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nht
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Joined: 12/22/2010
Posts: 3
Having considered the branchport to Quest:1 some more, I'm less certain it's worth the wish for the Eye, compared to doing a drowning deathwarp via eg. scroll of flood, or nearby water on the Tourist/Healer quest. Comparing the sequence of actions Branchport version
    * Wish for the Eye * Enter Quest:1 to get the option to branchport there * Leave Quest:1 * Branchport adjacent to Quest Leader
Deathwarp version
    * Pick up amulet of life saving (perhaps in 0 actions via autopickup) * Put on amulet of life saving * Enter Quest:1 * Read scroll of flood/jump over water (last action of the turn) * Polymorph from air elemental to non-flying form, safe_teleds adjacent to Quest Leader * Polymorph back to air elemental
(possibly 2 more actions if loadstones/inventory stashing are necessary) So it seems like a toss-up, especially considering the limited availability of wishes for magical items in Un. Intuitively I'd say the deathwarp version is preferable in all but the most optimal run. The wish is likely better spent on some other essential item that it otherwise takes more actions to obtain than on a single-use branchport saving 1-4 actions. Re: the nethack-tas-tools, I skimmed through the files. Currently I lack access to a machine capable of hardware-assisted virtualization, so can't use the qemu-kvm part of the rerecording framework. I toyed with using dmtcp for the application checkpointing part, criu/lxc is another option (lxc recently got checkpointing capability). This is all less general/portable than the qemu-kvm approach but will hopefully let me churn out another quick run before the lack of reseeding gets patched out for Junethack. The pexpect stuff will be useful, for manipulating teleports, wishes, polypiling, etc. The modified NetHack looks neat, though it's beyond my current abilities to port the changes over to UnNetHack. I don't think there's any pressing need to finish a close-to-optimal TAS of UnNetHack. The routes for NetHack variants with the frame rule removed are going to look fairly alike (as long as you're collecting the same McGuffins). One TAS would probably suffice across all such variants. Then, it's best to choose the variant that is easiest to work with or that has the most interesting differences.
nht
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Joined: 12/22/2010
Posts: 3
Thanks for the link ais523, I've made available the instructions to reproduce this run here http://nethackwiki.com/wiki/User:Nht/T363_Un_seed_314022_win_notes I also used some luck manipulation for stuff like getting decent rolls out of charging scrolls, wresting a wish (you only get one try in Un, though it's more likely) and getting djinn from lamps to grant a wish on the first #rub. I think 7 wall bumps was the most I did on any occasion. Though the random alchemy was the most frustrating, had a terrible run of luck getting water to become sickness first try. I mention in my reply to you on reddit some ideas for a v2 run on a different seed. The seed I'm thinking of is 53800, starting 2 steps from a wand of wishing(1:2) with another wand of wishing(1:2) on Geh:43. All Planes save Air can be sequence broke with death warps (via scrolls of flood), we start next to the portal on Air. Probably will be a monk to save a wish on the Eyes of the Overworld, then we can manipulate a branchport to skip traversing Quest:1. Will probably use the nethack-tas-tools for the luck manipulation. Is there a plan for where to move the repository when gitorious closes in a month?
nht
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Joined: 12/22/2010
Posts: 3
Some ideas to pass the turns
    *throw a party in the castle(lots of thrown/shattered booze) *set up an arena and have the named demons fight for your amusement *play a game of american football with two teams of giants *epic battle with Vlad killing him with 1hp left (alternatively, kill him as a grid bug) *demolish minetown with a drum of earthquake *polymorph into a black pudding and farm yourself *assemble an army of Schroedinger's Cats *map the dungeon while hallucinating