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Erim wrote:
There is one rule I have applied though:
No instant kills. All kills will be through damage. So I won't be using Vanish/Doom or Joker Doom, or even Fenix Down.
Yeah, it uses up more time, but it's more entertaining at the same time. Although I have to admit, watching a run for this game is hardly entertaining.
im glad you're working on it, but theres nothing entertaining about drawn out battles that don't have to be. abuse everything you can in the game. or maybe thats just me. still, happy to see someone working on this again. best of luck.
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that was on aresake's walkthru at SDA. i thought about it, but i cant even get a random encounter in there. and if i do, its never with those damn mages anyhow. it would be worth noting though.
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you could just mark instead of REJECTED one of the other options adelikat or tool23 noted. no need to make an entirely separate area for them. just a suggestion.
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EDIT: looks like i was wrong about the wall ring, but you're afforded a few options before its absolutely necessary (Catastroph)
-rare steal from carbuncle
-steal from Fury (he's right there in Dimension Tower, isnt he?)
-one of Mellusion's form has it as a rare steal (most likely not)
-Wall Mage (i forget if he's an encounter we'll make or not though)
-or, you could just FLOAT before the battle and give Mix to a Ninja (w/ running shoes) and have him use Dragon Armor to give the Reflect status. i think that should be possible unless Catastroph always starts the battle off by attacking first.
-oh, and float is availible in Mirage, so dont get it in world 2. ill note these in the Walkthru... eventually.
ok, i kept a notebook during all of this. Blue Mages were used EXCEPT for the following:
-item Dupe trick
-Sandworm battle (Ninjas instead)
-Cannons/Sol Cannon (Ninjas again)
-Titan (Mediators w/Dragoon; should have been Samurai w/Dragoon)
-Byurbolos (Ninjas)
-upgrading in Val Castle (though i left Reina a Blue Mage to L5 Death and she ended up learning Blue and got halfway through to whatever the last filler ability of a Blue Mage is)
-Dragon Fang/Dark Matter; in either case, get the items against Red Dragon and Bone Dragon
-Carbuncle (i had Black Mages, but should've had Mystic Knights as Maza noted; and thats only if he's still needed)
-Twin Tania (Black Mages for BREAK)
my other N-Zone strats wont matter because those were just done to finish up and werent with good strats (as should be noted within the last 2 pages).
so Blue Mages were used a LOT. keep in mind, there was always a thief somewhere in the mix outside of Boss Battles to Dash/Flee.
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you dont actually have to learn BLUE, because you'll be Blue Mages most of the game (Twin Tania is the only one which immediately comes to mind). also, you'll have somewhat low levels and low HP... so speed would be a key to winning. that or manipulating a Pre-Empt each battle with the guns. of course, as always, im open to other suggestions there.
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not cancelling. if it gets rejected, so be it. ill work on a new version at some point (i found some new strats), going for Big Boss again (because at the hour mark, id only saved 4-5 minutes). i guess i could cancel, but then again, i might not even start on a new version.
oh, and i wouldnt expect major improvement at all. at most a minute or more, which is not even a dent in a movie of this length. if you haven't noticed, a great deal of its length comes from unavoidable cut scenes and such, while the game takes roughly 50-60 minutes by in game time.
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ok, i linked the glitch. not all things stolen are 255, as the FAQ of it explains (it depends on what type of thing is stolen... and it shoulda been called INFINITE ITEM, but im nit-picky). and i put up your carbuncle strat instead.
BTW, did anyone know about the significance of where you fight ExDeathSoul and its relation back to the first world? never even thought about it.
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added those things in. now the only reason to fight a Red Dragon is to get 99 Dragon Fangs (which goes over the limit, but is faster than individually getting the correct amount). considering the second MIAB has a hair ornament, get that instead.
the mixes you listed are useful. but i never had to use Dragon or Samson Power (we were at L13-15 if its for Halicarnaso). and Explosive... i had a Blue Mage Team w/ Mix on (well, i guess they could all be ninjas aside from Galuf).
and im not sure about Battle Mode myself. if it needs to be altered then ill make note of it. i thought it was done so you didnt have to wait for someone to scroll through the menu for other team members to perform actions.
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i was thinking of how those 2 compared back and forth. i made note of it in the BIG post i have (your strat is best, and there are monsters that you'll run into where you'll be able to steal Dragon Fangs; so its not a problem). Dark Shock may actually work, it just takes longer (it did w/ ExDeath).
Apprehender is a pain as well. Dark Shock may work as well, but that damn Wind Slash... Hide, maybe?
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EDIT3: BEATEN! dark shock took quite a while to pull off. im wondering about that spell now. anyhow, first that, then he got OLD'd, then Kiss of Blessing and Finally (DRUM ROLL PLEASE)... ex-death falls to the might of LEVEL 5 DEATH!
theres some rumbling afterwards, flashy light and finally the starfield that reads "In, the Beginning..." so refinements are needed (namely against Hali, since i think its just RARE that Dark Shock works on the higher up levels).
EDIT2: TWINTANIA... HAHAHA! you dont need coral rings, just running shoes. that w/ Bard's Hide. then, i sent someone out one by one (because he killed them off) until it said charging up for gigaflare! break and BOOM, thats all to that folks. hahaha. oh geez... that almost made me feel bad for that abomination
Dark Shock has been unsuccessful. the Leveling up seems optimal (aside from constantly dying since his attacks are so powerful). you can always teleport out and head to dragon valley and get such things (i have several times, but for different reasons). funny, i was just thinking with all that money you could get, to just go buy some MagiShurikens since Ninja's are so quick. damn that frog spell.
EDIT:took 14 magishurikens to do him in. they all did over 2000 damage (cant say the same for Fire3 w/Fire Rods). but that tallies 350000 gil. add in running shoes and coral rings, and its 750000. equipment? (black hood/circlet/black robe/black costume) and its 862000. not that getting the gil is hard. just note that every 191250 = another stealing ether from enemy battle.
oh, the battle went like this...
-7 magishuriken
-frog'd
-4 maiden's kisses
-more magishuriken
-dynamo
-more magishuriken
i wasnt keeping count, but 18/4 = 5 round. very fast though, i had running shoes on.
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oh, theres no movie file, just the save state.
the in game time is somewhere over 8 hours.
as far as using it, i dont know if the ROM and savestate name need to match up or not, but just F1 after opening the ROM. it should work.
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heh heh heh... this is pretty cool... and nifty to watch. if it could be one for all the current formats we have though, that would be better as truncated said, but i still like how this one works as well. keep up the progress.
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i thought your original was too good to be true, so im naturally blown away. i liked how you went down to NO HEALTH before adramelech (or however the translation reads in this game as opposed to others).
of course, im guess the next we'll see of this is in the submission queue, huh? heh heh.
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i just got some FDS error message at around 27000 frames in. what was that? it didnt affect the game. it looks nice thusfar. the outside areas could have used more movement (you sit still for a while, though im not so nitpicky cause i just end up FF'ing those parts in most movies of autoscrolling).
even if this doesnt get published, i think a music video of it played at 1600% would go well to something fast paced and upbeat (and be around 3 minutes long as well). doesnt have to sync up... hell, the cover song of "happy together" from freaky friday does well up until fortress 8.
nice movie still.
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ah... i miss read the post entirely. oops... well, good thing i didnt alter things TOO much during gameplay.
well, what about getting the black chocobo and going to Mua and then heading to the Pyramid?
im currently stuck on halicarnaso. i went through and brought some running shoes, but thats not the problem. the problem is, hes a physical guy, not a magician, which is why i kept running into problems in the first place. im gonna grab golem now to take away this problem. his damn frog attack still pisses me off though. so far, im using a summoner for that. i cant seem to get dark shock to work on him though.
i know the next 2 battles (well, thats the end of the game then) should be easy considering the strategies. im still not sure about hali though... but ive gained enough information to somewhat complete the walkthrough. just adding up the money should be the only difficult part. so i think im gonna put this on hold for a while.
ill provide my savestate, which should work. the translation i was using was one with an IPS patch... i cant even remember where i got it its been so long ago.
savestate
savestate-step right and battle halicarnaso, though you dont really stand a chance. i went and cheated to gain some money to make up for a missing hairpin (theres 4, sorry, i was rushing). the shurikens are there for test purposes. most of the game has been completed, just halicarnaso/twin tania/ex-death remaining. dont mind the time, i had errors where i had to back track or turbo through cutscenes. its not accurate is what im trying to get at.
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not to meaningfully revive an old topic or anything, but i know we had this and ive been at vgmaps lately...
anyone heard of Mega Man Solid X: Guns of the Mavericks? they have the maps there. i was wondering if (when it becomes more public, assuming this isnt a hoax because im too tired to look if it is or not) it looked interesting for a speedrun. most people here love Mega Man (or thats the general consensus im getting all the time), and this is pretty much a crossover of that to MGS (which im a huge fan of).
i know, premature, you should post elsewhere, etc. but the maps all ive seen of it so far. anyhow, ill leave it at that. check it out at vgmaps.com (i think direct linking doesnt work so well).
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EDIT 3: eh, i didnt run into any monster who had level 2 old in barrier tower. by freaky coincidence, the # of battles before opening a chest MIAB affected the MIAB (i almost crapped myself when i saw those Yellow Dragons... but i shoulda captured instead of reloading... dag nabbit!).
and as far as effectively killing the Red Dragon, hes undead, so level 5 doom and doom potions do nothing. Ice Rods do a little damage, and i could even wait out using MIX until hes L3'd himself enough. theres 2 encounters... one for the blood sword and another for the hair ornament.
EDIT2: well, the red dragon will only cast on himself, so i need wall. so i can mix one up w/ dragon fang and phoenix down. now, how do i kill him efficently (i might use this instead of a wall knight for level 2 old as well, since im at level 12 for all but Faris or Galuf).
EDIT: i was thinking of something for the Tree Segments. ill take Dark Matters along as well, because im not sure if they will auto counter with a powerful spell when Death Claw connects or if its the moment of death. in any case, this was always a pivotal moment when playing the game normally, so im all wired up for it (not to mention the all consuming black hole that is Atomos!).
ORIGINAL POST:samurai goroh wrote:
- Well, if you're going to use Jump, maybe some spears (though you'll use it for the 1st time to "hide" from Titan's Attack...)
- Maybe some shields to raise Defense & Evade...
- If you're going to use GP Toss, then steal useful weapons to equip & sell the rest...
BTW, do you think that buying the expensive rings worth? I think they gave you good magic defense, so that might come handly...
jump is used once against titan and thats it. GilToss did about as much damage then against him as a Sand Bear did. you mentioning Hide made me think of (instead of Dragoon Jump) to use a Bard's Hide; but that requires ABP.
the coral ring could be used for Twin Tania definitely (he does Tidal Wave at one point). besides, i could just take time in world 1 and gain a bunch of money via the ethers (200,000 gil...*drools*).
samurai goroh wrote:
Mmm, if you have a Thief to dash, you can use the flee ability... If I'm not mistaken Faris will be the fastest, so she might be best for Thief... (Though I guess that's what you're doing, right?)
Just curious, why did you needed to go to Worus Basement? Was it only for money or for also for getting the Elf's Cloak...?
BTW, if you need help, you can also try asking on GameFAQs FFV forum. There are several people that knows really good this game... (Like all the questions that are still unanswered...)
Also, if you wanna test some fights (or avoid them), here are some codes (though I know that you can't use them for the run :P)
7E0B5600 No Battles
7E0B5601 Instant Battles
Worus Basement was mainly for the money (much like Bocos movie demonstrated... for getting Ice Rods). i forgot the pot on the far left (but i havent had much trouble with that).
as far as Flee, Faris just KEPT dying, so i had to revive her over and over and she never got ABP (well, she did a few times, but not enough to learn Flee). and i was thinking of using Reina instead, because im planning on skipping her in the third world. but Faris is almost always first to attack, so i can see that being useful.
ive been stopping by the forum as of late as well to see if anything was answered. ill prolly end up making my own topic and getting chewed out because of it, but oh well.
as far as findings go, i dont think you can change the next battle in a dungeon at all. the only thing you can do is manipulate pre-empt and back attack (which is done by waiting, but i havent tested how long).
as well, the battles seem somewhat pre-determined. like, i went to sand tides, fought a sand killer so i reloaded the state. i left tides, came back and then fought the same enemies. i forgot to test if avoid battles on the world map would affect this or not.
also, i fought some statues in Val Basement to gain some ABP for MIX and CONTROL. it went quite well until i ran into a streak of 4 ABP fights, which ate up 20 minutes. and ive run into some funny things with Gilgamesh.
in the first fight as Galuf, i noted in the Walkthrough what basically happens and it is just that drop dead funny.
on Zeza's Ship, he dies from a doom potion and then calls Enkidoh who doesnt show:
React:Death & Alone{
No Interrupt{
Display Text: Gilgamesh: Enkidou!
Display Text: I'll leave the rest to you!
Reverse Polarity
Display Text: Enkidou...
Display Text: Hey, don't leave me!!
this guys a riot, and id have never known that conversation even exsisted.
but i have some unfortunate news. i got a job (well, good for my financial fix, but bad for helping more on the walkthrough of this game). so... yeah... im not gonna have as much time to devote to it here in a few days. so ill try and finish it and HOPEFULLY someone can use it to do a full run of the game.
oh, and i know its April 1st as well (i was reminded of this early in the morning by both Phil and Bisqwit's respective vids), but im not joking about my job (at least i dont think any potential employer would be so cruel... would they?). i was planning on making maps of the game at some point as well now that i know about the screen shot feature (i had to throw that in there).
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FractalFusion wrote:
Personally, I would avoid making movies for NES games that don't have movies. All the best ones have already been taken and the bad ones remain. There are many good GBA games so you might like to give GBA a try. Or you could try SNES.
i still think there are some good NES games to be done. id suggest looking into GENs as well for games specifically made for or only appearing there (because people seem to like SNES versions a lot more for various reasons).
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DonamerDragon wrote:
Dacicus wrote:
You're saying it's horrible that he got through it so quickly?
If this game is successfully beaten, well so far you seem to be the only one that can see it. If it gets published well then I retract my comments and appologize. But if not well...I meant every word of it then. :P
Bag Mentioned you need 0.98.16 to view it. perhaps Phil is from the future?
ok, that was bad, but i couldnt pass it up with my girlfriend shoving that damn show along with anything else disney down my throat