Perhaps, an automatically calculated table would help. It's like a list of submissions, automatically updated and sorted by:
priority I: accepted (waiting for publishing)/new (unjudged);
priority II: 'yes' vote coefficient;
priority III: something else.
Guessing from Nesvideos site statistics page, it won't be that hard to do. At least I hope so. Even if it won't help much, it'll still be handy to have it within easy reach.
Warp wrote:
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"Exter" could be the German version of the Russian surname "Экстер", I think.
Eh? Экстер can't originate from Russian, it doesn't even sound alike. Most of the russian surnames end with -ов/-ова (-ov/-ova), -ев/-ева (-ev/-eva) or -ин/-ина (-in/-ina), and a significant part of them originate from one of the common russian first names (Ivan -> Ivanov). I.e. my surname is Сергеев, transliterated as "Sergeev" or, which is more accurate, "Sergeyev"; it originates from the first name Сергей (Sergey). Sometimes you can see strange russian surnames which originate from certain russian words, but that's pretty uncommon. The pattern descripted above is right in about 95% of cases.
Warp wrote:
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My vote will be the 30th. ;)
I waited for a long time, and finally it's here, with (almost) all the superb maneuvers. My gratitude to you, Mega. :)
Edit: Hmm, moreover, this is my 100th post on Nesvideos forums. Nice!
Warp wrote:
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! - Pending response from author (questions about movie or techniques used)
Hmm, why do you need another vote option for that when you can just wait and not vote? :)
Xkeeper wrote:
...another feature would be to add a small icon denoting what the user voted in each post by the sidebar or something to make it easier, and also noting how many voted and didn't post.
AFAIK, that is not possible in phpBB. Something like IPB is required, I think.
Warp wrote:
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The problem is, the new question addresses only the feelings of the voters at the time they watched the run without including their objective appraisal of the run's value.
No, the problem is that there is no such thing as objective appraisal. The reason is, to do an appraisal, you must invent a criterion, which may be counted as objectiveonly if everyone who can vote share the same opinion on it. As you can see, even speed can't be such a criterion, let alone "entertainment". Let's think of a person who likes eating crap, I assume this is what entertains him, right? Does that entertain you? No? :D
But it still entertains that person! And that's the precise reason not to call eating crap objectively unentertaining. Now replace eating crap with everything else.
What next, artistical impression? Oh, forget it. That's even worse to judge than eating crap. ;)
See, more or less, every single person involved in voting acts subjectively, simple as that. So, if there will be no universal criteria which will be adopted by everyone on this board as a TOS at the very least, you won't get any objectivised judging. Everything will just go as it does now.
nitsuja wrote:
"Did you like watching the movie more than you liked watching the other one?"
Again, you will get situations like "but I like both of them" or "I like what he did in that movie, but that part was much better in previous one", etc. No exact criteria = no exact answer. Nothing really better than the already present system, as it doesn't solve the main problem.
Xkeeper wrote:
5 - highly entertaining / amazing
4 - kept interest but nothing special
3 - nothing really notable or neat
2 - flawed, obvious mistakes
1 - looks like it was played in real time with a half-broken controller
Based on this scheme, it would be wiser to differentiate ranks even further. Like this:
4 — Ninja/Star material (the runner invents something entirely novel, previously unimaginable to do in this game, and it shows the TAS-approach in its supreme form, indeed pushing the game to its limits);
3 — The run was executed flawlessly, but it doesn't show anything really unimaginable for the given game);
2 — The run was executed good, but may be improved due a different strategy/route planning or frame-by-frame analysis);
1 — The run is flawed, it has obvious mistakes and must be redone;
and, the most important part,
0 — I'm not familiar with this game at all, and thus cannot judge the run.
I think something like that may actually get the job done, but it will require anyone who wants to give at least "1" to get acquainted with the game at least on a basic level. Of course it won't get much more than 10—15 positive (I mean, "1" to "4") votes per run, but each one of that votes will be more precise, and at the same time, it will require voter to explain himself.
As for now, I can't think of a more effective voting system.
edit: wording.
Warp wrote:
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Many thanks for releasing a WIP, JXQ! I was very glad you finally considered releasing your work. :D
BTW, extremely good work, that is. Can't wait for the next part. :)
Warp wrote:
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Ahh… Rush'n Attack, I remember that retarded game — surprisingly, it was one of my NES favourites in the early 90's. I think it's because I am rather susceptible to video game music (and was even more susceptible back then), and this one manages to have rather listenable soundtrack, which is kinda rare for a 8-bit game. And the end scene is an idiocy at its best. :D
The movie's good, voting yes.
What a delightful memory came up with the 1000's submission, ehehe. :)
Warp wrote:
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Because in the 10 first levels he is 24 seconds (1432 frames at 60 Hz) behind the movie I'm making. Mine runs at 50 Hz (european version), so it looks slower in actual time if you don't compare the number of frames.
I somehow didn't realize it back then, but what was the exact reason you didn't take the 60 Hz version of the rom? 50 FPS look ridiculously slow compared to MrMonkeyMan's run, even if yours is frame perfect.
Warp wrote:
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I did a quick tool assisted run that I think could be of some use if anyone is actually still going to attempt this. It's on Super Hard and beats the game in 10.24 according to the game's timer.
Actually, the run is great! Why don't you submit it?
Warp wrote:
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Hahaha what a delight! Now this becomes one of my all-time favourite, I almost laughed my guts out as I watched all this guys falling off the edges again and again, every time in different fashion! :D Not to mention beautiful ass-kicking on bonus levels and whatnot. As a big fan of GA series, I give this a huge YES.
Care to do Golden Axe III? ;)
Warp wrote:
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I definitely won't give up the run just because of the problems and the slow and hard progress (if someone worries about that).
Well that's good to hear! Of course, I've been worried a bit (Michael's run was tested so thoroughly and restarted so frequently it was almost an inevitable publish, but the work froze on a 1/3, which was disappointing at the very least), but actually I believe in you and your ability to complete this daring project, so take all the time you need, just don't forget to inform us about any significant progress you make. :)
Saturn wrote:
I won't release the smv until the run is complete to not spoil the tension and the surprises of the complete run. However the next teaser-vid will be released when I defeat Ridley for which it will take some time though.
Yeah, I know. Actually, the question was for JXQ. :)
It's a pity next vid will be released only when you defeat Ridley though (that part will take, well, MUCH time to optimize).
JXQ wrote:
I'm not sure about WIPs, but I'm leaning toward not releasing any. I feel like it would put extra demand on me to finish the movie (even if it's just me thinking that) and it could affect quality tradeoff for how quick I can complete this project.
Hmm, why do you think like that? You can take any time you need anyway, as noone forces you to do otherwise, but WIPs will be some kind of documents of your progress, and they will allow us to compare some parts of your run with that of Teri and Michael (which of course will be an interesting thing to do). It's up to you to decide though, but I think the majority of us the interested people will enjoy following your work by regularly watching the WIPs. (Megafrost's Fusion run is the most recent example that comes on my mind.)
xou wrote:
This perfect run has killed Michael, now Saturn and JXQ are falling :]
ARGH! ‰(
Warp wrote:
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I think there's no real need to do any% run either, cause the difference would just be so minor, almost unnoticeable. And what would you gain for it? Like, 30 seconds faster for more than a hour of gameplay in both versions? That's ridiculous. Of course, this will make the game faster, but the run will just fill up the quota.
Just my two cents.
A 100% run would be better of course, and the planning won't be as hard as with Super Metroid with Fusion being far more linear than any single Metroid game (and even Metroid 2 I think).
Warp wrote:
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okay then...
forget it... i am on the wrong forum.
close and forget.
Don't get us wrong, just read the FAQ (and especially this paragraph) carefully to reget the concept of tool-assisted speedrunning.
I believe you can still optimize your run to its full extent and try to release it as a concept demo, or you can do a full-scale TAS on this or any other game. No offence meant, anyway. You are still welcome here.
Warp wrote:
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Remember when we all thought Teri's 46 second escape was as good as it got?
Well, I just couldn't remember that cause Teri had his run published waaay before I joined these forums. ;)
JXQ wrote:
No matter how much this game is optimized, it seems there is always another way to save frames somewhere.
I know that, but… whole 1.5 seconds! :0 This is grand. I think this would be one of my favourite 100% TAS together with spezzafer's Yoshi's Island 100%… when (if?) they will be ready.
BTW, do you plan on releasing a WIP anytime soon? It would be extremely appreciated. :)
On a related note, both to Saturn and JXQ: I request a little progress report. :>
As I'm extremely interested in both runs, and, as [it seems that] they are nothing near completion for now, I just want to know everything's going all right (and, well, just going). Besides, it's already three weeks that passed since Saturn's last answer on RBO run, and I'm desperate to know if there is something new to know about.
Warp wrote:
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Megafrost may do that in his run, if going that way is faster than not. He may or may not actually see the secret message, though, it'll depend on whichever way is fastest.
I doubt that way is faster. However, there is one more opportunity to see that message, check out the m2k2 site.
Warp wrote:
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