nothing, and my friend told me I had a slope glitch. IRL, I mean. Have no idea who was that friend though — maybe feeuzz, but I’m not sure. Btw, I wasn’t Sonic, I was myself. For some reason, TAS-related dreams visit me way too often -_-
Made a TAS on Chemical Plant Zone act 1 in Sonic 2: Master Edition 3. Sloppy, but entertaining. Link to video
…And the second revision…
One thing I noticed about S1 is that it seems like you don't actually get the points for the end-of-level stamps unless you get them before the score tally begins for the time and ring bonuses. It would be neat to see the run get over 1 million points (especially when it would have barring that odd behavior);
