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I would vote Yes if I could watch the ending. I look forward to the AVI.
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Thank goodness this run is being submitted by the author of the last run. I couldn't take another 8 pages of debate. Argh. In level 5 Thomas stops moving forward, gets surrounded by knife throwers and gets owned. Ow, my emulator! I haven't been able to get this movie to not desync.
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Sleepz wrote:
With the wobbling, you said you didn’t want to see it constantly, yet 36 frames is enough to make you favor a video full of wobbling.
It's not full of wobbling. If it was constant it would be annoying, but it's not, and it's faster, so I'm voting Yes. I'm also not going to get into a war of words with anyone. I have stated that I want the movie to be judged on its own merits. I feel that 36 frames is a significant accomplishment for SMB2 and am voting Yes. You may feel that it is too similar to the precedent run and vote No. Democracy is wonderful. I just hope the outcome of the vote isn't based on egos or sparing anyone's feelings. I've said my piece. Good day sir.
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For the record, I don't consider the wobbling an unforgivable sin. I wouldn't want to see it constantly, but it wasn't overly distracting. All I ever noticed was that someone found a way to improve a nearly flawless run by 36 frames, and my hat is off to him. If it hurts someone's ego to lose their record by a mere 36 frames, that's unfortunate, but I'm sure he'll set another record in the near future. Every movie will be beaten eventually. I'm just impressed that SMB2 can still be improved.
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Ironic that the n00bs are usually less biased than the veterans. Forget about who did what and judge the movie.
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I think you should copyright your run then, Sleepz. This site is chock full of plagiarism.
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Well, it certainly succeeded in making an awful lot of people look foolish and petty. Hard to believe supposedly intelligent people care so much about 36 frames. Thank you, Phil. Just for that, you get a Yes vote.
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I think I mentioned that we're also trying to be artistic and entertaining. If you were to beat the record by one frame but it was less entertaining, people would probably ask you to try again. As Bisqwit says, that's off topic. Is Phil's run less entertaining than the current run? Pretty much couldn't be, since it's the same, right? So, it's entertaining and 36 frames faster. I think that meets all of the necessary criteria. Yes vote.
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Amen, Deviance. This is not an ego collection. Don't worry about hurting someone's feelings or loyalty to previous authors or philosophical differences or religious beliefs or sexual orientation or preference for Pepsi or Coke. Judge the movie for what it is, regardless of sleepz's movie.
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Yeah, maybe they should stop giving the gold medal to the fastest runners and the highest scoring teams and award prizes for most entertaining run and most artistic passing. I mean, why bother going for perfection? Why should we accept the fastest time if the second fastest time was pretty good? Sorry USA, we're awarding the women's 1000m butterfly record to Russia because their swimmers are hotter. Nice swim, though. That was the fastest swim ever. You were one boob job from getting the gold.
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If the goal isn't perfection then what the hell am I doing here? The goal is perfection, and you try to make it artistic and entertaining as well.
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I just want to thank KaitouKid for so humorously reminding us all that there's no point in bickering about this. I would also like to say that I think, for the most part, people have been sportsmanlike on this site up until now. When someone posts a run and people find a flaw in it before it's published, they point it out. If they wanted to see their name in lights, they could simply rerecord the movie themselves and have the faster run. When people have new ideas, they often post about them in the forums first. Everyone offers helpful advice and we support each other in the goal of creating the best possible movies. As I have said, and many others have said, the goal is perfection. If someone submits a slightly faster run, even if it's not SMB1, it deserves to be considered as a possible new record. If no one can find a flaw in the workmanship, it deserves to be published. It's as simple as that. And do you know WHY it's as simple as that? Because if we don't stick to that goal, we'll have people crying foul in an ever increasing number of situations. Foul for beating sleepz by 36 frames. Foul for beating Terimaksih because everyone knows that he's the Super Metroid god, and if anyone finds a way to beat his run, they should tell him so he can do it and still be king. Foul for beating bisqwit because it's his site. Foul for beating ME because I worked so bloody hard on this run and you didn't even do anything new. If we allow that kind of consideration, it's just going to create problems. It's not a popularity contest, and it's not like winning the Nobel Prize. They're tool-assisted speed runs, and I want to see the best one, regardless of how many frames it beat the last one by. See you all at the Special Olympics next year.
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I agree. From now on, a world record in the 100m sprint should have to be beaten by at least 0.05 seconds in order to be a new record. No more of this 0.01 crap. It's totally unfair to the person who ran 9.78 to lose their title to someone who finished in 9.77. If you can't beat them by a large margin, don't beat them at all.
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Interesting that half a second isn't considered a lot in SMB2, which is only 7:54 long, but it would be greeted with such fanfare if it was SMB1, where everyone is desperate to see it listed as 4:59. If only sleepz's run had been 8:00, those 36 frames would have broken a psychological barrier and created a new milestone.
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It doesn't matter if the route changed or not. If the last run wasn't quite as fast as it could have been, Phil has every right to submit a faster run. If the areas that were improvable had been discovered before publication, everyone would have insisted that they be re-recorded.
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Just as an FYI, this movie was created with the PRG1 version of this ROM.
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Good enough for a Yes from me.
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The long overdue warpless run. It's a good movie, but I don't see the point in voting Yes when there are so many known improvable areas. It will just be obsoleted when someone fixes them, which might even be tomorrow if someone is dedicated enough. Remember the Donkey Kong competition?
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Count me among the people who has never played this game but thinks that you played it very well. Yes vote.
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Turn off "Use WIP1 Timing" if you're using the better rerecording version. That stopped the desynch for me.
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I think you guys have just found a way to make speedruns of fighting games worth watching. Most fighting games use similar button combinations. If you can beat up two guys at the same time, I'll watch it.
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Um, all 3 going at the same time? That would just... are you a robot?
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You... What?... How?... I mean, you just... Ho-Lee Crap. You did not just do that. You created a set of inputs that plays two different games and kept it synched through level selection screens, levels and boss fights, still pulling off incredible stunts, playing both extremely well and beating them quickly??? I mean... I have no words for this. I mean, I guess, in theory, you could make a run like this for any two games but, in most cases, enormous amounts of time would have to be wasted to get everything just right in both games, and they probably wouldn't be very entertaining. This is the most amazing TAS accomplishment I have ever seen. You get a Yes vote, and I salute you. When this is published, and it must be, both runs have to be shown simultaneously so that everyone can understand why it's played the way it is. Un-freaking-believable. Can I have your autograph?
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GuanoBowl wrote:
KMFDManic wrote:
technos ice hockey is about as close as you can get to the canceled crash n boys ice challenge...
Thanks for the update Ted Copple
What was that you were saying about being a jackass? To really talk about general techniques for making movies, you should probably discuss it in the forums and not in the thread devoted to the submission. To the untrained eye, this thread looks a lot like the author is a newcomer asking for help, while being arrogant and short-tempered with those who answer. It's a good thing we all know that you're really not a bad guy and have a sincere desire to learn and receive advice. We're all on your side, buddy.
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No problem. I just wish I had noticed your question a year ago.
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