ill provide my savestate, which should work. the translation i was using was one with an IPS patch... i cant even remember where i got it its been so long ago.
savestate
How long is this run? (in-game time...)
Also, how do I play the file? Do I need to change it to a smv file?
Im wondering if anything should ever be bought as far as weapons/armors are concerned. perhaps running shoes in mirage before n-zone? (and rememeber, money is not a problem).
- Well, if you're going to use Jump, maybe some spears (though you'll use it for the 1st time to "hide" from Titan's Attack...)
- Maybe some shields to raise Defense & Evade...
- If you're going to use GP Toss, then steal useful weapons to equip & sell the rest...
BTW, do you think that buying the expensive rings worth? I think they gave you good magic defense, so that might come handly...
/*- wrote:
Ok, im not having TOO much trouble running from battles. only 2 instances have occured thus far i had trouble with. one was Garkimasa in Worus Basement. he had to attack and kill someone first before we ran. the next was the Sand Bears of Sand Tides (3 TIMES THIS HAPPENED! thank god someone lived). so, why there and not anywhere else?
Mmm, if you have a Thief to dash, you can use the flee ability... If I'm not mistaken Faris will be the fastest, so she might be best for Thief... (Though I guess that's what you're doing, right?)
Just curious, why did you needed to go to Worus Basement? Was it only for money or for also for getting the Elf's Cloak...?
BTW, if you need help, you can also try asking on GameFAQs FFV forum. There are several people that knows really good this game... (Like all the questions that are still unanswered...)
Also, if you wanna test some fights (or avoid them), here are some codes (though I know that you can't use them for the run :P)
7E0B5600 No Battles
7E0B5601 Instant Battles
i suppose i should pick up elixirs as well as i head through the game then (to not battle Apocalypse).
I think you should look for an enemy where you can steal an elixir, because they cost A LOT...
/*- wrote:
(i dont know that the final will, but if i miss it in barrier, ill try and get level 3 flare and level 2 old).
You might wanna check the earliest way to get the blue spells FAQ... BTW, I don't think you'll use Lv 4 many times, but maybe it's worth to check if it will come handy later...
/*- wrote:
War Hammer's are bought from Lugor for 6400... and generally halving that is 3200, but i dont know if thats how this games system works.
Right, you sell it for half price :P . Mmm, maybe their normal Steal item was around 1,150 (Haven't played the game lately...)
/*- wrote:
and the graphic bug seems fun enough to look at (it may cost a second or so, but it would still be a bit of a A-HA! THEY USED IT! or WTF!? moment).
The glitch will only happen when Zeza dies & Galuf is waiting for him outside the cave... This glitch happens because Galuf temporally leaves the team & the 1st person takes place as the other player...
/*- wrote:
and i can just see the ExDeath battle with Galuf. he saps me of all life and then i use and exploder and do 0 damage (if Exploder damage = current HP; i think it does) and hes defeated. ...or that might just be me.
Mmm, I can be wrong, but I believe you'll need at least 1 HP to kill yourself (I might be wrong there...) BTW, does this strat counts as a glitch?
EDIT: OH, and i just figured out why my Blue Mages Goblin Punch wasnt doing that much damage... i didnt re-equip them with weapons at some point. so weapons determine their power. now if he'd stop targeting Lenna and STUN became a more FREQUENT occurence, id have no problem.
Mmm, I'm not so sure how much you can manipulate a fight, but I've seen that if you don't attack, the enemies/boss may do a different attack... (You could try changing rows, use an item, block, ...)
what about the Apocalypse battle? its relatively short and provides a save point to fully heal your party.
I don't think you'll need to heal badly, but if you do, I think that if you can get enought elixirs, that would be faster than the animation of the Tent/Cottage ... (That's just an speculation, but maybe it needs to be checked...)
use Exploder = hes dumb enough to try it out and ruin himself = 2 people dead, battle won.
however, skipping him would avoid this and we wouldnt have to learn Exploder so very early on in the game (WAY back in the Byurbolos battle).
Mmm, not sure if I tested it (I think I did) but would exploding with Mix command also work? (I don't think so, but it's worth a try...)
as well, what about a bit of leveling up (GASP!!)? theres the shield dragon in world 2 between Lugor and Moogle Forest, or the Statues in Val Basement (is that a good EXP place, or just ABP?). its mainly because of my fear of running low on MP at a needed time (or not having enough PERIOD). if you think its a good idea, let me know and of places that might also be reasonable to gain quickly (well, after Ancients Library, because we need set levels up until that point).
Mmm, not the strenght of mine... I usually use cheats for ABP when I play :P (and levels won't be to important, except for MP as you mention...)
Anyway, you should probably wanna get the Hairpins to half the MP used by magic... (Unless they take long time to obtain...) As for the Statues on Val Basement, well you're going to have Lv 5 doom, which will kill them instantly. Not sure if you'll need badly to get some abilities, but IIRC it was a decent place for ABP, as for Exp. you should fight the ShieldDragons (they are in the castle where you can get the legendary weapons...), though you'll need at least 1 person to control it (so you won't have probs killing it...)
While you get some ABP, you might wanna master 1 person with Elementalist, because of preventing damage with lava & spikes... You'll only need 175 ABP points to Master the job, so it won't take to much time... BTW, you should check how much ABP points you'll need for Mix ability, to see if it's worth getting it or is it better just using the Chemist job...
As for ABP & Exp on world 3, well the X-zone is the choice, though that comes very late... (But I think you won't need to battle that much on world 3 anyway...)
Edit:bmgenji wrote:
however, skipping him would avoid this and we wouldnt have to learn Exploder so very early on in the game (WAY back in the Byurbolos battle).
Exploder helps in Galuf vs Ex-Death battle, allowing you to end it in seconds.
Correct, but you can also mix a Explosive (Turtle Shell + Dark Matter), to kill yourself & finish the battle.
About leveling:
Use BlackFlame x 5 formation to get some levels and money. Level 10 it's enough to have MP you needed for Blue Magic.
For money, you'll use the Steal Glitch. You can rare steal some WarHammers from BioSoldiers, which sells for around 1,150 each if I'm not mistaken... (They appear near the Town of Jacole)
Oh BTW, I now remember another bug (though it's graphical) Clonning Galuf after Atomos Battle. You'll just need to place Galuf in the 1st position...
Mmm, all I can think is that you don't have a good weapon... You could check instructrtrepe's FAQ & see what it says, he won't mind at all if you use some info of his FAQ for the game...
As for known bugs, I only know about the Steal glitch & the magic Return glitch (the one that enables you to skip Lenna/Reina). And both have been mentioned...
Oh, here are some clarifications:
WORLD 1-for the guns, use Thunder Scrolls or Rods; you'll most likely learn Emission and Missile
-samurai goroh's LLG notes that 4 thunder rods or scrolls will take them out and that the Terrain > Gale Cut will make short work of the ROCKET LAUNCHERS
Gale Cut deals a decent amount of damage, but it doesn't KO them in 1 hit... (Well, maybe if your level is high enought...)
WORLD 2-on the bridge, the battles CAN be avoided (see a below post that has a map and a link to the site)
More or less, the only unavoidable battle is the 1st one (The one with Lil' Charriots...)
-according to samurai goroh's FAQ, you can learn Level 2 Old here (though it just notes level 2) from a Wall Knight. through controlling i suppose?
The wall knight will reflect the magic back to your team, that's how you can learn it if you control the Tricksters...
-dont fight Gilgamesh?
Well it sucks, but I'm sure this will cut some time :( (Gilgamesh is the coolest boss IMO)
WORLD 3 -as well, Sekmet is unavoidable; goroh's FAQ notes to blind him.
-Sekmet is level 41 and heavy. would a few Dark Shocks do the trick instead, or perhaps something else?
Sekmet isn't unavoidable. I just mention a strat because he's a pseudo boss (according to some people, any boss shouldn't give you exp & you shouldn't be able to escape from battle...)
WANTED (more of a personal reason perhaps): How does Level 2 Old work exactly (or Old for that matter)
how long does it take for a stat to decrease (levels most importantly)?
For personal experience, Lv2 Old will decrease the boss/enemy level 1 by 1, at a relative fast rate (like 1-2 secs per level). I think Lv2 Old decreases the level, which produces to also decrease some status, like Mg Attack, though I might be wrong...
-WANTED (again, a personal request): can someone determine what Dark Shock rounds to? such as, Dark shock on an odd number and which number it chooses (such as 71; does it go to 35 or 36?)
It will round down... Points at Atomos strat ;)
-NEEDED: list of unavoidable battles (such as Lil Charriots on Big Bridge) and strats for dealing with them efficently
Only Goblins at the beginning & Lil' Charriots are unavoidable & will give you exp. ... For the enemies that appears on the Ancient Library inside a book, you can run & you won't need to fight (though you might wanna fight here to learn Lv 5 Doom). The Aspis on the Pyramid Desert are annoying but you can avoid them (This kind of visible enemies can be avoided if you don't look each other)...
-Rods or Scrolls - Scrolls are cheaper, but remember your Magic Power effects their power. so Rods might be better for the job (only Ninjas can THROW scrolls; anyone can break)
With the Steal Glitch you won't have money crisis, so I would say go for the Rods...
OK, add whatever needs to be added and chew me out for going through and neglecting or blatantly stealing w/e from whomever (Algorithim Guide, Low Level Guide, This Thread, Boss Guide, SDA Thread)
Well, if the advance version is exactly the same, I wouldn't mind as you can see the game in English (though you can rarely read something in a TAS run :P). But what if there are some differences that slow down the run? Like slower intro, fights, & so...
BTW, can someone try making a test run with the patched game? If someone tries it, I bet this game will have more attention & people helping each other to complete the run... (then you can switch back to the original version...)
Here's an Hex Chart that tells you how much Sp. you'll need to get certain Pokemon...
And in this page, it mentions that bug using a wild Ditto, so you can control how much Sp. will he have...
Well, you can save time when you wanna trigger a fight (or avoid it). If you walk in the forest, you'll fight earlier than if you walk in a plain path...
As for more secret passage, I think the next one that saves time is until exdeath's castle, on world 2...
I also think that walking into a save point will help you eventually, even if it's a TAS play, you might need sooner or later to use a tent or cottage to heal the party fully...
And samurai goroh: what is that steal glitch you mentioned? I couldn't find anything about it in GameFAQs.
Mmm, I remember there was a FAQ there, but it's still mentioned on the Cheats & codes section, Unlimited Weapons (and GP). (Maybe it was deleted or it was really a FAQ from IGN...)
Anyway, It may appear a little confusing at first glance, but once you try it, it's piece of cake...
Samurai Goroh, can you explain the rail slide in depth? how does it work? Also the problem with using the 3 cars you mentioned is that they are all unlockables. So no recording from power on.
I also forgot to mention that the car must have a bad grip, E if possible... :P
In order to slide, you'll need a heavy car with bad grip & set it to Max Acceleration (all the way to the left). Now, in the course you just need to press Left + R to slide to the right & Right + L to slide to the left. (It doesn't matter if it's a curve or not)
I know it's a bit confusion when you try it for the 1st time, but when you get the hang to it, you may only need to press any side & with the speed you have, the car will slide automatically ;)
I would recomend you to practice on Sand Ocean 2, it has lots of different kind of turns & for both sides... Oh, I almost forgot, when you play normally with max acceleration, you'll get a speed of about 750 km, but when you slide, you can easily get up to about 1200 km.
Since you can will only have the top tier, I THINK that the Golden Fox should be the best option to slide with. If you prefer, I could test with the 6 cars & see which one is the easiest to slide & check if it really saves you time on the Death Race...
blazekun wrote:
A couple of videos on that site show people getting insane speed during a 64DD custom track jump, how are they doing this? My only guess was that there were bombs in midair that they used to propel themselves. But if it's just something you can do during a normal jump would love to know as it would be helpful.
The insane speed is due to advance techniques not mentioned in the game. There's a floating guide on MFO, you can check it to give you an idea of how to do it. Basically, all you have to do is a side attack in the air, while you dive at certain angle. You can practice this really quickly on Rainbow Road (if you haven't discovered yet, then try Sector B)
blazekun wrote:
Also- if it's faster to boost ahead then spin attack, it would probably be possible to boost past everyone, then spin attack all the cars. As you can pretty much be in constant spin attack if your timing is frame on.
Well, more or less. You'll see, when you stop moving in the middle of a course, the cars will hit you with a spin attack. Which means that they will not be damaged at all, thereforward you won't be able to kill them in 1 shot...
I think that the best strat would be to boost-rail-slide until you almost catch the cars, then attack them with a spin attack still using the turbo, then use the break to attack the cars from behind, I think doing this twice & if some cars still survived, just attack them with a side attack...
Well, according to the site, the WR is 21"884, though there are other records that lower this time (probably fake...)
There's an IRC channel for F-zero games, the server is QuakeNet & the channel is fzerocentral. You could try asking somene there for a video, I couldn't find any...
As for the strat, JKT once mentioned that you could beat the Death Race in about 15-20 secs if you slide & get in front of every can in about 4 secs, then use the break & spin attack to take about 20 cars, then boost again to catch the remaining cars...
There's no 0'00"00 bug there, it's just that some people leaved the space at it was & some others cleared it... (I'm a member there...)
BTW, in order to get a fast time here, you need a slider car (heavy car with setting on max acceleration). When you start, you must boost-rail-slide & get ahead of everyone, then use the brake & spin attack. I know this is difficult on the console (as I prefer to use another strat), but with re-records, it shouldn't take to much...
If you don't know, the 3 best cars to slide are: Blood Falcon, Night Thunder & Crazy Bear...
Hey Vidar, when you start the run, don't forget that you can perform the steal glitch to steal good items or sell them for money (like those expensive rings or elixirs & so...), I don't think they would worth throwing, but may does...
If you don't know about the glitch, I think there was a FAQ on GameFAQs that explains it...
There's an invisible path where the Boss is, where you can walk through & save some time... (You can try using a thief in that part to see the path...). It's at the beginning of the entrance, like 3 or 4 steps... (this is from my memory, but I don't think I'm wrong...)
BTW, there are some hidden treasures that may slow down at the beginning, (Like the Fenix Down at the 1st meteor on the right...) but when you do the TAS, it would be good to check if you need some treasures (or quick money...)
Mmm, I deleted the game 'cause I downloaded it at school, then I tried to run again & didn't worked anymore. So I'd tried to download it again, but it doesn't work anymore...
I liked the puzzle, though I hate memorizing the maps...
BTW, is it possible to play again past levels w/o having to delete the save file?
Also, wouldn't be a good idea to have a table score of each level to see who can pass it faster?
Well, for those who has played any F-zero game should know, as my nick comes from that game... Samurai Goroh is the eternal rival of Captain Falcon.
I started using this nick when I joined e-groups (now called, yahoo groups), I wanted to have my nick as Captain Falcon, but it was already taken, so I chose the pilot I used most on F-zero to make records...
Since then, I keep using this nick for almost everything...
Has anybody played lately? Seems that trying to find better strats it's a lot harder now...
Hope that when my parcial exams finish, I can get some records & beat the levels I still miss...
