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just curious but is anyone officially working or planning to work on this game? i see a lot of ideas being thrown around in this thread but can't seem to find a post of someone actually working on it. i too would like to see a run done if there's a SOM god out there willing to take it on :)
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i've never heard of this game before so i looked it up. looks like a chrono-trigger type rpg. how long do you think it would take you to finish this game? so far it looks like a long rpg and usually time-attack movies dont last more than an hour. but then again people are trying to time-attack secret of mana and zelda 3.. good luck :)
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i appreciate the positive comments guys :)
i plan to finish the movie. however due to time constraints, it will probably be several weeks until the whole thing is complete so please have patience with me :) i will post updates every week or two.
currently i'm trying to calculate exactly how much damage each weapon does. during that boss tank run i've learned a lot about how the weapons and damage work in this game. once i figure out the weapon damage values, i can start planning out the best order to take out the bosses efficiently as well as which planes to use.
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First stage finally complete! I try to keep the game entertaining by doing some fancy flying and killing the first boss extremely fast (IMO). Tell me what you guys think so far. Making a good movie is a lot more time-consuming than I thought :/
http://nvdata.pilif.ch/georgexi-U.N.Squadron-1stStage.smv
Thanks to pilif for setting up a hosting site for temporary files.
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Kyrsimys wrote:
What planes are you going to use? When I played this back in the day I always saved my money for the best plane, but you could only get it for the last 3 stages or so if you didn't fight those trucks, so I guess doing almost all the stages with the first plane would be pretty boring. Have you thought about this? How about efficiency? Do you think it would simply be faster to get the best plane so you could use all the special weapons for the last bosses? I'm really looking forward to this and I hope you have the patience to finish the run.
Ah the speed vs entertainment dilemma...
I haven't decided whether I'm going efreet or not. One of my main goals is killing the bosses as fast as possible and I'm not sure if the crusader is the best plane choice for the first few bosses (until I get efreet). Also from an entertainment standpoint, it would be more entertaining to buy other planes and use plenty of special weapons.
I've been testing various weapon combos and the gunpod seems to be the highest damage/sec weapon in the game (not including megacrush). The stealth ray and efreet are the only two planes that can use it.
So I guess the plane choices come down to:
A. crusader, efreet
B. crusader, ????, stealthray
Then if you choose option B, which plane would be the best 2nd plane? It's a shame there's no "credit card" bug I can abuse to buy any plane I want :)
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question for the UN Squadron fans... which pilot do you think would be the most efficient: Shin or Mickey? Greg is pretty useless since i dont plan on getting hit. Shin level-ups his main gun the fastest but Mickey can use multiple special weapons at once. I'm thinking spamming multiple special weapons while firing the main gun would kill the bosses the fastest.
i guess to answer my own question... turns out Mickey can't use multiple special weapons after all. Using one special weap immediately followed by a different special "erases" the first one. I'm surprised Capcom didnt notice such a serious flaw which basically makes Mickey useless. I guess the only obvious choice for pilot is Shin.
For those interested, I'm almost done the first stage. I'm pretty happy with it so far and will upload it for review/comments as soon as the first stage is done. I basically need to know if you guys think it is entertaining enough to continue on. Currently I'm trying to figure out a good plan for killing the first boss as quickly as possible. Turns out when you damage an enemy, they are invincible for two frames after getting hit. I'm trying to time the bombs and shots to maximize damage in as little time as possible (while dodging a billion missiles too of course :)
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Truncated wrote:
Read the FAQ already.
i read all the txt files included with Snes9x and none of them mention anything about advancing one frame at a time or viewing which frame you're on. there were no stickies or instructions in the snes9x forum either. after digging a while on the main site, i did find http://tasvideos.org/UsingEmulatorTools.html which explains everything i needed to know.
question for the UN Squadron fans... which pilot do you think would be the most efficient: Shin or Mickey? Greg is pretty useless since i dont plan on getting hit. Shin level-ups his main gun the fastest but Mickey can use multiple special weapons at once. I'm thinking spamming multiple special weapons while firing the main gun would kill the bosses the fastest.
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You have to specify how many and which controllers your video uses. It's done when you select File-Record Movie.
Remember to put it from reset while you're at it.
i cant believe i totally missed those checkboxes. thanx
it took me almost an hour just to record the following: get to main screen, go to options, change difficulty, go back to main screen, start game, pick shin, pick first stage, pick bombs, start stage, shoot down first 4 helicopters... at this rate i should have the whole game done in about 5 years :)
how do you guys not go crazy recording these things? i had to rerecord a few times just trying to buy bombs "quickly". turns out spamming a key when you're in super slow motion is the same as holding down that key in regular mode. in order to register certain commands, it needs to see a frame where the key is not held down.
is there a way to see which frame you're on or advance one frame at a time so i can "let go of the key"?
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Kyrsimys wrote:
What do you mean by a "gamer" type run? I'm not completely sure if this can be made interesting to the general public even with the hardest difficulty setting and creative use of the special weapons. Having played this one a helluva lot back in the day, I'd die to see a good run of this.
gamer is the hardest difficulty (harder than HARD) :) To get it to show up, you have to hold A and X on the 2nd controller but for some reason I cant get the 2nd controller to work during a record.
But yeah I loved this game way back in the day. I'm surprised no one has made a run of it yet. I figure if Gradius 3 can make it hopefully this game can too.
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Frenom wrote:
Heh..
The problem with me is that I start several of runs and not completing them :P
This game is one of them :)
[URL]http://frenom.areta.org/smv/un-squadron-u.smv[/URL]
This SMV is played at difficult GAMER and it ends at lvl 4.
what you have so far is pretty nice. you should definitely finish it! :)
how did you get the 2nd player controls to work during record? for some reason when i'm playing the game normally, i can get GAMER to show up but during a record, it wont come up... ??
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hey guys. i'm considering tryin a "gamer" run of this game if enough people are interested in seeing it. however seems a lot of auto-side-scrolling games get rejected so i'm wondering if it would be worth my time.